[Clovis]

DSOTM is the true gateway album for Pink Floyd it gives you a nice example of their definitive sound, and while being awesome it's not downhill from there going on to other albums. Tbh it just gets you hyped up for the other many albums of Pink Floyd

[AK'z]

Pepin posted:

Dark Side of the Moon. I consider it to be the most accessible. To put it this way, the average person is more likely to get into DSOTM than they are to Animals. Wish You Were Here would also be a good place to start granted that you don't mind long songs that are very instrumental. I know someone is going to suggest Meddle, but I really wouldn't suggest that as a first album.

Yeah, it's better to "get to like" them before going onto more hard hitting stuff.

Animals is easy to absorb though.

[Elecbullet]

Pepin posted:

Dark Side of the Moon. I consider it to be the most accessible. To put it this way, the average person is more likely to get into DSOTM than they are to Animals. Wish You Were Here would also be a good place to start granted that you don't mind long songs that are very instrumental. I know someone is going to suggest Meddle, but I really wouldn't suggest that as a first album.

yes, I do agree: Animals is less really reflective of PF style prog rock as WYWH or DSOTM. Furthermore DSOTM is so extremely popular that he's most likely to own it.

[AK'z]

Clovis posted:

DSOTM is the true gateway album for Pink Floyd it gives you a nice example of their definitive sound, and while being awesome it's not downhill from there going on to other albums. Tbh it just gets you hyped up for the other many albums of Pink Floyd

Agreed.

[Pops]

Yur|ko posted:

I'd like to listen to Pink Floyd, but I have no idea where to start.

What would be a good album to listen to first?

Step 1: Obtain every PF studio album (live and compilations are optional)
Step 2: Listen in chronological order (I find it's the best way to really "experience" Pink Floyd)
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit

[AK'z]

Elecbullet posted:

yes, I do agree: Animals is less really reflective of PF style prog rock as WYWH or DSOTM. Furthermore DSOTM is so extremely popular that he's most likely to own it.

I thought Animals and Meddle were prog and WYWH and Moon were more "art rock"

[Elecbullet]

I dunno, Wikipedia has both WYWH and moon as simply "Progressive Rock".

Overall, however, I think the two albums would be the best introduction for a newcomer.




God I love Tubular Bells.

[AK'z]

Make your own definition of prog. Wiki is terrible at it.

[Hakita]

Technical, slightly psychedelic pretentiousness.

[AK'z]

So all prog is psychedelic and pretentious?
No.

ELP and Yes are pretentious, doesn't mean they were the most prog.

I think it's the way the music moves that we have to take into account.

[Hakita]

AK'z posted:

So all prog is psychedelic and pretentious?
No.

ELP and Yes are pretentious, doesn't mean they were the most prog.

I think it's the way the music moves that we have to take into account.

Sorry for making a joke.

[AK'z]

Pretentious hobo.

[Hakita]

AK'z posted:

Pretentious hobo.

Leave Ian Anderson out of this.

[Kyle v2]

According to my Dad, Prog is modern Classical music.

[AK'z]

Hakita posted:

Leave Ian Anderson out of this.

[Hakita]

AK'z posted:

[Kyle v2]

Did you know Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin gave Monty Python money so they could make The Holy Grail?

[TheIceman]

Awesome!

Edited:

Money well spent, seriously.

Why didn't they collab a song for the film :saddowns:

[Pepin]

Was it a donation or an investment? I'm guessing donation, but think that an investment would be plausible.

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AK'z posted:

Animals is easy to absorb though.

In what sense? Message wise, or musically? I can't see the album appealing to people who aren't use to long songs that are mostly instrumental. DSOTM strikes a good balance between vocals and music so that even if you aren't a big fan of more instrumental stuff, it is still tolerable. Maybe I'm mistaken in my perception about how a lot of people perceive music, because it seems to me that the average listener is most concerned with the vocals and don't like long parts without vocals. I think Animals is an easy listen to people who are already into more progressive music, but I can't imagine an average listener digesting it very well.

To be clear, I love instrumentals and long songs, but I'm trying to talk from the point of what I believe to be the average listener.

[OctopusGuy]

Hakita posted:

Leave Ian Anderson out of this.

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[Hakita]

OctopusGuy posted:

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[CoolCorky]

I was talking to a guy on the bus about Pink Floyd yesterday (I was wearing my Wall Live t-shirt and he asked me if I'd seen it)

He told me that apparently Floyd recorded most of their concerts (even dating back to the Barrett era) as a form of "insurance" for when they could no longer make albums, and that they're all being kept in a big vault at EMI. So we may be seeing a series of Floyd bootlegs very soon.

Also the guy I was talking to had been to every Floyd tour since 1977, he was a pretty cool guy.

[AK'z]

Pepin posted:

Was it a donation or an investment? I'm guessing donation, but think that an investment would be plausible.

Edited:



In what sense? Message wise, or musically? I can't see the album appealing to people who aren't use to long songs that are mostly instrumental. DSOTM strikes a good balance between vocals and music so that even if you aren't a big fan of more instrumental stuff, it is still tolerable. Maybe I'm mistaken in my perception about how a lot of people perceive music, because it seems to me that the average listener is most concerned with the vocals and don't like long parts without vocals. I think Animals is an easy listen to people who are already into more progressive music, but I can't imagine an average listener digesting it very well.

To be clear, I love instrumentals and long songs, but I'm trying to talk from the point of what I believe to be the average listener.

By average listener you mean a dullerd?

But I get you about the "not used to long songs"

However I don't see difficulty in putting on an album someone recommends wholeheartedly to you, if they don't want to hear it then don't force it.

[Pepin]

AK'z posted:

By average listener you mean a dullerd?

More someone who listens to mostly pop. I don't really despise pop music or its listeners, but with most pop there focus is on the voice and far less focus on the musical elements. You may consider these types of people stupid or musically inept, but I think they just have different tastes and many people don't want music that challenges them. I can make a comparison to a lot of TV shows that people love, yet in reality the shows aren't creative and that are rather two dimensional. The fact that people enjoy these shows doesn't bother me because not everyone wants to watch something that is more in depth and creative.

[Pedro the Fuzzy]

Kyle v2 posted:

Did you know Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin gave Monty Python money so they could make The Holy Grail?

And George Harrison invested heavily in other Python movies. He loved the Pythons.

[AK'z]

Pepin posted:

More someone who listens to mostly pop. I don't really despise pop music or its listeners, but with most pop there focus is on the voice and far less focus on the musical elements. You may consider these types of people stupid or musically inept, but I think they just have different tastes and many people don't want music that challenges them. I can make a comparison to a lot of TV shows that people love, yet in reality the shows aren't creative and that are rather two dimensional. The fact that people enjoy these shows doesn't bother me because not everyone wants to watch something that is more in depth and creative.

But you do want to admit that they're dullerds :-)

But in all realness, they aren't the type who look for the Floyd for discovering the style of music.

Although Wall does apply as pop music. Dark Side is not pop music at all, even "Money" I wouldn't regard as pop. Fair enough the riff is catchy but be realistic.

[killerteacup]

I hate it when people get all uppity about the music they listen to and it's a very Floyd fan thing to do

People who listen to modern pop music aren't stupid people, if you were to go to a party you wouldn't complain about the music they're playing because to do that you'd have to be a colossal dbag
like one of my friends refuses to dance at clubs if the dj isn't good enough despite the fact that everyone else is fine with dancing

[AK'z]

Any music I listen to with people, I enjoy if they do.

Rare do I see the same return, unless they're a good friend. :)

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killerteacup posted:

like one of my friends refuses to dance at clubs if the dj isn't good enough despite the fact that everyone else is fine with dancing

Wait just a second. Not everyone has to like dancing. Whole other ballpart.

[Quq]

Pedro the Fuzzy posted:

And George Harrison invested heavily in other Python movies. He loved the Pythons.

he appears in the Life of Brian briefly

[Pepin]

AK'z posted:

But you do want to admit that they're dullerds :-)

No because I can't judge people based on their music, and judging their musical tastes just feels like a way of comparison. I can certainly judge music, I do that all the time in the CC, but I don't think I can judge taste.

killerteacup posted:

People who listen to modern pop music aren't stupid people, if you were to go to a party you wouldn't complain about the music they're playing because to do that you'd have to be a colossal dbag
like one of my friends refuses to dance at clubs if the dj isn't good enough despite the fact that everyone else is fine with dancing

Not dancing is pretty weird, though I don't really find fault with complaining about the music provided you aren't a dick about it. Like negative thoughts about the music that others seem to enjoy should be kept to yourself or people you know. I felt a bit out of place at a party with lots of weird pop music while wearing a Master of Puppets shirt. It did encourage a few people to talk about how bad the music was with me because they somehow guessed I wouldn't be into in the music being played.

[killerteacup]

AK'z posted:

Any music I listen to with people, I enjoy if they do.

Rare do I see the same return, unless they're a good friend. :)

Edited:



Wait just a second. Not everyone has to like dancing. Whole other ballpart.

No, its okay if you dont dance because you don't like dancing, that's different

but it's not okay if you enjoy dancing, you're out clubbing and say "This music is not worthy for me to dance to" when all your friends are out there having a good time, it ruins the mood sooooo bad

Pepin posted:

No because I can't judge people based on their music, and judging their musical tastes just feels like a way of comparison. I can certainly judge music, I do that all the time in the CC, but I don't think I can judge taste.



Not dancing is pretty weird, though I don't really find fault with complaining about the music provided you aren't a dick about it. Like negative thoughts about the music that others seem to enjoy should be kept to yourself or people you know. I felt a bit out of place at a party with lots of weird pop music while wearing a Master of Puppets shirt. It did encourage a few people to talk about how bad the music was with me because they somehow guessed I wouldn't be into in the music being played.

Yeah it's fine to not like the music so long as you don't be a total dick about it

[Elecbullet]

Besides everyone knows PF makes the best dance music

[Pepin]

That's the album with the rerecording of Money. Not nearly as good in my opinion.

[Elecbullet]

yeah i know, I just saw an opportunity for a joke

[AK'z]

Pepin posted:

No because I can't judge people based on their music, and judging their musical tastes just feels like a way of comparison. I can certainly judge music, I do that all the time in the CC, but I don't think I can judge taste.



Not dancing is pretty weird, though I don't really find fault with complaining about the music provided you aren't a dick about it. Like negative thoughts about the music that others seem to enjoy should be kept to yourself or people you know. I felt a bit out of place at a party with lots of weird pop music while wearing a Master of Puppets shirt. It did encourage a few people to talk about how bad the music was with me because they somehow guessed I wouldn't be into in the music being played.

Not really getting you very well, seems you find pop music unattractive but don't put it into context with people's personalities.

Master of Puppets is Pop Metal :D

[Mr._N]

Pepin posted:

That's the album with the rerecording of Money. Not nearly as good in my opinion.

Still amazing that Gilmour played all the instruments in that rerecording, except for the saxophone. Which he now plays.

[killerteacup]

Red Sky at Night is one of the greatest sax pieces, Gilmour is great at sax

[Mr._N]

The long and expressive notes and passages he is most known for on the guitar transfers seamlessly to his sax playing.

[Kyle v2]

This dude just captured the Floyd sound perfectly.

[Mr._N]

Meh, when he bends, it seems like he can't quite get there, which is important if you want that 'sound.'