[esalaka]

How the hell did you guys manage to write all these pages when I was away for a single weekend.

I mean, seriously. Has there been content or something?

Edited:

Also I guess I need to get some content here myself. This'll take a few hours I guess...

HOW DID THIS EVER BECOME PAGEKING :|

[Night-Eagle]

BlkDucky posted:

Not sure why it's such a big deal.

Are you saying you prefer

    public boolean renderBlockByRenderType(Block block, int i, int j, int k)
    {
        int l = block.getRenderType();
        block.setBlockBoundsBasedOnState(blockAccess, i, j, k);
        if(l == 0)
        {
            return renderStandardBlock(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 4)
        {
            return renderBlockFluids(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 13)
        {
            return renderBlockCactus(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 1)
        {
            return renderBlockReed(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 6)
        {
            return renderBlockCrops(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 2)
        {
            return renderBlockTorch(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 3)
        {
            return renderBlockFire(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 5)
        {
            return renderBlockRedstoneWire(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 8)
        {
            return renderBlockLadder(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 7)
        {
            return renderBlockDoor(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 9)
        {
            return renderBlockMinecartTrack(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 10)
        {
            return renderBlockStairs(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 11)
        {
            return renderBlockFence(block, i, j, k);
        }
        if(l == 12)
        {
            return renderBlockLever(block, i, j, k);
        } else
        {
            return false;
        }
    }

over

    public boolean renderBlockByRenderType(Block block, int i, int j, int k)
    {
        int l = block.getRenderType();
        block.setBlockBoundsBasedOnState(blockAccess, i, j, k);
        
        switch (l)
        {
        case 0:
            return renderStandardBlock(block, i, j, k);
        case 4:
            return renderBlockFluids(block, i, j, k);
        case 13:
            return renderBlockCactus(block, i, j, k);
        case 1:
            return renderBlockReed(block, i, j, k);
        case 6:
            return renderBlockCrops(block, i, j, k);
        case 2:
            return renderBlockTorch(block, i, j, k);
        case 3:
            return renderBlockFire(block, i, j, k);
        case 5:
            return renderBlockRedstoneWire(block, i, j, k);
        case 8:
            return renderBlockLadder(block, i, j, k);
        case 7:
            return renderBlockDoor(block, i, j, k);
        case 9:
            return renderBlockMinecartTrack(block, i, j, k);
        case 10:
            return renderBlockStairs(block, i, j, k);
        case 11:
            return renderBlockFence(block, i, j, k);
        case 12:
            return renderBlockLever(block, i, j, k);
        default:
            return false;
        }
    }

?

The obfuscator didn't do it because there are intact switches in some of the code.
If you wish to further complain about being offended by people being offended by Notch's code, please start a new thread. I think we're straying a little off-topic...

Content:
Loading textures from bitmaps is fun!

(Click to view uncropped)
I also added a static chunk array so I can start implementing tracelines. I'm performing the test by finding the major axis of the test normal (fancy way of saying finding the plane normal that lies closest to perpendicular to the test normal) then getting the intercept between the two nearest on-grid planes of that normal. Then, we test every relevant face for every (collide-able) block between those two points in that layer. This is fast because we index the blocks using a 1:1 hash function.

[Quark:]

garry posted:

Everyone that releases something could be accused of being a bad coder. Because they were too busy actually releasing stuff to obsess over the state of their code.

It doesn't matter that your 50 line program is awesomely coded because you're never gonna release it - you're going to recode it over and over again.. obsessing that your code is messy.

IMO I don't really care about how ugly the code is usually. If it works, it works; if it works well and fast, even better.

[Darwin226]

Night-Eagle posted:

stuff

Ok it's bugging me now. What are those things at the bottom?

[NorthernGate]

Personally I just need my code to look clean and nice to me, I don't use comments, that's my own thing, but I'd bet money that plenty of people would egg on it for being bad cod/ing practice. Who cares how notch codes, he's fine with it, no sense in getting annoyed at it.

[BlkDucky]

garry posted:

Everyone that releases something could be accused of being a bad coder. Because they were too busy actually releasing stuff to obsess over the state of their code.

It doesn't matter that your 50 line program is awesomely coded because you're never gonna release it - you're going to recode it over and over again.. obsessing that your code is messy.

This post convinced me not to rewrite my game for the third time. :buddy:

[robmaister12]

garry posted:

Everyone that releases something could be accused of being a bad coder. Because they were too busy actually releasing stuff to obsess over the state of their code.

It doesn't matter that your 50 line program is awesomely coded because you're never gonna release it - you're going to recode it over and over again.. obsessing that your code is messy.

Pretty much this. When I was working on my Android game, Cicruit Crawler, the code started off really nice and simple, then we wanted to add a bunch of stuff to it, and we realized it'll get really messy, but we had a deadline, so we just worked through it instead of redesigning and rewriting it, and now it's actually released on the Android market.

[sim642]

Night-Eagle posted:

Are you saying you prefer

    public boolean renderBlockByRenderType(Block block, int i, int j, int k)
    {
        int l = block.getRenderType();
        block.setBlockBoundsBasedOnState(blockAccess, i, j, k);
        if(l == 0)
        {
            return renderStandardBlock(block, i, j, k);
        }
...
            return renderBlockLever(block, i, j, k);
        } else
        {
            return false;
        }
    }

over

    public boolean renderBlockByRenderType(Block block, int i, int j, int k)
    {
        int l = block.getRenderType();
        block.setBlockBoundsBasedOnState(blockAccess, i, j, k);
        
        switch (l)
        {
        case 0:
            return renderStandardBlock(block, i, j, k);
...
        default:
            return false;
        }
    }

?

Some kind of associative array would be even nicer. Let's just end this notch's code quality discussion.

[neos300]

I don't understand.
My C++ program won't even enter main, it just sits at a console screen forever until I kill it.
The first line in main is a output to the console(static text) and still nothing happens.
And GDB won't start for me so no debugger for me.

Edited:

robmaister12 posted:

Pretty much this. When I was working on my Android game, Cicruit Crawler, the code started off really nice and simple, then we wanted to add a bunch of stuff to it, and we realized it'll get really messy, but we had a deadline, so we just worked through it instead of redesigning and rewriting it, and now it's actually released on the Android market.

I bought that :buddy:

[Asgard]

neos300 posted:

I don't understand.
My C++ program won't even enter main, it just sits at a console screen forever until I kill it.
The first line in main is a output to the console(static text) and still nothing happens.
And GDB won't start for me so no debugger for me.

Edited:



I bought that :buddy:

Can't really help without the code

[neos300]

eXiv2 posted:

Can't really help without the code

https://github.com/neos300/Bullwhip/tree/Corvette

Branch you want is corvette if you get lost, the problem is in either main.cpp, Game.cpp(specifically the init method) or SceneManager.h/.cpp

[Asgard]

Oh god

[vladh?]

garry posted:

Everyone that releases something could be accused of being a bad coder. Because they were too busy actually releasing stuff to obsess over the state of their code.

It doesn't matter that your 50 line program is awesomely coded because you're never gonna release it - you're going to recode it over and over again.. obsessing that your code is messy.

I think that people appreciate the fact that Notch has actually worked his ass off on Minecraft and released it. It's just that the finished product would have been a bit better had he been a little less sloppy. We can criticize his code while respecting his perseverance.

[coolguy13]

neos300 posted:

https://github.com/neos300/Bullwhip/tree/Corvette

Branch you want is corvette if you get lost, the problem is in either main.cpp, Game.cpp(specifically the init method) or SceneManager.h/.cpp

Look for global variables with non-trivial constructors

[neos300]

coolguy13 posted:

Look for global variables with non-trivial constructors

I assuming that you mean use global variables and not singletons.

Edited:

eXiv2 posted:

Oh god

I won't lie and say I'm a good programmer.

[coolguy13]

neos300 posted:

I assuming that you mean use global variables and not singletons.

No I mean that the only reason your code would hang before entering main() is if you have a global variable with a screwed up constructor

[Dlaor-guy]

NorthernGate posted:

Who cares how notch codes, he's fine with it, no sense in getting annoyed at it.

The problem here is that his code is so bad, it's actually affecting performance. And not just a little bit.

[coolguy13]

I see a lot of finger pointing at issues in notch's code but very few suggested solutions

[neos300]

coolguy13 posted:

No I mean that the only reason your code would hang before entering main() is if you have a global variable with a screwed up constructor

Oh okay, thanks null.

[coolguy13]

neos300 posted:

Oh okay, thanks null.

I was gonna look for global variables in your code but then I realized there's a lot of code lol and I'm not null, don't divert

[ShaunOfTheLive]

sim642 posted:

Some kind of associative array would be even nicer. Let's just end this notch's code quality discussion.

Yeah, if every function being called is using the same parameter list (block, i, j, k), that would be perfectly suited to an array of function pointers (assuming C++; I'm not sure what the Java or whatever equivalent would be).

[Night-Eagle]

Darwin226 posted:

Ok it's bugging me now. What are those things at the bottom?

Factoid: It is actually partially transparent and covers the entire screen. Verbosity aside: A little debugging aid.
From left to right:
green thing - deallocated texture space (console is rendered 1024 pixels wide by default, so it pushes the glyphs to the right) I draw green when I deallocate texture space so that it is obvious if I'm using deallocated texture space.
white specks - rasterized glyphs (letters)
transparent gap - I forget what this is supposed to be. I think it is a sketchpad for rendering text to before rendering it in the 3d world.
blue menu thingy - This is where the console is rendered to. It is only rendered every frame. You can see an old version of the console at full size here. I've made a few minor improvements to the console since that screenshot, though :D

It is just a 1/8th scale rendering of a single large texture that I draw lots of little things that don't deserve their own dedicated texture to.

Oh, and C(#,#) is the last non-zero relative cursor movement.
A(#,#) is not used. These are rendered directly to the frame buffer (not to the sketchpad texture thingy).

[DarkCybo7]

My game is piecing together slowly.

[Asgard]

Really good but the jump sound is annoying me already.

[neos300]

coolguy13 posted:

I was gonna look for global variables in your code but then I realized there's a lot of code lol and I'm not null, don't divert

Are you sure you aren't null?
I remember someone saying Hi null to you.

Also I've deleted all global/singleton except the ImageManager class, which I haven't touched (got the code snippet off of the internet) so I don't see how this doesn't work.

[DarkCybo7]

It's ok I'll just rip the jump sounds from portal 2

[deloc]

coolguy13 posted:

I see a lot of finger pointing at issues in notch's code but very few suggested solutions

hi null

[vladh?]

Have you guys seen this?

Woah, wtf, I just noticed the "Overv" folder. Small world, considering I found it in a completely unrelated place.

(User was permabanned for this post ("Alt of permabanned user" - SteveUK))

[deloc]

vladh? posted:

Have you guys seen this?

[list=1][*]yes.[*]get out vladh[/list]

[BlkDucky]

Yes. Overv made it for this thread.

[DevBug]

@ The guy who posted the link to the GUI toolkit.
Like all programmers I want to roll my own, and I want to use as little OpenGL as possible (for now).

@ Garry

garry posted:

Everyone that releases something could be accused of being a bad coder. Because they were too busy actually releasing stuff to obsess over the state of their code.

It doesn't matter that your 50 line program is awesomely coded because you're never gonna release it - you're going to recode it over and over again.. obsessing that your code is messy.

Yes, and some people can't handle the ugliness of their code so they remodel their bedroom.

[Irtimid]

Irtimid posted:

In experimenting with embedding Lua into things I've made a program that draws stuff according to an external script.

That post was supposed to have images, it should be fixed now.

Another script:

[Robber]

robmaister12 posted:

Pretty much this. When I was working on my Android game, Cicruit Crawler, the code started off really nice and simple, then we wanted to add a bunch of stuff to it, and we realized it'll get really messy, but we had a deadline, so we just worked through it instead of redesigning and rewriting it, and now it's actually released on the Android market.

I've had a very similar experience. As part of my holiday job we started working on a project for school for 4 weeks and only got about half of it done because we tried to do everything perfectly and since then nobody really had the motivation to do anything because we constantly had to redo parts of it because we didn't want to hack around some problems. Now we have to finish it until tomorrow and we got the whole remaining project done in no more than 3 days.
Sure the code doesn't have the same quality but it's working and we met the deadline easily.

[DrLuke]

Circuit board for the power electronics of my teslacoil.

[neos300]

I've come to the conclusion that it's not my code thats causing my program to die, it's SFML. Which is very odd, it worked before spring break.

I thought the DLL's might have been corrupted so I recopied them but that didn't do anything...

Edited:

It's happening in my other SFML projects too... even though I'm dynamic linking against DLL's in different places....

[Darwin226]

I wish all my bugs were magically fixed. I really want to start doing something fun with Kento but I'm slowly losing interest since every time I fix something, another thing breaks. :(

[neos300]

And even ones which I haven't built in a while.
Maybe the windows update broke everything?

[DrLuke]

Progress!

Added the z-diodes :smug:

[ZenX2]

I'm attempting to load weapons for TopWise from XML files.

So far, instead of firing, they stop time so only you can move. :wtc:

[iNova]

ZenX2 posted:

time so only can move

:wtc: