View Poll Results: Should we legalize Organ donation for inmates on death row?

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  • Yes

    74 89.16%
  • No

    9 10.84%
  1. Post #1
    Herpetologist
    imptastick's Avatar
    June 2010
    5,148 Posts
    Organ donation as a method of death penalty?

    I am for it, in fact i have started a petition for it here.

    [release]We should allow legal organ donation by inmates on death row; and make it a form of death penalty for criminals who agree to this method and are medically able to donate organs. Our current death penalty does not allow inmates on death row to donate organs. I believe that organ donation should be a form of death penalty. Even individuals who are against the death penalty should realize that this would be a better alternative to our current methods.

    Benefits to death by organ donation include:

    1. Humane- With this method the individual would be put under anesthesia prior to the operation. The individual would feel no pain in their passing.

    2. Organs save lives- The organs donated could be used to save lives. There are many people on transplant lists who may never find a donor. A single organ donor can save eight lives.*

    3. Save tax Dollars- Insurance companies and the organ recipient pay for organ donations, this could save tax payers money that is currently used on expensive death penalty methods.

    Organ donation as a method of execution would be more humane and cost effective than our current methods. We have the opportunity to save innocent lives.





    *http://www.organdonor.gov/why.asp[/release]

    If you are against it please discus your reasoning.

  2. Post #2
    Snorlax's Avatar
    September 2010
    370 Posts
    The only problem I could see are the conditions of the organs after they are killed, because I do not know how usable the organs are after a lethal injection of whatever they use to kill the prisoners.

  3. Post #3
    Herpetologist
    imptastick's Avatar
    June 2010
    5,148 Posts
    The only problem I could see are the conditions of the organs after they are killed, because I do not know how usable the organs are after a lethal injection of whatever they use to kill the prisoners.
    In this method the inmate would be put to sleep with standard surgical anesthesia, then the organs would be removed. Basically they would die in their sleep without damaging the organs

  4. Post #4
    wallyroberto_2's Avatar
    August 2011
    2,291 Posts
    Don't they use a neurotoxin so they stop feeling pain almost right away?

    Edited:

    Nevermind, what stick suggested makes infinitely more sense

  5. Post #5
    Gekkosan's Avatar
    October 2010
    5,668 Posts
    Guess they wouldn't really care after they are dead.

    And they do try some.. products on the dead deathrow inmates. So I've heard anyway.

  6. Post #6
    Most inmates use harder drugs. Not such a good idea.

  7. Post #7
    Herpetologist
    imptastick's Avatar
    June 2010
    5,148 Posts
    Most inmates use harder drugs. Not such a good idea.
    donation would have to be approved by a doctor, like regular organ donation, to make sure donated organs are healthy

  8. Post #8
    Who's going to pay those doctors?

  9. Post #9

    March 2010
    147 Posts
    Who's going to pay those doctors?
    doctors are already paid by the company they work for

  10. Post #10
    Gold Member
    Van-man's Avatar
    August 2009
    15,159 Posts
    Who's going to pay those doctors?
    Who's gonna pay to have organs fabricated with technology we don't have yet?

    It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of saving lives.

  11. Post #11
    Gold Member
    GodKing's Avatar
    July 2007
    6,098 Posts
    Most inmates use harder drugs. Not such a good idea.
    Source?

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  13. Post #13
    Herpetologist
    imptastick's Avatar
    June 2010
    5,148 Posts
    Who's going to pay those doctors?
    like with modern donation, all medical cost is covered by the receiver and their insurance

  14. Post #14
    Gekkosan's Avatar
    October 2010
    5,668 Posts
    Source?
    You wouldn't need a source if you had browsed through enough of death row inmates' reports to see how many of them were down for a robbery-murder to score some crack.

  15. Post #15
    imasillypiggy's Avatar
    December 2009
    8,851 Posts
    I don't like the death penalty but if we are going to do it might as well put those organs to good use. My hope is that I will become an organ donor and when I die someone wants a brain transplant.

  16. Post #16
    "We should allow child labor overseas ...the sweatshop is what is saving the 9 year old worker"
    Pepin's Avatar
    April 2007
    6,864 Posts
    I am a bit unclear on this. Does the person on death row have to consent to this or not? Yes, the word "donation" is in there, but that doesn't make it any more clear because there have been similar arguments using the word donation that do not require consent. And with no clarification yet to

    Guess they wouldn't really care after they are dead.
    it seems to confirm that the death row person wouldn't have to consent. But I don't know this for sure. Can that be clarified and be put in the OP? There are two possible questions here: should people on the execution table be forced to be organ donors, and should be able to become organ donors? I would assume it would be the second, but without clarification I can't be sure.

  17. Post #17
    Herpetologist
    imptastick's Avatar
    June 2010
    5,148 Posts
    I am a bit unclear on this. Does the person on death row have to consent to this or not? Yes, the word "donation" is in there, but that doesn't make it any more clear because there have been similar arguments using the word donation that do not require consent. And with no clarification yet to



    It seems to confirm that the death row person wouldn't have to consent. But I don't know this for sure. Can that be clarified and be put in the OP, because they are two very different questions with two very different answers.
    Yes they would have to give consent, and if they give consent a doctor would decide if they are medically able to donate.

    Without consent fro the inmate, and approval by a doctor it could not take place

    updated more clear OP

  18. Post #18
    "We should allow child labor overseas ...the sweatshop is what is saving the 9 year old worker"
    Pepin's Avatar
    April 2007
    6,864 Posts
    In which case, it should of course be legal for people who are going to be put down to donate their organs. There isn't any logical reason to destroy perfectly good organs that they would be willing to give up to save lives.

    I think part of the reasoning against it could be that a bad person needs to be destroyed. Yet, what determines the actions of a person is not their body, rather the mind, and that is really the only entity that needs to be taken out. I can offer many analogies for this if needed.

    It's not like I support the death penalty, but as long as it is in place in certain areas, it would make sense to save some lives through allowing this.

  19. Post #19
    Herpetologist
    imptastick's Avatar
    June 2010
    5,148 Posts
    If you sign the petition let me know so I can add you to the FP signature list in the general discussion thread

  20. Post #20
    gman_seeman's Avatar
    December 2007
    57 Posts
    Under the condition that the inmate's tasty organs are in good, healthy conditions, then yes.

  21. Post #21
    Gold Member
    Kartoffel's Avatar
    April 2010
    4,334 Posts
    Sure, it's not like they're going to need them.

  22. Post #22
    cwook's Avatar
    March 2010
    1,478 Posts
    The arguments for death penalty via organ donation are completely sound and true, the problem is that people who oppose the death penalty oppose it simply for the fact of taking a human's life away. There is always the chance that the person was innocent.

  23. Post #23
    Gold Member
    HumanAbyss's Avatar
    March 2009
    17,940 Posts
    Criminals can already ask for their bodies to be donated to science if they so desire. It just takes a lawyer.
    I'd see little reason for them to not be allowed to do so if they have proper health.

  24. Post #24
    Herpetologist
    imptastick's Avatar
    June 2010
    5,148 Posts
    Criminals can already ask for their bodies to be donated to science if they so desire. It just takes a lawyer.
    But actual living organ donation to save lives is not curently allowed

  25. Post #25
    Herpetologist
    imptastick's Avatar
    June 2010
    5,148 Posts
    would those that agree please sign the petition. It does not go public till it has 150 signatures from direct linking

  26. Post #26
    ksenior's Avatar
    August 2007
    1,295 Posts
    like with modern donation, all medical cost is covered by the receiver and their insurance
    No, just America

  27. Post #27
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    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    donation would have to be approved by a doctor, like regular organ donation, to make sure donated organs are healthy
    Everyone can donate something. Whether it's their kidneys, their liver, their eyes, their skin. I don't think there is a single person in the world that didn't have a part of their body that could be donated.

  28. Post #28
    Gold Member
    SaWAH's Avatar
    January 2008
    1,277 Posts
    I, not being American, find it insanely stupid that you'd let organs go to waste just because they're sentenced to death. Why would you even create a law like that?

  29. Post #29
    Gold Member

    July 2007
    3,306 Posts
    I, not being American, find it insanely stupid that you'd let organs go to waste just because they're sentenced to death. Why would you even create a law like that?
    I always thought it was because the methods of execution never really allowed for organ donation, not that it was explicitly restricted by law.

  30. Post #30
    Herpetologist
    imptastick's Avatar
    June 2010
    5,148 Posts
    I always thought it was because the methods of execution never really allowed for organ donation, not that it was explicitly restricted by law.
    Right now it is both, that is why I propose that rather than use our current method of execution, we switch to putting the inmate under anesthesia and allowing them to die on the table. Basically they would go to sleep and blood flow to the brain would stop once the heart is removed. It would be painless, and save innocent lives.

  31. Post #31
    I <3 OTTERS~
    Dennab
    July 2011
    9,935 Posts
    If USA decides to have exections, the dead inmates might aswell make something for the world before leaving it completely, as for saving a life, instead of just taking one

  32. Post #32
    Danny Lol's Avatar
    June 2008
    577 Posts
    I personally believe it should still be up to the person being executed weather or not they would like to donate their organs, and if they do then sure, they should be allowed to.

  33. Post #33
    Gold Member
    Paramud's Avatar
    November 2008
    9,065 Posts
    In this method the inmate would be put to sleep with standard surgical anesthesia, then the organs would be removed. Basically they would die in their sleep without damaging the organs
    I'm all for organ donations from criminals, but I'm not sure I like the sounds of this method. I've heard one too many stories of people being fully aware, yet immobile, during surgeries to say I'm comfortable with it.