1. Post #1
    jaymh's Avatar
    May 2011
    15 Posts
    MY LITTLE PROJECT (fotography is magic)

    Before I start, I’d just like to explain that I am extremely new to photography in general, hell, I didn’t even know what aperture was until a couple weeks ago. Please don’t frown upon me for being new though, I am extremely willing to learn, and I’m open to all advice and criticism (even the bad kind!). Also I’m going to try my hardest to update frequently, but only if you guys want. I was going to post this in a different thread but I didn’t want to clog it up.

    So a friend got me interested in film cameras. I liked how they look, how they felt, and I desperately wanted to own one, if not for any real reason, then just for the process, the experience. So, turning straight to the internet, I went browsing. Forum after forum, I formed opinions about certain models, and afterwards, viewing badly designed Dreamweaver websites taught me the bare minimum of what I needed to know. I was ready to buy a camera on eBay (because my local area’s opinion of cameras is “Wait.. a camera that doesn’t have an LCD screen and 5 Auto Modes? Yeah you’ll find that in that shop over there in the stone age.” …Douchebags.

    NOTE: SOME GUY ACTUALLY SAID THIS TO ME.

    So, what camera did I get? Well, I’m new but I have read daijitsu’s “Ode to that guy” and with my money situation currently, I’m probably the polar opposite of that.

    THE UNBOXING (taken with a point&shoot)



    This arrived at my door… queue the drum roll!





    TAH-DAH!

    So anyway I got a Minolta X-700. For more pictures of it head over to my Flickr, link below.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/68827448@N05/

    Also bought some Kodak ColorPlus 200 iso, because why-the-fuck-not?





    I also threw together a scrapbook to take with me everywhere. To quote my own flickr,
    “My physical base of operations; Goes everywhere with me. I document, I jot, I learn, and more importantly, I store my favourite prints!”

    So, all set, I head out with anticipation for my first day of shooting.

    Gear - http://www.flickr.com/photos/6882744...7628292607205/

    continued...
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  2. Post #2
    dai
    "arte"
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    This'll be pretty cool to watch pan out, keep us updated regularly
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  3. Post #3
    jaymh's Avatar
    May 2011
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    This'll be pretty cool to watch pan out, keep us updated regularly
    Will do! And thanks for the help bro

    Edited:

    MOMENT OF TRUTH

    So, I went to a photo developing place my friend recommended me (£4 for negatives to CD), but apparently “the man wasn’t here and I don’t know how to develop them”. DAMN you “MAN”. Oh well, I shuffled on over to boots. After handing my roll in to some Irish guy with a boss accent I loaded another roll of film in and went on over to the Tyne Bridge for some more pictures.

    1 HOUR LATER…



    I’ll admit, I was pretty nervous. I had a feeling that I’d have done something wrong and they’d all be over exposed, or the light seal I’d inadvertently ripped off while loading my first film would cast a light beam over every photo…

    But actually, it wasn’t THAT bad (for my first time).

    NOTE: SOME OF THESE WERE TAKEN WITH MY CAMERA’S [P] MODE WHICH DOES EVERYTHING FOR ME. I HAD MY REASON, I ONLY DID IT ON THE FIRST FEW PICTURES WHEN I WAS GETTING A FEEL FOR IT.

    My basic trip was going straight from a park, back to home, then out to Newcastle to get the Christmas lights at night.

    Heres my favourites:

    1-Dubbed “Faded River”



    MY first ever picture. I like it. Can someone tell me why its all faded? I’d appreciate that. Taken on [P]

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/6882744...57628292593005

    2- Fairground



    Not technically a whole fairground. Still it deserves a place in the top five seeing as the rest weren’t all that great. Taken on [P]

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/6882744...57628292593005

    3 – Festive Focus



    I like the focus on this, turned out perfect except for the annoying light in the background. I used a Wide aperture and about half a second shutter speed (amateur slang for the win eh?). Again I’d love CC and feedback :)

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/6882744...57628292593005

    4- Robins



    By now everything was really dark, and I was traversing the market stalls and admiring the nick-nacks. I don’t like the green-ish artificial light, but I’ve told myself I’m not going to touch these with photoshop, so green they shall remain. Same setting as last picture but with a faster shutter speed.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/6882744...57628292593005

    5 – Russian Dolls



    My favourite picture of the whole night, it was pitch black at this point and to be honest, this was the shocker. Why? Because I had used up past my 24 exp film, this was number 28, and I was in a rush to get home. I literally stopped, asked this friendly looking gypsy lady if I could take a picture, DIDN’T EVEN CHECK MY SETTINGS, all I know is it wasn’t on [P], and took the shot. :) Still, feels like something is off… suggestions?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/6882744...57628292593005


    Of course, I’m not going to pretend I’m a pro photographer just because I took two decent photos, I just don’t think you want to see 7+ photos of THIS:



    But, I put all the fails on my flickr regardless. There's also a lovely picture of my babby sister sitting on a rock.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/68827448@N05/

    Thanks for reading, I’ll have more updates coming soon and I will respond to everything I can!

    EDIT: From now on I’ll post the best 3 on the roll (for ego), and the worst 3 (so you can help me improve)

    Some of the other mediocre ones:


    I deleted my post, im a fricken idiot
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  4. Post #4
    PenguinKris's Avatar
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    I actually like these photos. Something about film just makes pictures look so much "pro-er" to me.
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  5. Post #5
    jaymh's Avatar
    May 2011
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    I actually like these photos. Something about film just makes pictures look so much "pro-er" to me.
    thanks a lot :) also respect on the pichu there

  6. Post #6
    hyper-articulate
    Roll_Program's Avatar
    October 2007
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    Try going more out of your way to capture some interesting subjects or scenes, on your next trip out.
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    Also bought some Kodak ColorPlus 200 iso, because why-the-fuck-not?
    because sextar exists
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  8. Post #8
    churboi austin
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    fairground is my favorite out of the ones you've posted, the colors are really nice.

  9. Post #9
    jaymh's Avatar
    May 2011
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    Try going more out of your way to capture some interesting subjects or scenes, on your next trip out.
    Yeah, I will do that, just need to wait til I get some time and go exploring mate. Might buy a map of the world and some darts :)

    Edited:

    because sextar exists
    I get those film rolls for a pound each though, I will start buying better quality. Pretty sure they import them from mexico or something.

  10. Post #10
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    October 2007
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    Yeah, I will do that, just need to wait til I get some time and go exploring mate. Might buy a map of the world and some darts :)

    Edited:



    I get those film rolls for a pound each though, I will start buying better quality. Pretty sure they import them from mexico or something.
    Poundland get them directly from Kodak.

    It's not that bad film, especially for £1.
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  11. Post #11
    jaymh's Avatar
    May 2011
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    fairground is my favorite out of the ones you've posted, the colors are really nice.
    guess i was lucky with the lighting, thanks for the response :)

  12. Post #12
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    January 2007
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    because sextar exists
    Poundland get them directly from Kodak.

    It's not that bad film, especially for £1.
    Exactly.

    All of these were taken on poundland film:


    Avi mate 35mm by edwin.quast, on Flickr


    All the eggs 35mm by edwin.quast, on Flickr


    Aaron 35mm by edwin.quast, on Flickr


    Bobby 35mm by edwin.quast, on Flickr


    Ciara, Jay and Pig 35mm by edwin.quast, on Flickr


    Pre Party Photo 35mm by edwin.quast, on Flickr


    Sheperd's stretch 35mm by edwin.quast, on Flickr

    To you, Jaymh; it's really nice seeing somebody so enthusiastic about their first explorations with film.
    Don't lose that.
    Keep updating this thread and I'm sure people will keep coming back to offer advice. But once you feel like you're getting confident in the future, try posting (or at least browsing) in the film thread. The two creative photography threads are fast moving places, but that's where you'll see the sort of things that people like or dislike. It sounds silly, but by looking at those little 'creative ratings' under a photo can give you an idea of the sort of stuff that people enjoy looking at and although you might not get any criticism (constructive or otherwise) it may give you an inkling into the sort of subjects, composition and techniques people employ to get a good shot - opinions that are valuable if you want your photography to be appreciated by, not only yourself, but other people.
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  13. Post #13
    cueballv2themax's Avatar
    September 2010
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    oh yeah, all the colour film i shoot is from poundland
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  14. Post #14
    communistcat's Avatar
    March 2011
    630 Posts
    I only ever used Fuji C200 or superia or the Kodak colorplus. I can't get through the roll of Ektar as it seems too special.
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  15. Post #15
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    The Minolta X-700 is one hell of a good camera, now it's all up to you.
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  16. Post #16
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    Goddamn I love the look of film. Once I get back to the states I really want to invest in pursuing plain ol' fashion photography. It looks much more rewarding than dumping 1,500 photos from an SD Card.
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    Cool story bro.

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  18. Post #18
    jaymh's Avatar
    May 2011
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    To you, Jaymh; it's really nice seeing somebody so enthusiastic about their first explorations with film.
    Don't lose that.
    Keep updating this thread and I'm sure people will keep coming back to offer advice.
    I will do, I have a couple plans now for the future, and thankyou for the advice, I really appreciate the optimisticness and well wordedness haha :)

    Edited:

    The Minolta X-700 is one hell of a good camera, now it's all up to you.
    Agreed, I had heard nothing but praise for it before buying it. Did you have one yourself? If so, care to share some advice?

    Edited:

    Goddamn I love the look of film. Once I get back to the states I really want to invest in pursuing plain ol' fashion photography. It looks much more rewarding than dumping 1,500 photos from an SD Card.
    If you do, keep us updated man, or post it in this thread, I'd love to see how it turns out for you. Also, I like seeing people using film, stops it becoming a dying art form. And about the SD card, I figured since I only had 1 chance at each shot really with a film, that I would be patient and take more things into consideration - so far it's working.
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    I will do, I have a couple plans now for the future, and thankyou for the advice, I really appreciate the optimisticness and well wordedness haha :)

    Edited:



    Agreed, I had heard nothing but praise for it before buying it. Did you have one yourself? If so, care to share some advice?

    Edited:



    If you do, keep us updated man, or post it in this thread, I'd love to see how it turns out for you. Also, I like seeing people using film, stops it becoming a dying art form. And about the SD card, I figured since I only had 1 chance at each shot really with a film, that I would be patient and take more things into consideration - so far it's working.
    I definitely will! My mum actually has around 6-7 different cameras with a huge assortment of lenses that she displayed in our family room. I even have a 1940's era video camera that still works. It's just a shame she left them in storage along with a bunch of our other stuff we didn't think we'd need here in Greece. Once I get back I'll raid the collection and see what I can come up with.
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  20. Post #20
    jaymh's Avatar
    May 2011
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    Okay, so today has been rainy and gloomy and I've had a lot of work to do, so no expos have taken place. But for the sake of updating the thread as much as possible, I just want to let you know I'm getting a 28mm lens tomorrow. Turns out my stepmother had one knocking about in her garage, so that should be interesting to experiment with. Also, my hands got really f***ing cold last time I went out with the minolta, so I.. Uh, MODIFIED a pair of gloves.







    Oh and thanks for the replies I've been getting, although not an insane amount, I've only really seen 15 people veiwing photography at any given time, so thanks. IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY PROJECTS THEY'RE WORKING ON, OR YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO'S TRYING OUT DIFFERENT THINGS, DIRECT THEM HERE. THIS IS A THREAD FOR EXPERIENCE AND DEVELOPING KNOWLEDGE :)

    Lastly, I'm going to my Dads house this weekend, he lives more rurally (about 20 miles outside of Gateshead), and there's a lot more woodland so I'm hoping to get a nice roll developed on Sunday. Watch this space!

    Edited:

    I definitely will! My mum actually has around 6-7 different cameras with a huge assortment of lenses that she displayed in our family room. I even have a 1940's era video camera that still works. It's just a shame she left them in storage along with a bunch of our other stuff we didn't think we'd need here in Greece. Once I get back I'll raid the collection and see what I can come up with.
    That sounds amazing, you lucky guy, once you get back you'll be a kid in a vintage candy shop! Also, Greece must be filled with photo opportunities, guess it's times like these you wish you could take pictures with your eyes (how poetic).
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  21. Post #21
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    Agreed, I had heard nothing but praise for it before buying it. Did you have one yourself? If so, care to share some advice?
    The only thing I don't like about the camera is the on-off switch. I forget to turn it off all of the time which sucks since the shutter is electrically triggered so when you run out of juice you're dead in the water unless you have more batteries.

    Do you have an electric winder for your camera?
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  22. Post #22
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    you're a good writer if not a good photographer yet
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  23. Post #23
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    May 2011
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    Do you have an electric winder for your camera?
    Not yet, and I guess I don't really need one, but if I see one for a complete bargain on ebay I'll be tempted. And I agree with the ON/OFF switch thing, I believe that it was made like that because Minolta were really trying to modernise when they brought it out, hence all of the features (I read a couple of articles in my spare time). Still, I suppose I can't really complain, it is a wonderful camera.

    Edited:

    you're a good writer if not a good photographer yet
    Thanks, I appreciate that :)

    UPDATE: I will upload some pictures of my new lens tomorrow, and I should have a new roll developed on Sunday night. I plan on finishing my second test roll (I decided the first two are tests), and then I'm going down to saltwell park. I hope that's out of the way anough for Roll_Program. I might experiment with long exposures. In the meantime, keep posting if you like, I will respond to everything and it's nice to know people are following along!

    Link to Minolta Manual/Usage tips - http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...700/index1.htm

  24. Post #24
    jaymh's Avatar
    May 2011
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    Okay so it's sunday and I kept my promise. To anyone who actually is following along to my "glorified first use of a camera". I'll make it simple, the roll was pretty crap. I did however get my wide angle lens and borrowed a compatible flashgun so that cheered me up a bit.

    Best 3:

    1- Medusa at saltwell park



    They had some event on so I used up the last few pictures while I was there. It's not exactly well shot, but I like it because it's weirdly interesting

    50mm lens

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshhil...57628376669843

    2- Lonely Park



    I like how the colours turned out, but I should have removed that broken branch. I made it larger as you can see it clearer than the previous one.

    50mm lens

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshhil...57628376669843

    3- Flower



    First picture with a macro zoom lens. 70-210mm

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshhil...57628376669843

    Now my worst 3 (this was hard, there were so many fails -.-)

    1- Waterfall



    If only I hadn't buggered the focus and shutter speed, this might have been nice.

    2- Failure to expose



    3- Flash experiment



    No comment. Anyone want to explain how to use a flashgun, be my guest.


    Anyway, thanks again for the replies. I was a bit of a retard to a friend in a different thread and got what I deserved, so I just want to clarify, I'm not trying to make a big deal of this, I know I'm shit. My logic, however, told me that this was a place where I could store my progress online for all to see, get help, get criticism, get better. If you don't like it (but I hope you do), I apologise.

    Head over to my flickr if you want to see more of the roll, there were some other decent pictures of the tyne and milennium bridge.
    http://flickr.com/joshhills
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  25. Post #25
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    Not sure if anyone told you why your "faded" picture is faded. I'm one of the "MAN" who develops film. When a picture is underexposed to hell, we increase the density in it, thus sometimes causing it to look "faded"

    Also, not every photography store does the manual "density increase" and lets the machine auto-run it, thus making the picture worse than better. At my store, we're trying to give the customers as positive service as possible, thus doing it manually.
    But it takes so long.
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  26. Post #26
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    May 2011
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    Also, not every photography store does the manual "density increase" and lets the machine auto-run it, thus making the picture worse than better. At my store, we're trying to give the customers as positive service as possible, thus doing it manually.
    But it takes so long.
    oh wow, thanks for the tip, and for noticing my question, i thought I had did something wrong (which I suppose I did). You are a cool "MAN". keep being awesome.
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    oh wow, thanks for the tip, and for noticing my question, i thought I had did something wrong (which I suppose I did). You are a cool "MAN". keep being awesome.
    I do what I can to help out, especially when it comes down to explaining (minor) details and info about the developing. Most machines actually has a setting to just print the pictures the way they look on the negative, ask your camera store if that is an option.

    if not, tell them "Dont touch the density when printing it" as if it was an order. They probably would get scared and sort it out for you.

    Oh, and if you ever stumble across a film which they will tell you "is too thick and dark to print" just tell them to go into cropping mode and stop being lazy.
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