1. Post #281
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    Folstream's Avatar
    February 2007
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    i am using XP and i have ran Doom 2 with no problems if that helps.
    Natively? As in without DOSBox?

  2. Post #282
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    August 2008
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    Since I don't have any computer running XP currently, can anyone remind me how well legacy gaming worked on XP? AFAIK you could run DOS games like Doom natively on Win95 for example. Can you do this on XP? If not which was the latest Windows that supported this?
    That is largely due to x86/64 not the actual Windows version. XP x64 wasn't that popular compared to Windows 7 x64, so you notice the incompatibility more.

  3. Post #283
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    December 2009
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    Since I don't have any computer running XP currently, can anyone remind me how well legacy gaming worked on XP? AFAIK you could run DOS games like Doom natively on Win95 for example. Can you do this on XP? If not which was the latest Windows that supported this?
    Well Windows 95 was just a shell that ran on top of DOS. So all DOS compatibility was there.

    In Windows NT systems, I've encountered incompatibility issues since they prefer native DOS. Its not often, but it happens, usually with really old ones.

  4. Post #284
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    Natively? As in without DOSBox?
    Yes sir.
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  5. Post #285
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    August 2011
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    Without all the sh*tstorm about XP,
    I am working with nLite to make the perfect Windows XP install disc before it utterly dies.
    However, most of the topics are from 2008 which are using older programs..
    So what would be the best instal for XP? (please give me links and such )

    Another thing, mostly I am installing WinXP for my girlfriend. She has a pc which has only 1gb of ram. And a clearly bad videodriver..
    Is there a way if Win7 works on that kind of pc while still fast?

    Btw, before people are raging against me, I am using Win7 and I love it.
    But you got to admit it,
    When WinXP goes open 2014, a new era will begin and Windows 8 (9? Emerald? ∞?) shall be underrated against WinXP. I clearly see the possibilities when it happens.
    *insert typical Microsoft promises here*

    edit: Just saw something about Doom²
    i am using XP and i have ran Doom 2
    Natively? As in without DOSBox?
    Pssst, just use ZDoom or Skulltag :D
    And while you're at it, Brütal Doom *so much pixelated blood..*
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  6. Post #286
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    Is there a way if Win7 works on that kind of pc while still fast?
    http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1075739-Windows-Thin

  7. Post #287
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    August 2011
    54 Posts
    Windows XP is still a great choice for Low end PCs, Even Windows Thin isn't fast as XP, and it uses twice as much ram as XP in a clean install
    Did anyone tested this?

  8. Post #288
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    I wouldn't be linking to it if I didn't know how well it works

    I'm running it on a 900MHz, 1GB RAM netbook with an integrated graphics chip and the slowest SSD in the known universe.
    It's still faster than XP was
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  9. Post #289
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    August 2006
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    Make the best of both worlds, Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs. The XP version of Windows Thin.

    But for me WinThin was better and quicker than XP. The reason it uses more ram is because Windows Vista onwards scales used memory based on how much you have installed to make it quicker. Not to mention it'll scale back if a program needs a lot of RAM so the amount it uses by default is irrelevant.
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  10. Post #290
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    August 2011
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    Well, like I said before, I want to know what would be better to install on a pc with 1gb of ram and 215 (could be a little more or less) of gpu..
    It uses a hard disk of 5600 rpm with 100gb.
    It is for my girlfriend who mostly only goes online with it on MSN / WLM and seeing youtube videos.

    Btw, she still likes using the *old* MSN program instead of the new WLM interface.
    Don't know how much more ram it uses then msn :/

  11. Post #291
    Dennab
    October 2009
    2,552 Posts
    My old ass laptop runs XP, should i install windows 8 dev preview on it? it's free. Or Windows 7?

  12. Post #292
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    May 2011
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    My old ass laptop runs XP, should i install windows 8 dev preview on it? it's free. Or Windows 7?
    Specs of Laptop?

  13. Post #293
    Dennab
    October 2009
    2,552 Posts
    Specs of Laptop?
    Dell D610

    1.6GHz Intel Pentium
    Integrated Graphics
    512MB RAM
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  14. Post #294
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    December 2009
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    Dell D610

    1.6GHz Intel Pentium
    Integrated Graphics
    512MB RAM
    I'm sure it would benefit greatly with an upgrade to 1 GB. But its probably still doable.

  15. Post #295
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    Dennab
    April 2008
    4,831 Posts
    Windows XP is ancient, Mac II is where it's at.
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  16. Post #296
    Dennab
    October 2009
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    i fucks with xp
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  17. Post #297
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    October 2006
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    Bastard. My XP installation started fucking up a few days ago ( couldn't use anything on control panel due to some rundll32 error thing ). Because my computer is an HP Media Centre it's got all the windows installation files tucked away in a recovery drive so to fix it all I needed to do was use a disc to basically initate the whole "copy everything from the recovery drive to my main drive".
    Instead of fixing the thing , it made the computer unable to boot into windows.
    I thought now was the time to upgrade to windows 7 and chose the "non destructive installation" method.


    Non destructive my ass. my entire program files folder is gone , along with photoshop , reason, all my .psd's of my half life textures , the ENTIRETY OF STEAM.
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  18. Post #298
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    April 2007
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    So you installed an OS 2 generations newer over shitty hp customisations and were then surprised when it fucked up?

    You should have made BACKUPS.

  19. Post #299
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    I thought now was the time to upgrade to windows 7 and chose the "non destructive installation" method.
    What method is that?

  20. Post #300
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    The one which isn't really supported when you install 7 over XP.
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  21. Post #301
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    September 2011
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    I just manually delete the Windows folder from a linux live disc, and then move everything important to the root of the C:\ drive. (Some Program Files apps, Steam folder, etc...) I then reinstall Windows, and put things back where they belong. Non destructive without a backup. This method has worked for me for years, but i need to invest in a 2TB eSATA for backups...

  22. Post #302
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    August 2006
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    I just manually delete the Windows folder from a linux live disc, and then move everything important to the root of the C:\ drive. (Some Program Files apps, Steam folder, etc...) I then reinstall Windows, and put things back where they belong. Non destructive without a backup. This method has worked for me for years, but i need to invest in a 2TB eSATA for backups...
    If you install Windows without formatting it just moves everything into C:\Windows.old, seems like less of a hassle to go through.

  23. Post #303
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    September 2011
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    If you install Windows without formatting it just moves everything into C:\Windows.old, seems like less of a hassle to go through.

    Well leaving things in Windows.old to sort later always auto-deletes my stuff before i get a chance to sort through things, so no thanks.

  24. Post #304
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    August 2006
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    Well leaving things in Windows.old to sort later always auto-deletes my stuff before i get a chance to sort through things, so no thanks.
    Not once on any of several machines on vista, 7, or 8 has it ever deleted anything.
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  25. Post #305
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    September 2011
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    Not once on any of several machines on vista, 7, or 8 has it ever deleted anything.
    Lucky you. Mine always gets deleted after just a reboot or two. :/ After one reboot, i suddenly gained a HUGE chunk of HDD space, and I looked in my Windows.old folder, and everything I was saving to move later was gone. Nobody else in my house knows my BIOS boot password, nor my Windows password, OR the fact that I have to (strangely) open my empty DVD burner before my system will POST... so it's not like anyone else in my house deleted things on my PC. :/
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  26. Post #306
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    August 2009
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    I'm on Windows XP on my dad's laptop right now. It works for a laptop that isn't doing anything super serious. Just browsing and Photoshop.

    I mean, when I get my own computer it will be Windows 7 so I can have more compatibility with all the stuff I want and all the nice features Windows 7 provides.

  27. Post #307
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    July 2011
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    Windows XP represent!
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  28. Post #308
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    September 2011
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    Netbooks with 1GB of RAM or less really benefit from Windows XP over 7 in terms of raw speed. Windows 7 gives my brother's girlfriend horrible FPS in WoW, but XP runs smooth as ever, probably because it's XP-era hardware and has proper drivers for it.
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  29. Post #309
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    Netbooks with 1GB of RAM or less really benefit from Windows XP over 7 in terms of raw speed. Windows 7 gives my brother's girlfriend horrible FPS in WoW, but XP runs smooth as ever, probably because it's XP-era hardware and has proper drivers for it.
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  30. Post #310
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    August 2009
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    RE: Doom 2. It'll run, but you'll have no sound, same with a lot of DOS games. There's ways to fix this without resorting to DOSBox IIRC, but the latter is a much simpler way to do so.

    I recommend Chocolate Doom if you want to run Doom in Windows, but still want the classic feel.

    (I'm a Doom nerd, so sue me)

  31. Post #311
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    August 2011
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    I recommend Chocolate Doom if you want to run Doom in Windows, but still want the classic feel.
    I'm a Doom nerd
    If you are a really Doom nerd (me too btw xD), you should check out Skulltag.
    A sourceport based on ZDoom, which has completly new features and multiplayer.
    And not only should you check Skulltag, but also Brütal Doom.
    In short terms, this mod let's you headshot monsters, preform fatalities on them (and they can on you D:) but the best thing yet..
    You won't have enough room for the blood >:]
    Basicly, this..

  32. Post #312
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    August 2009
    673 Posts
    If you are a really Doom nerd (me too btw xD), you should check out Skulltag.
    A sourceport based on ZDoom, which has completly new features and multiplayer.
    And not only should you check Skulltag, but also Brütal Doom.
    In short terms, this mod let's you headshot monsters, preform fatalities on them (and they can on you D:) but the best thing yet..
    You won't have enough room for the blood >:]
    Basicly, this..
    I already know about, and have played all of those things. <3 Brutal Doom.

    We're off topic, though.
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  33. Post #313
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    June 2009
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    This is the only thing I miss about Windows XP:

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  34. Post #314
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    This one was better.

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  35. Post #315
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    This one was better.

    Longhorn beta?
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  36. Post #316
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    Longhorn beta?
    Right after the reset. Build 5001.
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  37. Post #317
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    December 2009
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    Right after the reset. Build 5001.
    Oh wow. I thought it was just some clever joke.

    I guess you learn something new everyday.

  38. Post #318
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    March 2009
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    the only reason I would have to use XP is if I had a crappy computer.

    But I don't have a crappy computer so I don't use a 10 year old OS.
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  39. Post #319
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    April 2008
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    Netbooks with 1GB of RAM or less really benefit from Windows XP over 7 in terms of raw speed. Windows 7 gives my brother's girlfriend horrible FPS in WoW, but XP runs smooth as ever, probably because it's XP-era hardware and has proper drivers for it.
    Using a netbook for gaming
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  40. Post #320
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    the only reason I would have to use XP is if I had a crappy computer.

    But I don't have a crappy computer so I don't use a 10 year old OS.
    Most of you guys saying this don't realize it's a really really bad argument if you actually know what you are talking about, right?
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