1. Post #41
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    Yes, but their "full" evaluation is basically benchmarks and a full evaluation of the phone and day to day use over multiple weeks.

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    If the GSII is definitively faster than okay man, either way Qualcomm is a big player in the market, seeing as how some GSII variants will have Qualcomm SoCs, they're going to have to release Krait sooner than later.
    Nothing has proven that a SGS II variant will use a qualcomm SoC. Also they aren't really a big player anymore. If it weren't for HTC their CPU branch would have died. Krait will be to an A9 what scorpion was to an A8. Then when the A15s roll around Qualcomm will be last place yet again. It's a cycle that is doomed to repeat.

  2. Post #42
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    Nothing has proven that a SGS II variant will use a qualcomm SoC. Also they aren't really a big player anymore. If it weren't for HTC their CPU branch would have died. Krait will be to an A9 what scorpion was to an A8. Then when the A15s roll around Qualcomm will be last place yet again. It's a cycle that is doomed to repeat.
    Well yes, but at some point it was said in these forums that the T-Mobile will run one or something. For some reason Samsung is also using Qualcomm chips.

    http://www.nordichardware.com/news/6...ortex-a15.html

    Also wait what? While it'll be interesting to see OMAP 5 and whatever Samsung has up their sleeve, I don't think we can rule out Qualcomm, they launched the first 1 GHz SoCs with Snapdragon, I think it's possible for them to bring out something competitive again.

  3. Post #43
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    Well yes, but at some point it was said in these forums that the T-Mobile will run one or something. For some reason Samsung is also using Qualcomm chips.

    http://www.nordichardware.com/news/6...ortex-a15.html

    Also wait what? While it'll be interesting to see OMAP 5 and whatever Samsung has up their sleeve, I don't think we can rule out Qualcomm, they launched the first 1 GHz SoCs with Snapdragon, I think it's possible for them to bring out something competitive again.
    I'd call it a false document. Qualcomm has said themselves that they feel no need to bring out a quad core chip. Yet that picture claims they're working on one right now? If it's legitimate then I'll happily pick up a Qualcomm device. But the facts show that anybody who has faith in them is kidding themselves when you consider the crap that Qualcomm has released so far.

  4. Post #44
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    Eh, right now I would believe that OMAP5 will be pretty sure, but Tegra 3 seems to be evaporating into the future. All I see on Samsung SoCs is that they might/will have 2 GHz dual core by next year.

    Perhaps Qualcomm isn't coming out with anything new and impressive, but I just believe there's a reasonable chance that they'll come out with something that is competitive with Cortex A15. Dual core SoCs have barely been reality for more than a few months, and I think it's still not quite reached maturity yet.

  5. Post #45
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    Eh, right now I would believe that OMAP5 will be pretty sure, but Tegra 3 seems to be evaporating into the future. All I see on Samsung SoCs is that they might/will have 2 GHz dual core by next year.

    Perhaps Qualcomm isn't coming out with anything new and impressive, but I just believe there's a reasonable chance that they'll come out with something that is competitive with Cortex A15. Dual core SoCs have barely been reality for more than a few months, and I think it's still not quite reached maturity yet.
    Oh it's quite possible. But I do not view myself as an optimist and as a result do not have much confidence in a company who has sat quietly in last place for over a year without any attempts to innovate or improve.

  6. Post #46
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    The new nexus is apparently coming out in a couple months. I have a feeling it will be very good.

  7. Post #47
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    The new nexus is apparently coming out in a couple months. I have a feeling it will be very good.
    I think everyone has a feeling you're right, except for Apple zealots.

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    Oh it's quite possible. But I do not view myself as an optimist and as a result do not have much confidence in a company who has sat quietly in last place for over a year without any attempts to innovate or improve.
    http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a...a-3-3-3-and-4/

    Semiaccurate is usually extremely good at finding sources/moles for stuff like this, and they're pretty well known for predicting a lot of things accurately (Apple going to ATI, etc).

    Maybe Krait isn't as bad as previously thought.

  8. Post #48
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    I would guess that the battery issue has something to do with the 3D components or the WiMax radio, because the Sensation is similar and gets good battery life for a smartphone.

    I'd imagine custom ROMs would fix it.
    basically, yeah. assuming you have the screen already at a brightness equal to what it uses when you switch over to 3D, which i'm guessing is the brightest, viewing a picture or watching a video in 3D will use about 1/3 more battery than it would in 2D, and again, when you turn the 3D on the brightness forces itself to what I can only assume is all the way up. and then 4G is a real battery suck if you're actually using it. I haven't gotten around to rooting just yet, haven't really had the time, but I'm pretty sure the mobile hotspot should also kill it rather quickly. If you just take it out and fuck with it for about a half hour 4 or 5 times throughout the day, say waiting in lines at disneyland, it should last fine if you know not to have everything turned on.

    Edited:

    said and done, however, the battery still does leave much to be desired. which is why i'll be ordering an extended battery shortly

  9. Post #49
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    basically, yeah. assuming you have the screen already at a brightness equal to what it uses when you switch over to 3D, which i'm guessing is the brightest, viewing a picture or watching a video in 3D will use about 1/3 more battery than it would in 2D, and again, when you turn the 3D on the brightness forces itself to what I can only assume is all the way up. and then 4G is a real battery suck if you're actually using it. I haven't gotten around to rooting just yet, haven't really had the time, but I'm pretty sure the mobile hotspot should also kill it rather quickly. If you just take it out and fuck with it for about a half hour 4 or 5 times throughout the day, say waiting in lines at disneyland, it should last fine if you know not to have everything turned on.

    Edited:

    said and done, however, the battery still does leave much to be desired. which is why i'll be ordering an extended battery shortly
    HTC for some reason just loves to put as small a battery as possible in their phones, and my suggestion is pretty much to never turn on 3D, only WiMax if the signal is at least 3 bars, and low brightness.

    Extended batteries are one of the few things that the EVO 3D can get that the Sensation doesn't that presents a reasonable upgrade. I'd love to get 3 days of solid usage out of my phone without charging, but I have a unibody DHD.

  10. Post #50
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    in my experience 1 bar of 4G isn't much faster than full bars of 3G, so I usually only have the 4G turned on when it's charging, in an area that gets at least 2 bars or when I'm driving and using it for pandora or navigation - which works great with the dock by the way. of course if i'm in an area that gets full bars and know i'm not going to use it for an hour or two i still turn 4G off i'm not dumb.

    sidenote - the unfortunate thing about the extended battery is there aren't really any cases or docks that will work well with it. provided, cases aren't really necessary since the only things they cover are already rubberized if not painted brushed aluminum. but the official docks are the best you can get but since they're formed to the device there's obviously no way to use one with an extended battery. then again this is why both my jobs have things like lockers and my car has compartments and so on and so forth

  11. Post #51
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    February 2011
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    Personally I'd recommend the HTC Sensation. Iíve had the phone for a few months, after upgrading form an old HTC magic, and I have absolutely no complaints at all. Aside from the fact is has a 1.2ghz dual-core processor (never thought Iíd see that in a phone) and has all the excellence of Android and HTC sense, I expected it to have a few drawbacks prior to getting it. One of my friends has a HTC desire Z and the battery life was terrible, barely even lasting a day. However, I was surprised to find that the Sensation actually seems to have very good battery life. I recall once putting it on charge after 3 and a half days on battery. Fair enough I hadnít used it very much, but with Wifi, network syncing and a decent screen brightness I still wouldnít have expected that. For someone who is used to just putting a phone on charge every night I am more than happy with it, and even with some Spotify, Angry birds and plenty of texting, it still holds up well. (Note we donít have 4G or anything in the UK so Iím not sure how that affects it).

    Another thing that surprised me about this phone is its build quality. I have clumsily knocked this thing about in the dark or after having a bit to drink and it doesnít have a scratch on it. Itís also incredibly light compared to the HTC desire at least, Iím not sure how it compares with other similar sized smart phones but considering the size of it you really donít notice it in your pocket at all.

    Iíve not tried many other smart phones at all recently so itíd be unfair to say ďherpa derp you canít buy anything betterĒ but Iíve honestly not found anything wrong with this phone and would have no reason at all to swap it for anything, and therefore would highly recommend it.

    Whatever you buy I guess is largely down to preference, as Iím sure many other smart phones do have similar specs and features, but whatever you do, buy an android.

    Edited:
    Heh, sorry for the essay. Nothing like writing a huge-ass letter to send you to sleep at 2AM.

  12. Post #52
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    It's a nice phone but it's about to have the shine taken off by the HTC Amaze, 720p screen and apparently the Mytouch 4G Slide camera.

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    Whoops, still qHD, but apparently 1.5 GHz and 1 GB of RAM.

    Edited:

    Really I'd wait until Krait is in HTC phones before I'd really consider buying them again.

  13. Post #53
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    HTC Evo 4G

  14. Post #54
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    Got the SGSII a week ago, and jesus christ it's one hell of a phone. If you get one I can absolutley guarantee you won't be dissapointed. I couldn't care less about the upcoming "S2 killers" - peformance is only one reason this phone is so great. Filled to the brim with features, Touchwhiz has all the functionality you could ever want, awesome screen, feels great in the hand.. my only beef with it for the moment is that the GPS takes quite a while to get a lock-on but it'll surely get patched within a few weeks.

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  15. Post #55
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    In general the only company that has phones with truly solid GPS is Motorola, their phones get like 7 foot accuracy and 1 second warm fixes, 15 second cold fixes, etc. HTC gets around 15-20 feet with similar lock-times but really their GPS is a bit hit and miss at times, and is model-dependent, some get fantastic accuracy and lock times on par with Motorola, others are near the average. Samsung's Galaxy S is notoriously bad, the GSII is quick with locks but is more like 30 foot accuracy on average, if XDA can be believed.

    If you want solid GPS your best option is a bluetooth GPS receiver, it reduces your phone battery drain and is probably as good as GPS gets short of differential GPS with all the various augmentation systems (WAAS, EGNOS, GPS information downloaded via cell data, etc etc), which will run a GPS system into the thousands of dollars range.

    Edited:

    I think HTC's 15 feet accuracy is more likely if you have a phone like the Desire HD where the antenna design for GPS is not the greatest, people quote the HTC Sensation as having around 9 feet accuracy.

  16. Post #56
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    Yeah, I did read up a bit on the GPS functionality in Samsung's phones, and it is apparently not so great. I will usually get a decent lock within one minute or so. Luckily I'm not in any way dependent on the GPS, only ever use it when I'm out running and want to check my speed.

  17. Post #57
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    Yeah, I did read up a bit on the GPS functionality in Samsung's phones, and it is apparently not so great. I will usually get a decent lock within one minute or so. Luckily I'm not in any way dependent on the GPS, only ever use it when I'm out running and want to check my speed.
    I just personally think the GPS they package with their phones aren't all that great, seems like their antenna connections aren't all that solid either (same issue with Desire HD).

    Edited:

    General warning about Samsung is that their GPS doesn't seem to really be all that great, but everything else should be good.

    Edited:

    I've seen a video of a Nexus S getting about 4-5 meter accuracy almost instantly and in general very solid performance, so I'm pretty sure Samsung is well and capable of making decent GPS.

  18. Post #58
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    Oh shit I'm in the wrong thread oops

  19. Post #59
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    Ugh, just saw a video of the GSII's GPS. It looks like it should have simply incredible accuracy and locktimes using Fasterfix, but instead no, it takes over a minute and a half for a cold fix and even then it starts out with 400 foot accuracy, somehow while having a signal strength that is usually unheard of in other smartphones that have genuinely good GPS. There's easily 6 satellites with strong GPS signal in view, yet no lock. 10 satellites in view, more than half are extremely good and unheard of for my Desire HD, yet still no lock. Disheartening.

    I don't get it, and I really wish that Samsung would make a solid GPS, it seems like they did it with the Nexus S, yet they can't do it in the GSII. -sigh-

    /rant end

  20. Post #60
    I remember when your phone was judged by its radical ringtones

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  21. Post #61
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    I remember when your phone was judged by its radical ringtones

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    Now it's judged by Quadrant scores