1. Post #41
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    If we have to throw out the idea of a "slut" I suppose we also have to throw out the idea of a "prude".
    What?

    "Slut" is an insult. Are you saying we shouldn't acknowledge that women can have and enjoy sex, and that when they do we should label them with a derogatory term? I don't think you realize how offensive and sexist the term is.

    Edited:

    it doesn't matter if it was used or not. it's obvious what is implied
    Maybe. It's really just the fact that they only studied women for this.

    Edited:

    There are sluts in the world. The fact you take issue with people pointing this fact out is a personal problem that should be dealt with on your own time.
    What is your problem?
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  2. Post #42
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    Maybe. It's really just the fact that they only studied women for this.
    that's why I'm so upset. this study only serves to compound the idea that women should not be free sexually, while men are free to fuck everything in sight
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  3. Post #43

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    that's why I'm so upset. this study only serves to compound the idea that women should not be free sexually, while men are free to fuck everything in sight
    I think it's because "men can't be forced into sex" while women can, by feeling that they have to do it.

  4. Post #44
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    Dennab
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    If we have to throw out the idea of a "slut" I suppose we also have to throw out the idea of a "prude".
    what are the scare quotes even for?

  5. Post #45
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    I was wrong, Sanius was actually right here

    I'm a bad feminist today
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  6. Post #46
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    I was wrong, Sanius was actually right here

    I'm a bad feminist today
    sanius is usually right it's just everyone always bags on him because it's cool to do
    you're all slaves to the 16x16 icons
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  7. Post #47
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    whoa didn't see that coming

       sarcasm all the way   

  8. Post #48
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    you're all slaves to the 16x16 icons

    What are you talking about? Sanius gives people more boxes than a UPS employee.
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  9. Post #49
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    What are you talking about? Sanius gives people more boxes than a UPS employee.
    and he gets more boxes than glaber posting in a healthcare thread
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  10. Post #50
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    What?

    "Slut" is an insult. Are you saying we shouldn't acknowledge that women can have and enjoy sex, and that when they do we should label them with a derogatory term? I don't think you realize how offensive and sexist the term is.
    What I'm saying is if we throw out a nasty word for a woman who is very open about sexuality, we should then throw out a word for one who is NOT open about sexuality.

    We shouldn't say that if you wanna have sex well hey the sky's the limit... but if you don't want to, well you're just a fucking prude

    Edited:

    what are the scare quotes even for?
    We're discussing goddamn words, quotes are appropriate.

    edit:

    Oh well actually we were discussing ideas, but I was thinking in terms of words.
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  11. Post #51
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    What I'm saying is if we throw out a nasty word for a woman who is very open about sexuality, we should then throw out a word for one who is NOT open about sexuality.

    We shouldn't say that if you wanna have sex well hey the sky's the limit... but if you don't want to, well you're just a fucking prude

    Edited:



    We're discussing goddamn words, quotes are appropriate.
    that's not what prude means though???
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  12. Post #52
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    i never heard someone call a woman a prude for that reason

  13. Post #53
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    that's not what prude means though???
    They may be perceived as being more uncomfortable than most with sexuality, nudity, alcohol, drug use or mischief.
    It's more about the idea of a woman who is not wanting to have sex. If we're going to be completely OK as a society with what some people call sluttiness, then we should also be OK with not wanting to have sex. To fail to do so is hypocrisy, if we're thinking of open sexuality in terms of liberation

  14. Post #54
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    It's more about the idea of a woman who is not wanting to have sex. If we're going to be completely OK as a society with what some people call sluttiness, then we should also be OK with not wanting to have sex. To fail to do so is hypocrisy, if we're thinking of open sexuality in terms of liberation
    there's a difference between not wanting sex and being uncomfortable about sex. and it's not like prude in that context is even offensive whereas slut is offensive no matter what

  15. Post #55
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    If we're going to be completely OK as a society with what some people call sluttiness, then we should also be OK with not wanting to have sex.
    alright
    i don't think anyone really disagrees with that

  16. Post #56
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    there's a difference between not wanting sex and being uncomfortable about sex. and it's not like prude in that context is even offensive whereas slut is offensive no matter what
    I agree that there is a different in nastiness between the two words, but again this goes back to the idea that I said before. There is an idea behind a slut and an idea behind a prude... or if I must say it, a person who is not willing to have open sex.

    So what does "uncomfortable about sex" mean anyway then?

    Also when I think of the word "Prude" I think of the Old Prude from The Sims who would come up and slap you if you made out with your significant other in a public place.

    Edited:

    alright
    i don't think anyone really disagrees with that
    Do you think that as a society however, we are tolerant of not wanting to have sex?

    Note that "society" refers to more than your abstinence-only sex ed teachers and Catholic priests.
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  17. Post #57
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    What? Really?! Wow! I had no idea!

    This is also wrong tbh. There are girls who go through a slutty line and then settle down right.
    The opposite could happen to non-slutty girls aswell. I've seen both happening. Pretty princess girls that say dicks are messy and don't even think about guys then go to college and wake up naked and drunk in a random street.

  18. Post #58
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    Do you think that as a society however, we are tolerant of not wanting to have sex?
    which society

  19. Post #59
    Conservative Cunt who fucking loves piss
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    which society
    Well of course America is more conservative in the matter, but European countries too

  20. Post #60
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    It could actually be from multiple factors. Since it also mentions children out of marriage and a few other things.
    Women who have had sex earlier might tend to not have the best pick on male partners which often leads to certain issues later down the line.
    This is even more likely to be a cause with out of marriage children, as the mother is more like feeling a certain pressure to marry essentially anyone that's available and in turn often chooses a strongly incompatible partner.

    A further thing to keep in mind, women with children out of marriage tend to from lower areas of society - lower middle class or low class in most cases, one could probably find similar trends in early sex as well.

    And couples in these areas of society tend to be a lot less structurarly secure than upper class families.

    As a last thought - there's a possibility that a certain amount of those who have had sex early and often are very certain about their person and have taken a relatively male aproach to dating when one says it like that. Women like that are more likely to leave a relationship if the partner isn't what they wanted.

    While women who had sex later in life might not be as self certain and as a result tend to take up more bullshit before they decide to leave a relationship.
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  21. Post #61
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    the very idea of a woman being a "slut" is misogynistic. this study is offensive
    Wow, you are such a retard, get banned already

    (User was banned for this post ("Flaming, "get banned"" - Orkel))
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  22. Post #62
    Played it for the plot
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    "boys are never pressured into sex and don't experience any negative consequences."

    lol
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  23. Post #63
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    "boys are never pressured into sex and don't experience any negative consequences."

    lol
    Girls are more often pressured by boys to have sex than boys are by girls. Wouldn't you think?
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  24. Post #64
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    Interesting, but I thought this is common knowledge by now

  25. Post #65
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    Wow, you are such a retard, get banned already
    Oh stop.
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  26. Post #66
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    No, I'm tired of his fucking bullshit. He's a horrible poster that starts shitstorms in every fucking thread he posts in, not to mention that he's a freaking ALT OF A PERMABANNED USER.
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  27. Post #67
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    Flash news!

    Shit is likely to smell bad to most people!

    That about the level of this article, way, way above obvious-o-tron

  28. Post #68
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    What I'm saying is if we throw out a nasty word for a woman who is very open about sexuality, we should then throw out a word for one who is NOT open about sexuality.
    Is there a word that means prude but targeted specifically at women?

    Maybe spinster but that hasn't been used since the 70s

  29. Post #69
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    No, I'm tired of his fucking bullshit. He's a horrible poster that starts shitstorms in every fucking thread he posts in, not to mention that he's a freaking ALT OF A PERMABANNED USER.
    he's right though??? the concept of a slut is misogynistic???
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  30. Post #70
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    he's right though??? the concept of a slut is misogynistic???
    How?
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  31. Post #71
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    it doesn't matter if it was used or not. it's obvious what is implied
    Yes but that doesn't mean one should be so derogatory about it.
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  32. Post #72
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    Is there a word that means prude but targeted specifically at women?

    Maybe spinster but that hasn't been used since the 70s
    Is it really the fact that the word "slut" is women-only that makes it so bad?

  33. Post #73
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    well because a slut is a promiscuous woman right? and the word is derogatory because some people seem to think that women should all remain 'pure' and resist sexual temptation whereas men can generally fuck as much as they want and most the time are lauded for it rather than insulted. it's misogynistic to think that women shouldn't be allowed to enjoy sex and to have as much (or as little) as they want!

    Edited:

    Is it really the fact that the word "slut" is women-only that makes it so bad?
    it makes it worse than if it was used for men and women.
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  34. Post #74
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    Personally I disagree with the idea that the more partners a man's had the better. However my sexual orientation makes me not put this into consideration as much. It is hypocritical of many, correct.

    One notes that the whole idea of "Men should fuck as much as possible, women as little as possible" leads back to earlier times, biologically. Female animals of most species are selective of mates. Male animals just want to fuck whatever, e.g. male dogs go into frenzies upon smelling a bitch in heat.

  35. Post #75
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    well because a slut is a promiscuous woman right? and the word is derogatory because some people seem to think that women should all remain 'pure' and resist sexual temptation whereas men can generally fuck as much as they want and most the time are lauded for it rather than insulted. it's misogynistic to think that women shouldn't be allowed to enjoy sex and to have as much (or as little) as they want!
    Oh, I can see where you people are coming from now, and I agree, but this thread has nothing to do with misogyny apart from OP using the word "slut" in the thread title. The word wasn't used in the article itself, it was way more tolerant, so the study itself isn't really misogynistic, yet Sanius said it was, and that resulted in a long, pointless discussion, which Sanius is known to start.

  36. Post #76
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    Oh, I can see where you people are coming from now, and I agree, but this thread has nothing to do with misogyny apart from OP using the word "slut" in the thread title. The word wasn't used in the article itself, it was way more tolerant, so the study itself isn't really misogynistic, yet Sanius said it was.
    The word misogyny is thrown out a lot around here I've noticed, get used to it

  37. Post #77
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    Oh, I can see where you people are coming from now, and I agree, but this thread has nothing to do with misogyny apart from OP using the word "slut" in the thread title. The word wasn't used in the article itself, it was way more tolerant, so the study itself isn't really misogynistic, yet Sanius said it was, and that resulted in a long, pointless discussion, which Sanius is known to start.
    but the study itself only targets girls, so it's trying to make it look like girls having sex more is somehow a bad thing without looking at male teenage-sex to divorce ratios or whatever.

    Edited:

    Personally I disagree with the idea that the more partners a man's had the better. However my sexual orientation makes me not put this into consideration as much. It is hypocritical of many, correct.

    One notes that the whole idea of "Men should fuck as much as possible, women as little as possible" leads back to earlier times, biologically. Female animals of most species are selective of mates. Male animals just want to fuck whatever, e.g. male dogs go into frenzies upon smelling a bitch in heat.
    we aren't mindless animals that are slaves to our survival urges so that's no excuse.
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  38. Post #78
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    but the study itself only targets girls, so it's trying to make it look like girls having sex more is somehow a bad thing without looking at male teenage-sex to divorce ratios or whatever.
    That's because the point of the study is to study girls. It shouldn't be considered offensive to study a group of people.
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  39. Post #79
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    That's because the point of the study is to study girls. It shouldn't be considered offensive to study a group of people.
    Well I gotta admit that is a good point he had mate.

    Like if I studied rates of rape of white women among African Americans and that was the extent of my study, what does that say about me?

  40. Post #80
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    That's because the point of the study is to study girls. It shouldn't be considered offensive to study a group of people.
    well it seems like a stupid thing to just study girls? like, why do that when if they studied promiscuity in all teens and the effect that has on marriage in later life it would give them data that isn't worthless? that's why it seems to me like this study is a bit MISOGYNISTIC!!!!
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