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    [release]The Sea Shepherd crew has intercepted the Japanese whaling fleet on Christmas Day, a thousand miles north of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.

    The Sea Shepherd ship, Steve Irwin, deployed a drone to successfully locate and photograph the Japanese factory ship Nisshin Maru on December 24th. Once the pursuit began, three Japanese harpoon/security ships moved in on the Steve Irwin to shield the Nisshin Maru to allow it to escape.

    This time however the Japanese tactic of tailing the Steve Irwin and the Bob Barker will not work because the drones, one on the Steve Irwin and the other on the Bob Barker, can track and follow the Nisshin Maru and can relay the positions back to the Sea Shepherd ships.

    “We can cover hundreds of miles with these drones and they have proven to be valuable assets for this campaign,” said Captain Paul Watson on board the Steve Irwin.

    The drone named Nicole Montecalvo was donated to the Steve Irwin by Bayshore Recycling of New Jersey, and Moran Office of Maritime and Port Security, also of New Jersey.

    Captain Watson having received reports from fishermen when the Japanese ship passed through the Lombok Strait waited south of the strait at a distance of 500 miles off the southwest coast of Western Australia. Sea Shepherd caught the whalers at 37 degrees South, far above the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.
    “The chase is on for the next 1000 miles,” said Quartermaster Eleanor Lister of Jersey (U.K.).


    With the Steve Irwin taking up the resources of three of the Japanese ships the Bob Barker remains clear of a tail and the Brigitte Bardot is clear to scout out the factory ship, having superior speed to the harpoon vessels.

    The Sea Shepherd crew have found the Japanese whaling fleet before a single whale has been killed.

    “This is going to be a long hard pursuit from here to the coast of Antarctica,” said Captain Watson. “But thanks to these drones, we now have an advantage we have never had before – eyes in the sky.”[/release]
    http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-...th-drones-1299


    That 30 million dollars of Tsunami relief aid, and a Coast Guard vessel really helped, didn't it Japan?


    Merry Christmas!
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    From the little that I've read (so if I'm wrong, don't scold me), Japan is exempt from the International Whaling Commission. And I'm not a very happy that these "Sea Shepherds" are going after the ships, even though they're not in Whale sanctuaries.
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    From the little that I've read (so if I'm wrong, don't scold me), Japan is exempt from the International Whaling Commission. And I'm not a very happy that these "Sea Shepherds" are going after the ships, even though they're not in Whale sanctuaries.
    Scientific whaling loophole, doing it in territory claimed by Australia, Got sued by Australia for doing it, Scientists saying Japans scientific whaling has no science, illegal embezzlement of whale meat, IWC fighting each year about it, using money donated for relief aid to subsidize a dying industry, and sending Coast Guard armed security ships to Antarctica. That usual jazz.

    Edited:

    And yes they are a member, they just don't give a shit about the laws it established and does what it wants.
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    Well never mind then. If it's in someone else's waters when they shouldn't be, go at them guns blazing, I don't care
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    i dont like sea shepherd but god the japanese whalers are cunts

    you'd think australia would keep the japanese from whaling in their territory (as well as breaking international whaling law there) wouldnt you?
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    From the little that I've read (so if I'm wrong, don't scold me), Japan is exempt from the International Whaling Commission. And I'm not a very happy that these "Sea Shepherds" are going after the ships, even though they're not in Whale sanctuaries.
    Except Japan is not exempt from the commission.

    http://www.iwcoffice.org/commission/members.htm

    Fucking ninja'd.

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    i dont like sea shepherd but god the japanese whalers are cunts

    you'd think australia would keep the japanese from whaling in their territory (as well as breaking international whaling law there) wouldnt you?
    The whalers exploit a loophole so its really down to opinion whether its legal or not. Australia doesn't like it but they can't be arsed to do anything about it. To be clear, norway and Iceland use the same loophole, but do it in their own waters.
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    Fly, my environmental brothers

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    Sea Shepherd isn't my favorite but you gotta admit they have balls

    Also whales own, fuck whaling

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    Who owns the area around Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary again? Just put a single cruiser out there, get them in contact with the sea shepherd guys(even though they're cunts too), message the whaler ships, give them a day to leave their waters, if they don't comply, sink the ship and jail the whalers.
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    -snip, not thinking straight-
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    The SECOND I become a millionaire, I'm funding these guys balls deep and giving them the arms they need to deal with whalers. Boxes if you'd like, fuck whaling and those who do it.
    The second I become a billionaire I'm buying myself the latest nuclear powered Russian sub and hunting whaling ships down while pretending I'm a WW2 submarine commander
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    So he is alive in robotic form, hail Steve Irwin are new overload!
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    The SECOND I become a millionaire, I'm funding these guys balls deep and giving them the arms they need to deal with whalers. Boxes if you'd like, fuck whaling and those who do it.
    Meaning they deserve to be killed in cold blood?

    I suppose you'd like to be the one to tell all their families and friends you provided the means to kill them.
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    Who owns the area around Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary again? Just put a single cruiser out there, get them in contact with the sea shepherd guys(even though they're cunts too), message the whaler ships, give them a day to leave their waters, if they don't comply, sink the ship and jail the whalers.

    While Australia says they claimed this territory, It is still subject to the Antarctic Treaty. Any use of weaponry, and certainly any hostilities would be a violation of the UN.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty
    http://www.environment.gov.au/coasts/index.html
    Australia posted:
    Australia has the third largest marine estate of any nation in the world. It is a massive area larger than our landmass and extends from the tropical seas of the north to the sub-Antarctic waters of the Southern Ocean.
    the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary is an IWC created region where commercial whaling is illegal.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souther...hale_Sanctuary

    Australia has gotten semi-involved in the past, however.

    The last time is when Sea Shepherds boarded a whaling ship and forced the Aussies to come down and transfer them back to the Sea Shepherds.

    This year, both Sea Shepherd and the whalers requested Australia send ships down. The Whalers wanted protection from Sea Shepherd. Sea Shepherd wanted the Aussies to chase the Whalers and protect Aussie citizens onboard Sea Shep' vessels. Both requests were denied.
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    Antarctica Santa says whaling is bad

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    I thought the title meant that the whaling ships were using drones.
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    The second I become a billionaire I'm buying myself the latest nuclear powered Russian sub and hunting whaling ships down while pretending I'm a WW2 submarine commander
    Sounds like hell of a past-time.

    Count me in as a helmsman.
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    It's not that Australia can't be arsed stopping them, it's more that it creates a big diplomatic blowout every time it's brought up. Japan's trade is more important to our government than the wellbeing of the whales in our waters, perhaps sadly.

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    It's not that Australia can't be arsed stopping them, it's more that it creates a big diplomatic blowout every time it's brought up. Japan's trade is more important to our government than the wellbeing of the whales in our waters, perhaps sadly.
    They don't want to cause diplomatic fuck ups.

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    Fucking hippies are fucking cheating.
    Go back to stink bombing ships. It's easier to gun you down then.
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    The SECOND I become a millionaire, I'm funding these guys balls deep and giving them the arms they need to deal with whalers. Boxes if you'd like, fuck whaling and those who do it.
    this is why sea shepherd is a bunch of cunts

    endangering the lives of whalers because they took a job on a whaling vessel is fucking stupid, and won't accomplish anything. more whalers will spring up and take the job, unless you plan on capturing and torturing other human beings to send a message to possible whaler replacements. instead of pretending to be badass vigilantes of the sea by ramming whaling vessels and making shit up (i got shot omg thank god for this plastic badge!!), they should be organizing international legal action against the companies that are running these whaling operations, and CLOSING these loopholes.
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    this is why sea shepherd is a bunch of cunts

    endangering the lives of whalers because they took a job on a whaling vessel is fucking stupid, and won't accomplish anything. more whalers will spring up and take the job, unless you plan on capturing and torturing other human beings to send a message to possible whaler replacements. instead of pretending to be badass vigilantes of the sea by ramming whaling vessels and making shit up (i got shot omg thank god for this plastic badge!!), they should be organizing international legal action against the companies that are running these whaling operations, and CLOSING these loopholes.
    But it's extremely difficult to close the loopholes. Our government has been trying for a while now.
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    this is why sea shepherd is a bunch of cunts

    endangering the lives of whalers because they took a job on a whaling vessel is fucking stupid, and won't accomplish anything. more whalers will spring up and take the job, unless you plan on capturing and torturing other human beings to send a message to possible whaler replacements. instead of pretending to be badass vigilantes of the sea by ramming whaling vessels and making shit up (i got shot omg thank god for this plastic badge!!), they should be organizing international legal action against the companies that are running these whaling operations, and CLOSING these loopholes.
    Sea Shepherd doesn't care if they continue to go down to Antarctica. They're there to stop them from killing whales. Paul Watson and whoever takes over after he dies will follow the Japanese whaling industry into bankruptcy which is exactly their plan. Sea Shepherd has been doing this since 2005. The 30 million dollars of Tsunami relief donations is the only profit they've made in about 6 years. And that is exclusively because of Sea Shepherd. As long as Sea Shepherd exists, they will follow the whalers, and Japan will be wasting money.

    Hell, Last season Japan decided to end the hunt early after catching only 172 whales from its quota of up to 985, Citing Sea Shepherd as the reason.
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    Sea Shepherd isn't my favorite but you gotta admit they have balls
    They have the balls to do absolutely nothing useful other than mildly annoy a bunch of whalers that could give two shits. All they do is "legally vandalize" the whaling ships, and that leads to absolutely nothing except some slightly annoyed whalers that will have to take about 5 minutes out of their day to simply hose it off. Also they tend to follow the whalers around too, so I guess that's kind of annoying. If they actually did something the Japanese would fuck up their shit so bad they'd never go near the ocean again.
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    The second I become a billionaire I'm buying myself the latest nuclear powered Russian sub and hunting whaling ships down while pretending I'm a WW2 submarine commander
    Yeah well i'm gonna do the same in a F-15.
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    Why dont they just drive a RC inflatable packed with explosives into the waling boats. Problem solved can all go home.
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    They have the balls to do absolutely nothing useful other than mildly annoy a bunch of whalers that could give two shits. All they do is "legally vandalize" the whaling ships, and that leads to absolutely nothing except some slightly annoyed whalers that will have to take about 5 minutes out of their day to simply hose it off. Also they tend to follow the whalers around too, so I guess that's kind of annoying. If they actually did something the Japanese would fuck up their shit so bad they'd never go near the ocean again.
    They follow the whalers because that's how they stop them. A single whale brings in well over a million dollars. With a Sea Shepherd ship on the loading ramp of the factory ship, it is impossible to transfer whales from the Harpoon ships. If they do kill any whales they will go to waste, and the whalers will not make any money.

    As far as doing "useful" things. When this season is over, all three vessels will break up and do other missions. Last season they went to Libya despite the civil war, and had the only civilian helicopter in the no-fly zone. Then they immediately went to the Faroe islands to document the slaughter there. Then it was back down to Australia to get ready for this season. That's not to mention their ongoing campaigns in Japan watching the Taiji dolphin slaughter, and stopping poachers along side police in the Galapagos islands.(they also found the time to document seal clubbing in Namibia). They were also among the first organizations to offer help after the BP oil disaster. You want a worthless group, go to Greenpeace. They make 200 million dollars a year and do shit compared to Sea Shepherd which makes less than 20 million a year. If Sea Shepherd had Greenpeaces resources, they would buy a navy bigger than some countries.
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    A single whale brings in well over a million dollars.
    Damn. I now know how I'm going to be making my billion dollars then.

    Whale farming.
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    this is why sea shepherd is a bunch of cunts

    endangering the lives of whalers because they took a job on a whaling vessel is fucking stupid, and won't accomplish anything. more whalers will spring up and take the job, unless you plan on capturing and torturing other human beings to send a message to possible whaler replacements. instead of pretending to be badass vigilantes of the sea by ramming whaling vessels and making shit up (i got shot omg thank god for this plastic badge!!), they should be organizing international legal action against the companies that are running these whaling operations, and CLOSING these loopholes.
    They can't take a job if Japan sees how much money they are loosing and scrap the only whale factory ship in the world. If they desperately want to kill whales for meat that is loosing popularity then they can do it in their own waters. (which they do, but the Tsunami seriously hindered that)

    Edited:

    Damn. I now know how I'm going to be making my billion dollars then.

    Whale farming.
    Better hurry.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002...ation.research
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    Personally I think sea shephard should GTFO. Regardless of your stance on whaling, there is no place in this world for vigilante eco-terrorists attacking unarmed civilians who are just trying to feed their families.
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    Personally I think sea shephard should GTFO. Regardless of your stance on whaling, there is no place in this world for vigilante eco-terrorists attacking unarmed civilians who are just trying to feed their families.
    Thing is that there seems to be a sort of moral difference between killing some generic animal for food and killing a whale.

    The more we know about whales, the more intelligent they seem, perhaps even sapient. We might be killing out an actually intelligent species, and that's something that should be unacceptable for us, as a species.

    I justify killing normal animals like poultry and generic farm animals because these never have presented intelligence higher than a few line script done in some generic coding language. I see them as simple biological machines. Completely basic robots, void of any higher value than what lies in energy of their flesh and fat.
    I simply can't justify it this way when it comes to these creatures, because it's clearly not the case.

    I am pretty sure that if a race of aliens from space came and began harvesting us for food, you would be really glad if the ones doing it would be only a minority within a big race and the rest tried to stop them.
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    Personally I think sea shephard should GTFO. Regardless of your stance on whaling, there is no place in this world for vigilante eco-terrorists attacking unarmed civilians who are just trying to feed their families.
    Poaching is alright as long as someone is making money? Not to mention they take the best parts of the meat for themselves and sell them for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Veteran whalers have enough to feed their families with one whale.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...panese-whaling
    Some whalers would take home between five and 10 boxes, he said, while one secured as many as 40 boxes of prime meat that fetches ¥20,000 (about £148) a kilo when sold legally. One crew member built a house with the profits from illicitly sold whale meat, he said. "Another used the money he earned to buy a car," he said. "They were careful to select only the best cuts, like the meat near the tail fin. I never dared challenge them."
    He contradicted Japan's claims that the industry, which reportedly required government subsidies of almost $12m in 2008-09, is highly efficient. The fleet would sometimes catch more whales than necessary, he said, strip them of their most expensive parts and throw what was left overboard.

    "I didn't think of the embezzlement at first. I just couldn't stand the waste. A lot of meat was being thrown away because we kept catching whales even after we'd reached our daily quota. I decided I had to tell someone what was happening."
    It's poaching. Government funded Poaching.
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    Thing is that there seems to be a sort of moral difference between killing some generic animal for food and killing a whale.

    The more we know about whales, the more intelligent they seem, perhaps even sapient. We might be killing out an actually intelligent species, and that's something that should be unacceptable for us, as a species.

    I justify killing normal animals like poultry and generic farm animals because these never have presented intelligence higher than a few line script done in some generic coding language. I see them as simple biological machines. Completely basic robots, void of any higher value than what lies in energy of their flesh and fat.
    I simply can't justify it this way when it comes to these creatures, because it's clearly not the case.

    I am pretty sure that if a race of aliens from space came and began harvesting us for food, you would be really glad if the ones doing it would be only a minority within a big race and the rest tried to stop them.
    I don't think I'd mind if they started harvesting us as food, they have families to feed afterall.
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    I don't think I'd mind if they started harvesting us as food, they have families to feed afterall.
    Thing is that there's thousand different ways of feeding your family. I wouldn't say anything if people were starving and whales were the only source of food available, but that's not the case.
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    Not going to lie, I love Sea Shepherd. I've been a fan since I visited one of their ships on a school excursion like eight years ago. I would join them if I could. I understand why people find them polarizing (and I'm not 100% behind all of what their members do, but that could go for any organization really) but I think whaling is unacceptable in this day and age - and so is the Australian government letting them off the hook just because of Japan's power in the international political arena. Despite what some of you say, their actions have had positive effects, and they do go out there and fight where it is needed.

    Edited:

    The SECOND I become a millionaire, I'm funding these guys balls deep and giving them the arms they need to deal with whalers. Boxes if you'd like, fuck whaling and those who do it.
    They wouldn't accept them. They're quite proud of the fact that they minimize harm done to those whaling, and rightly so.
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    Not going to lie, I love Sea Shepherd. I've been a fan since I visited one of their ships on a school excursion like eight years ago. I would join them if I could. I understand why people find them polarizing (and I'm not 100% behind all of what their members do, but that could go for any organization really) but I think whaling is unacceptable in this day and age - and so is the Australian government letting them off the hook just because of Japan's power in the international political arena. Despite what some of you say, their actions have had positive effects, and they do go out there and fight where it is needed.

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    They wouldn't accept them. They're quite proud of the fact that they minimize harm done to those whaling, and rightly so.
    You could join if you wanted to. They have a ship crewed entirely by Aussies.

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    Personally I think sea shephard should GTFO. Regardless of your stance on whaling, there is no place in this world for vigilante eco-terrorists attacking unarmed civilians who are just trying to feed their families.
    Your argument is bordering on the lines of, "Well, it's illegal what they're doing, so...."

    Except, um, laws can be wrong sometimes. They're not vigilantes because they're not seeking to punish the whalers for reasons of retribution, they're trying to stop what they see as illegal, immoral, and environmentally devastating behaviour that no-one else is stopping.
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    Fly, my environmental brothers

    I swear if that was taken at 29 Palms I'm gonna be looking more for those. I also can't believe they called their ship Steve Irwin.

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    Sea Shepherd isn't my favorite but you gotta admit they have balls

    Also whales own, fuck whaling


    It's funny cause your bonus track.