1. Post #1
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    oskutin's Avatar
    January 2007
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    There have been many micronations and micronationalits who has made lots of non-regognized nations.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation

    Do you think that in future some large corporations will set up a own nation in an artifical island, and get regognized by other nations?

    What kind of nation you'll might want to make? And Where?
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  2. Post #2
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    Erector Beast's Avatar
    March 2007
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    Large corporations don't need to set up their own nation, they already spend enough money controlling ours
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  3. Post #3
    I make awesome maps that never see the light of day
    oskutin's Avatar
    January 2007
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    Google might want one
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    couldn't you make some kind of tax haven with this?
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  5. Post #5
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    Dennab
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    I think that to be seen as a recognised nation, a number of countries must recognise it, and you must have undisputed claim to an area of land.

    The Soviet Union for example was not seen as an actual nation for several years after the October Revolution as the land it claimed was disputed, and also many nations did not recognise it existed.

    By the mid 1920s it had solved both problems though, allowing it to become a nation proper.
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    Ond kaja's Avatar
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    couldn't you make some kind of tax haven with this?
    Depends. If the country is within the jurisdiction of another country it would probably be illegal activity to found an unofficial taxing authority.
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  7. Post #7
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    LifeIsGood's Avatar
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    Ladies and gentlemen, the Principality of Sealand
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    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
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    Ladies and gentlemen, the Principality of Sealand
    god, you beat me to it. and they are somewhat recognized by other countries.
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    kenshin6's Avatar
    December 2011
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    This reminds me of an episode of family guy.
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    Erector Beast's Avatar
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    god, you beat me to it. and they are somewhat recognized by other countries.
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    Ploo's Avatar
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    This reminds me of an episode of family guy.
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  12. Post #12
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    oskutin's Avatar
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    god, you beat me to it. and they are somewhat recognized by other countries.
    Aren't, but no one really cares about them, so they can be "independent".
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  13. Post #13
    IIRC Disney owns a small region in Florida where they have de facto law enforcement powers, including the right to seize property

    It's kind of a micronation.
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  14. Post #14
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
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    Aren't, but no one really cares about them, so they can be "independent".
    I called them "somewhat recognized" because while they are not recognized, no country lays claim to their land.

    Edited:

    Sealand is not currently officially recognised by any sovereign state.
    Wikipedia posted:
    While it has been described as the world's smallest nation, or a micronation, Sealand is not currently officially recognised by any sovereign state. Although Roy Bates claims it is de facto recognised by Germany as they have sent a diplomat to the micronation, and by the United Kingdom after an English court ruled it did not have jurisdiction over Sealand, neither action constitutes de jure recognition as far as the respective countries are concerned.
    They are somewhat recognized.
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  15. Post #15
    I called them "somewhat recognized" because while they are not recognized, no country lays claim to their land.

    Edited:





    They are somewhat recognized.
    Wonder what the German diplomat discussed.

    "So... how many soldiers can you send?"
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  16. Post #16

    August 2011
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    More like, "how much oktober fest and hot German women do you want to import."
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    IIRC Disney owns a small region in Florida where they have de facto law enforcement powers, including the right to seize property

    It's kind of a micronation.
    Castaway Cay, an island in Bahamas used as a stop on Disney Cruises. I've been there, it's nice. I believe they technically still follow laws of the Bahamas.
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    Murkat's Avatar
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    Some day I want to buy an island with a big cave on it and name it Seaman Hole.
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  19. Post #19
    Wonder what the German diplomat discussed.

    "So... how many soldiers can you send?"
    Want to buy our luxury cars?

    Oh right sealand.
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    dbk21894's Avatar
    June 2010
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    Wonder what the German diplomat discussed.

    "So... how many soldiers can you send?"
    In August of 1978, a number of Dutch men came to Sealand in the employ of a German businessman. They were there to discuss business dealings with Sealand. While Roy was away in Britain, these men kidnapped Prince Roy's son Michael, and took Sealand by force. Soon after, Roy recaptured the island with a group of his own men and held the attackers as prisoners of war.

    During the time that he held the prisoners, the Governments of the Netherlands and Germany petitioned for their release. First they asked England to intervene in the matter, but the British government cited their earlier court decision as evidence that they made no claim to the territory of Sealand. Then, in an act of de facto recognition of Sealand's sovereignty, Germany sent a diplomat directly to Sealand to negotiate for the release of their citizen.
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  21. Post #21
    Ale994145's Avatar
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    That's pretty funny how Sealand forced Germany to recognize it as a defacto nation state.
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    Mabus's Avatar
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    The whole Coup saga was hilarious too.
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  23. Post #23

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    I would declare war against the united states and then see what happens next.
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    I would declare war against the united states and then see what happens next.
    If anything, they'd probably just send in like 5 guys to come in and take down your flag and arrest you or something.
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    The Aussie's Avatar
    May 2010
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    I made a thread on this, ill dig it up.

    Edited:

    There
    http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1114426
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  26. Post #26

    January 2012
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    If anything, they'd probably just send in like 5 guys to come in and take down your flag and arrest you or something.
    But... bu.. that would be a violation of my nations sovereignty!
    Wait oh yeah never mind USA foreign policy.
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  27. Post #27

    August 2011
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    Nation =/= State

    Anyone can set up their own state but a nation is a completely different fish.
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    uitham's Avatar
    March 2010
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    IIRC Disney owns a small region in Florida where they have de facto law enforcement powers, including the right to seize property

    It's kind of a micronation.
    But I don't want to be arrested by mickey mouse

    Anyways I don't think it is a very good idea to do it like sealand, since their only food is fish and food imported from england
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  29. Post #29
    ~~so trendy~~
    dbk21894's Avatar
    June 2010
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    But I don't want to be arrested by mickey mouse

    Anyways I don't think it is a very good idea to do it like sealand, since their only food is fish and food imported from england
    so they only import fish from england?
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  30. Post #30
    I make awesome maps that never see the light of day
    oskutin's Avatar
    January 2007
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    Heard about the Minerva atoll?
    I would have wanted to see it to develope, but damn Tonga...
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  31. Post #31
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
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    Nation =/= State

    Anyone can set up their own state but a nation is a completely different fish.
    care to elaborate the difference? From my point of view they are the same (except for in America, ofcourse.)

    Edited:

    That's pretty funny how Sealand forced Germany to recognize it as a defacto nation state.
    Well actually that German citizen tried to takeover Sealand while the king was on vacation, or something like that.
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