[Vedicardi]

80s hardcore has much broader influence and more groove. NYHC got rid of most of that

Edited:

as well as many of the texas hardcore bands including DRI

[Vedicardi]

I could listen to this guy all day

[Veltar]

Have you seen his show? I've seen the first couple episoded, couldn't find the rest though

[sp00ks]

Leathermouth - Murder Was The Case They Gave Me

[Vedicardi]

Veltar posted:

Have you seen his show? I've seen the first couple episoded, couldn't find the rest though

I don't think it lasted very long, did it? I prefer the spoken word albums anyway

[Soviet Russia]

The Ghost of A Thousand is hardcore punk right?

[Vedicardi]

sorta math rock fused with hardcore punk

[Veltar]

Vedicardi posted:

I don't think it lasted very long, did it? I prefer the spoken word albums anyway

They made two seasons, but it got canceled afterwards. In the episodes I've seen, he interviewed Oliver Stone and Chuck D (Public Enemy). Interesting interviews, I must say.

[Jack_Thompson]

I don't know whether this thread is just for hardcore or if that's just what you guys are mostly talking about, but Against Me! is pretty danged amazing. In studio and live.

[UberWarri0r]

I think it's for all types of punk apart from Pop Punk and that kinda shit.

[Jack_Thompson]

Nothing's wrong with pop punk, just bad pop punk.

[En-Guage V2]

Vedicardi posted:

80s hardcore has much broader influence and more groove. NYHC got rid of most of that

Edited:

as well as many of the texas hardcore bands including DRI

To me, it seems that the most recent hardcore bands have followed a heavier approach

Meaning that, it's mainly really hard driving power chords and more of a chugging rhytmn to them

To me, I find that modern hardcore seems a little heavier and I like that, but I'm obviously not going to discount the 80s hardcore

I'm trying to see them both from different perspectives, but I'm going to explore all the best 20th century hardcore bands before going any further

No use building an opinion of all the modern stuff

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man I write responses in a sentence form

holy fuck why do I do this

[Soviet Russia]

If Rancid isn't punk then I have lost hope in humanity

not hardcore punk, but def. punk.

[Veltar]

Not every modern hardcore band are following heavier, the whole melodic hardcore scene (NOT a day to remember etc) are not that heavy in fact.

[UberWarri0r]

I'm just basically saying what is said at the top of the OP.

Well anyway some more music.

[Jack_Thompson]

Soviet Russia posted:

If Rancid isn't punk then I have lost hope in humanity

not hardcore punk, but def. punk.

Nobody ever said rancid wasn't punk.

dat Jim Carroll spoken part in Junkie Man :allears:

[En-Guage V2]

Veltar posted:

Not every modern hardcore band are following heavier, the whole melodic hardcore scene (NOT a day to remember etc) are not that heavy in fact.

I understand

[Soviet Russia]

Jack_Thompson posted:

Nobody ever said rancid wasn't punk.

dat Jim Carroll spoken part in Junkie Man :allears:

I just tend to say something is a genre when it's a comepletely different one.

One time I called Deadmau5 Drum and bass. But that was a LONG time ago.

[Veltar]

En-Guage V2 posted:

I understand

modern life is war - marshall town.

[Vedicardi]

Jack_Thompson posted:

Nothing's wrong with pop punk, just bad pop punk.

nope all pop punk sucks. the queers and the vandals etc are not pop punk

Edited:

Soviet Russia posted:

If Rancid isn't punk then I have lost hope in humanity

not hardcore punk, but def. punk.

melodic hardcore with ska punk influence. first record and 2000 record are my favorites. great basslines. out come the wolves is a bit overrated

Edited:

En-Guage V2 posted:

To me, it seems that the most recent hardcore bands have followed a heavier approach

Meaning that, it's mainly really hard driving power chords and more of a chugging rhytmn to them

To me, I find that modern hardcore seems a little heavier and I like that, but I'm obviously not going to discount the 80s hardcore

I'm trying to see them both from different perspectives, but I'm going to explore all the best 20th century hardcore bands before going any further

No use building an opinion of all the modern stuff

Edited:

man I write responses in a sentence form

holy fuck why do I do this

early NYHC/crossover thrash

and 90s NYHC

they disagree

[ThunderGod]

bad religion too melodic? great band.

[Veltar]

Singer's gonna teach a semester on a university, starting August.

[AvantGardePanda]

Would a discussion involving Refused count in this thread? Or is this primarily Hardcore Punk chat here?

[En-Guage V2]

I think I'm going to like this thread

[Veltar]

Not really hardcore, but any of you guys now Jawbreaker / Jets To Brazil. Great band, blake's the man.

[UberWarri0r]

AvantGardePanda posted:

Would a discussion involving Refused count in this thread? Or is this primarily Hardcore Punk chat here?

as I said before I'm pretty sure nearly anything punk related.

[Vedicardi]

ThunderGod posted:

bad religion too melodic? great band.

everything up to like 1991
against the grain and all that shit is so cheesy but you know whatever
gotta fucking love "how could hell be any worse?"

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UberWarri0r posted:

as I said before I'm pretty sure nearly anything punk related.

anything that isn't pop punk or rise against shit

[Elementality]

the word 'melodic hardcore' is the most horrible thing ever and that's why none of those bands should be related to hardcore. hardcore isn't meant to be melodic; i hate to sound cliche and cheesey but it's about politics, emotions, unity, morals etc, not about being melodic.

[Vedicardi]

pop punk is what you are thinking about. melodic just means more emphasis on melody in a way rather than pure shouting with no sense to it. think propagandhi

[En-Guage V2]

Elementality posted:

the word 'melodic hardcore' is the most horrible thing ever and that's why none of those bands should be related to hardcore. hardcore isn't meant to be melodic; i hate to sound cliche and cheesey but it's about politics, emotions, unity, morals etc, not about being melodic.

I think melodic hardcore is pretty cool, if you've got a problem with it then don't listen

[Jacam12SUX]

Was introduced to punk rock and hardcore when I was 11, back in 1995. First song I heard was Black Flag's Rise Above. And holy shit, did it change my life. Punk has influenced me into the person I am today. I wouldn't know about 80% of the shit I do now if it weren't for it.

[Phaaze]

I like poppunk.

[En-Guage V2]

You are a cancer on this thread

[ThunderGod]

Phaaze posted:

I like poppunk.

Make a thread then, you're not wanted here.

[dcalde78]

Casualties and Exploited up in this bitch

[Vedicardi]

ThunderGod posted:

Make a thread then, you're not wanted here.

yes git oot

[Eric95]

The worst part about hardcore is all the local bands with names like "Crying For Daisy" or "Cut my soul"

[Vedicardi]

they aren't hardcore

[Eric95]

Vedicardi posted:

they aren't hardcore

That's what all the posters say

[TheChantzGuy]

the only punk rock band i like is good charlotte




but my mom doesn't let me listen to them because they are too bad