[Taepodong-2]

I'd still look at porn if I had a girlfriend, just not to the extent I do now.

[wallyroberto_2]

Fish Muffin posted:

also my doctor told me i have low testosterone (430 when its usually ~700 at 18 years old. 35 year old dudes have a t level of 400) so that probably factors into it.

this also makes me really chill, non confrontational, and i dont think with my penis.

So no "COME AT ME BRO" ?

[Year_of_Lurking]

more on topic: my CM040 comes tomorrow

[Dark Descent]

My brothers jg g36c and my WE 1911 meu come on the 12th

[masterchief6]

classic army/crosman MP5 with A&K mp5 drum mag.

A&K SVD dragunov with Ncstar 3-9x40 variable zoom scope with green illumination

[notrabies]

Oh, oh jeez. :(

[TheDon]

I probably should probably take my Springfield armory mil-dot scope off of my JG BAR-10. last thing i want is a bunch of shot out lenses. I want to sell it but nobody would want to buy it due to the price...

[ossumsauce]

masterchief6 posted:

classic army/crosman MP5 with A&K mp5 drum mag.

A&K SVD dragunov with Ncstar 3-9x40 variable zoom scope with green illumination

drum mag on a crosman MP5
Why
ncstar scope on a dragunov
:frog:

[masterchief6]

ossumsauce posted:

drum mag on a crosman MP5
Why
ncstar scope on a dragunov
:frog:

for the scope... i am sorry i know it looks wierd not having a PSO-1 scope on it, but i dont have the money for a 250$ scope, when i can one for 49.99$ and do the job, and for the mp5, well why not? My main goal wasn't to make it pretty, it was to make it look intimading

[ossumsauce]

masterchief6 posted:

for the scope... i am sorry i know it looks wierd not having a PSO-1 scope on it, but i dont have the money for a 250$ scope, when i can one for 49.99$ and do the job, and for the mp5, well why not? My main goal wasn't to make it pretty, it was to make it look intimading

Because MP5 high caps suck and it would be much more effective with 10 midcaps then one big drum mag, not to mention that nobody likes the sperg that sits at the back blatting off a drum mag.

[notrabies]

Its one thing not to spend money on a PSO, its another thing to mount that particular scope on there.
PSO's are rather stubby short range scopes at 4x magnification, like an ACOG or AR carry handle scope.

If I were you, I'd look for a smaller thinner scope. Also, don't get a cheap PSO clone, as they're always of terrible quality.
As you can see, my very similar scope looks great on my SR-25, but it would not look good at all on my SVD:



On the other hand, the drum mag just totally ruins that MP5. It looks bad, and I can't imagine why a drum mag would be of any use to you on a close range gun. Having a few cheap, nonclunky, always functional magazines seems much more valuable than a drum mag.

[masterchief6]

yeah i understand, that's your opinion, i have a 100rnd stick mag, il prob get more later, but i wanted a drum mag on it, and for scopes well i don't really care, it does it's job

[xXEnder007Xx]

TM 5-7 w/ Guarder Kit I just bought from my friend. Sorry for the shitty quality pics from my iPhone, can't find my DSLR right now.



Doubt you can see it well but it does have full trades.


I was also give 2 Dboys M203's for free. Could resist the urge to do this, now that I have 3 M203's. All mounted to my WE M4.


Last thing you want to see pointed at you.

[Fish Muffin]

yes

[masterchief6]

jesus... thats scary

[felix the cat]

Now rig up some sort of system so you can fire all three at once

[xXEnder007Xx]

Weight without any mags or grenades loaded feels about the same as my M249 Para, so around 15 pounds or so. Heavy, but doable with the right sling. Not a chance I'd ever bring this to the field.

felix the cat posted:

Now rig up some sort of system so you can fire all three at once

Paracord tied to all three triggers to a single cord sounds good to me. I'll try to make a video of this, I'm sure it will get many views and earn me money lol.

[Aznsniper911]

Tie a string to all the M203s so you can fire all of them at once.

[notrabies]

masterchief6 posted:

yeah i understand, that's your opinion, i have a 100rnd stick mag, il prob get more later, but i wanted a drum mag on it, and for scopes well i don't really care, it does it's job

Get a box of midcap magazines, they're a great deal, and no winding, no batteries, no problems. I use King Arms magazines in my MP5s.

Oh, I think the real thing that looks wrong to me about the SVD is how high up your side mount raises your scope, have you considered finding a shorter one? If you have to aim with goggles on, removing the cheek rest should allow you to use a lower height mount.

Also, while it is totally nothing more than my opinion, keep in mind that I also use an SVD and multiple MP5s, and I have a decade of airsoft under my belt, so there may be a bit of truth to it.

[BBOOBBYY!]

xXEnder007Xx posted:

I was also give 2 Dboys M203's for free. Could resist the urge to do this, now that I have 3 M203's. All mounted to my WE M4.


Last thing you want to see pointed at you.

you did this man
you made it happen

[TheDon]

xXEnder007Xx posted:

I was also give 2 Dboys M203's for free. Could resist the urge to do this, now that I have 3 M203's. All mounted to my WE M4.


Last thing you want to see pointed at you.

I don't know about you guys, but does anyone else think this looks like an inflatable boat?

[dass]

I must say, that must look nice to use in a fight

[catbarf]

masterchief6 posted:

and for scopes well i don't really care, it does it's job

This guy has the right idea. Seriously, you guys are bitching because someone dared to put a non-PSO scope on a Russian gun? What the christ?

That said, the MP5 is a bit silly and likely cumbersome. And as a support gunner myself, it's always a little annoying when someone's gone and stuck a c-mag on a rifle or SMG and can rival my much heavier and more awkward MG.

[the_killer24]

catbarf posted:

That said, the MP5 is a bit silly and likely cumbersome. And as a support gunner myself, it's always a little annoying when someone's gone and stuck a c-mag on a rifle or SMG and can rival my much heavier and more awkward MG.

Honestly, as a support gunner, I feel like they don't equal a true MG in any way. Almost everyone I've seen with a drum in a normal gun plays airsoft like someone with a normal gun, except with a larger mag. Plus an aykay fordy seven u betta spotsnaz with a durm clipe isn't half as intimidating as a gigantic machine gun

[catbarf]

the_killer24 posted:

Honestly, as a support gunner, I feel like they don't equal a true MG in any way. Almost everyone I've seen with a drum in a normal gun plays airsoft like someone with a normal gun, except with a larger mag.

Well, that comes down to playstyle, not to equipment. In terms of performance, an M4 with a C-mag is pretty much the same as an actual support gun.

[FloaterTWO]

I think he has a point about the intimidation thing. People are more likely to think twice about advancing if there's an actual support weapon ahead, any gun with a Cmag doesn't have as much of a presence as something like an M60 or an M249.

[catbarf]

FloaterTWO posted:

I think he has a point about the intimidation thing. People are more likely to think twice about advancing if there's an actual support weapon ahead, any gun with a Cmag doesn't have as much of a presence as something like an M60 or an M249.

Actually, you're right. At my last game, my M60 was fairly mediocre, yet I still had guys on the other team come up to me after the round and talk about how scary it was hearing that thing chugging away from my bunker position. So perception is a big part of it, but that seems almost gimmicky and not worth 15lbs over a drum-fed M4.

[Timebomb575]

catbarf posted:

This guy has the right idea. Seriously, you guys are bitching because someone dared to put a non-PSO scope on a Russian gun? What the christ?

That scope in particular looks really REALLY terrible on that gun though.

Edited:

catbarf posted:

but that seems almost gimmicky and not worth 15lbs over a drum-fed M4.

People who think this are terrible and are part of why airsoft is becoming paintsoft.

Sure, you could strap a 5000 round box mag to your super high ROF/FPS M4 running an 11.1v LiPo with a tightbore and upgraded hopup that shoots 8 miles and has an nerf-firing M203 and a variable zoom scope. You could almost take on every role on the field with one gun.

But that doesn't change the fact that it makes you a huge cunt who ruins the experience for others.

[catbarf]

Timebomb575 posted:

That scope in particular looks really REALLY terrible on that gun though.

Why's that? It's a fairly generic-looking scope. I think it looks fine.

Timebomb575 posted:

People who think this are terrible and are part of why airsoft is becoming paintsoft.

Sure, you could strap a 5000 round box mag to your super high ROF/FPS M4 running an 11.1v LiPo with a tightbore and upgraded hopup that shoots 8 miles and has an nerf-firing M203 and a variable zoom scope. You could almost take on every role on the field with one gun.

But that doesn't change the fact that it makes you a huge cunt who ruins the experience for others.

Well, I agree. When you say 'people who think this', though, you're essentially railing against the perspective of practicality. That's what I'm saying: From a practical perspective, the intimidation factor is not enough to make a 25lb 4-foot-long support gun more practical than an M4 with a box magazine. There are factors beyond sheer practicality, which is why I have the M60 in the first place.

I don't think this is a sport that should be regulated with completely artificial limitations on equipment beyond safety concerns- even strafers have a place, like with your flamethrower. In your given example, it's pretty hard to get a gun with an absurd rate of fire AND the fps to make that scope and range really useful. Parts explode left and right even in low-fps-high-ROF setups, so it's pretty much one or the other. So really what you're looking at is an upgraded M4 with a scope and grenade launcher, which I don't think is beyond the realm of plausibility. Now, adding the box mag on top of that is stupid, but from a gameplay point of view it's not going to offer too much over a couple of hicaps anyways, even assuming it can keep up with the ROF of the gun.

[FloaterTWO]

There's now 2 M60s and one M249 at my field now. It's going to be real fun if they all show up, since they're all on the group of friends i'm in which is usually put together as one side

I can see a lot of the rentals cowering behind trees as those three fuck shit up in future.

[Fish Muffin]

catbarf posted:

Well, that comes down to playstyle, not to equipment. In terms of performance, an M4 with a C-mag is pretty much the same as an actual support gun.

What about an mk36e with a cmag?

[Timebomb575]

catbarf posted:

Well, I agree. When you say 'people who think this', though, you're essentially railing against the perspective of practicality. That's what I'm saying: From a practical perspective, the intimidation factor is not enough to make a 25lb 4-foot-long support gun more practical than an M4 with a box magazine.

From a practicality perspective, it also makes no sense to try and shoehorn an overly complicated airsoft gun mechanism into a realistic looking body. If we were being "practical" we would probably have some extremely ergonomic purpose built "thing" that would likely bear little resemblance to a real gun.

I don't think this is a sport that should be regulated with completely artificial limitations on equipment beyond safety concerns- even strafers have a place, like with your flamethrower.

Well yeah, but strafers have many other factors about them that balance them out from a gameplay standpoint with other weapons (Short range, gas consumption, requiring a large gas tank)

In your given example, it's pretty hard to get a gun with an absurd rate of fire AND the fps to make that scope and range really useful. Parts explode left and right even in low-fps-high-ROF setups, so it's pretty much one or the other.

Oh trust me, it can and has been done. When you get working with expensive upper level parts and guns its not even all that difficult. Fortunately (at least in my area) most of the players using such weapons tend to group up at a field I dont play at That's sometimes why I dont like scrims at BOA, most of the time one side gets creamed its because of poor tactics or what have you, but a good bunch of the time its the fact that most of the RRH guys have their guns tuned PERFECTLY and can just outgun you.

So really what you're looking at is an upgraded M4 with a scope and grenade launcher, which I don't think is beyond the realm of plausibility. Now, adding the box mag on top of that is stupid, but from a gameplay point of view it's not going to offer too much over a couple of hicaps anyways, even assuming it can keep up with the ROF of the gun.

You are of course assuming the player behind the gun isn't being a total ASS with the thing. You could theoretically just pound the shit out of someones cover and just walk towards them without letting off the trigger for a good 20 seconds or so and never even let them get their head up. Of course most people dont do that because its a shitty, spammy, unrealistic and unfun way to play.

To me, airsoft shouldn't have to be a competition of who can get their gun shooting better or who can throw the most ammo downrange. It should be about the skill of the players and how said players use the positives and negatives of their equipment to overcome. Thats not to say I dont like upgrades and such (snipers and DMRs absolutely need them), but would I approve of someone doing a high-rof setup on an M14? Probably not.





TLDR: Fuck practicality, fuck gun upgrades, real men kill people with their bare hands and/or preposterously impractical yet badass guns

[catbarf]

Fish Muffin posted:

What about an mk36e with a cmag?

That's where it starts getting iffy, because technically it's just a G36 with a C-mag. You could disallow it, but then to be consistent you'd have to disallow things like drums on Thompsons, Skorpions, and PPShs. But as far as performance, a makeshift MG36 like that will pretty much equal a heavier support gun. I guess I don't really understand what you're asking here.

[Fish Muffin]

What is your opinion of an MG36? IS it a true support gun, or a "rifle with a drum mag"

[Stupideye]

should I open it?

[felix the cat]

OPEN IT YOU FUCK!

[Stupideye]

(thumbed for size)
pew

Edited:

also I found out the hard way that Ender was right about the gun sometimes randomly firing when you put the mag in:

[felix the cat]

Mag dump video! DOO EEE NAOW

[Fish Muffin]

unngghhghghghgggg

[venom]

dat wood