[sarevokh]

Hey, maybe the Great List of Those Mods changing from Free to Retail will expand with Black Mesa, who know. 3 Source Mods in less than a year have chosen to become "indie" softs,
namely Dino D-Day chosing to "kill" his promising SP mode to focus on a retail MP mode (which nobody plays around any more)
and the "art mod" Dear Esther who chose to make you pay to get bored,
and finally, recently, Ivan's Secrets, who made it from Source to Alien Swarm to... CryEngine... But I'm more comprehensive about him because the developer stated clearly that he wants to make his first steps in the "true" gaming industry with his soft... (even if I still thinks he will completly alienate his fanbase by choosing to port a "free" game into "retail")...

How much time before BMS developers completly snap and sell their 69,99 $ "mod" on indiedb, huh...

Talk me about how greed is good, Richard Gecko.

[Butthurter]

sarevokh posted:

Ivan's Secrets, who made it from Source to Alien Swarm to... CryEngine... But I'm more comprehensive about him because the developer stated clearly that he wants to make his first steps in the "true" gaming industry with his soft... (even if I still thinks he will completly alienate his fanbase by choosing to port a "free" game into "retail")...

what

[sarevokh]

Butthurter posted:

what

Uh, oh yes, you didn't know that I guess. Jlea has posted it on the mod's moddb page, and it is a full article on planetphillip.

Yes, now you can call yourself ButtHurtED...

[sirdownloadsalot]

sarevokh posted:

Uh, oh yes, you didn't know that I guess. Jlea has posted it on the mod's moddb page, and it is a full article on planetphillip.

Yes, now you can call yourself ButtHurtED...

what

[Bokito]

sarevokh posted:

Uh, oh yes, you didn't know that I guess. Jlea has posted it on the mod's moddb page, and it is a full article on planetphillip.

Yes, now you can call yourself ButtHurtED...

Well that was random. Anyways, I don't see BM becoming not-free. They've said that it would be free for 6 years now, and that it wouldn't change. They know they're losing fans due to the extremely long wait, they won't try to lose more by asking for money.

[sarevokh]

Don't you find a bit strange why there is no more Ivan's secrets topic anymore?

Well, have a guess, I understand the moderators and Jlea didn't want to have 100 page of insult-trollage garbage. But that's the way it is.

Moreover, this is the fourth mod going retail, if I count the PHANTASM mod for Doom 3, which is now developed into a full game.

I don't know if all those Minecraft/Limbo/other indies' success has completly mindf*cked many people, but it seems some people want to have a part of the money cake... Sigh.

[Bokito]

sarevokh posted:

Don't you find a bit strange why there is no more Ivan's secrets topic anymore?

Well, have a guess, I understand the moderators and Jlea didn't want to have 100 page of insult-trollage garbage. But that's the way it is.

Moreover, this is the fourth mod going retail, if I count the PHANTASM mod for Doom 3, which is now developed into a full game.

I don't know if all those Minecraft/Limbo/other indies' success has completly mindf*cked many people, but it seems some people want to have a part of the money cake... Sigh.

BM website posted:

IS IT REALLY FREE?

Black Mesa is a free modification; The developers will never charge you for playing mainly because we wouldn't want to make people pay to play, but also because it would be illegal to do so. As long as you have a copy of any source engine game on steam, Black Mesa will cost you nothing.

[SFC3]

sarevokh posted:

Don't you find a bit strange why there is no more Ivan's secrets topic anymore?

Well, have a guess, I understand the moderators and Jlea didn't want to have 100 page of insult-trollage garbage. But that's the way it is.

Moreover, this is the fourth mod going retail, if I count the PHANTASM mod for Doom 3, which is now developed into a full game.

I don't know if all those Minecraft/Limbo/other indies' success has completly mindf*cked many people, but it seems some people want to have a part of the money cake... Sigh.

i'm just picturing you as the conspiracy theorist and everyone else citizens that are completely confused at your statements

[Butthurter]

sarevokh posted:

Uh, oh yes, you didn't know that I guess. Jlea has posted it on the mod's moddb page, and it is a full article on planetphillip.

Yes, now you can call yourself ButtHurtED...

youre about as full of sources as to how my ex girlfriend is anorexic

[SnowCanary]

Butthurter posted:

youre about as full of sources as to how my ex girlfriend is anorexic

JLea commented on the Ivan's Secrets' ModDB page, and it looks like sarevokh is right. Ivan's Secrets is being released as an indie title on CryEngine 3.

I don't think that Black Mesa will go down the same route, seeing how they're basing their mod off of Valve's plot and story. Only way I could see it potentially happening is if Valve contacts them, but the developers have already denied any rumors of that.

[DrBreen]

this mod died for me in 2009

[krakadict]

oh boy 200+ posts i wonder if it's releas-NOPE.

[BobIsCrappy]

krakadict posted:

oh boy 200+ posts i wonder if it's releas-NOPE.

God damn I see so many of these posts

[Bokito]

krakadict posted:

oh boy 200+ posts i wonder if it's releas-NOPE.

Wow a new post I wonder if it doesn't contain the same joke that ha been made 200+ times befo-NOPE.

[Mr. Someguy]

sarevokh posted:

Don't you find a bit strange why there is no more Ivan's secrets topic anymore?

I thought that IS just died

[sarevokh]

I wonder also what's the point of doing a remake of Half-Life 1 without adding any "new" elements from HL2.

I mean, it would have been cool to see the administrator Breen in a lab coat, a pre-level with Barney and Gordon running through the vent shafts to reach Kleiner's lab, a baby Alyx, etc etc...

I know BMS team want to stay "true" to the original (however, they're still re-designing the levels...) but it could have been "self-conscious" of HL2 elements, I mean, they could have included the retconned elements so BMS would have really been a really interesting mod which could easly remplace the original.

[SFC3]

sarevokh posted:

I wonder also what's the point of doing a remake of Half-Life 1 without adding any "new" elements from HL2.

I mean, it would have been cool to see the administrator Breen in a lab coat, a pre-level with Barney and Gordon running through the vent shafts to reach Kleiner's lab, a baby Alyx, etc etc...

I know BMS team want to stay "true" to the original (however, they're still re-designing the levels...) but it could have been "self-conscious" of HL2 elements, I mean, they could have included the retconned elements so BMS would have really been a really interesting mod which could easly remplace the original.

Black Mesa is a better version of Half-Life: Source, which is terrible.

It's supposed to be a remake, for example, it's like Hollywood's concept of rereleasing a movie 20 years later but without changing the plot and everything from the original movie.

[MaPi_svk]

The point is to have original Half-life with pretty graphics.

[WhatTheEf]

New media from a developer's facebook:

[Conro101]

sarevokh posted:

I wonder also what's the point of doing a remake of Half-Life 1 without adding any "new" elements from HL2.

I mean, it would have been cool to see the administrator Breen in a lab coat, a pre-level with Barney and Gordon running through the vent shafts to reach Kleiner's lab, a baby Alyx, etc etc...

I know BMS team want to stay "true" to the original (however, they're still re-designing the levels...) but it could have been "self-conscious" of HL2 elements, I mean, they could have included the retconned elements so BMS would have really been a really interesting mod which could easly remplace (good job) the original.

they have a younger Kleiner and Eli, happy?

[sarevokh]

To terminate this off-topic about the Ivan who has no secrets, I will just quote a former IS team :

I doubt this will be released at all, i’ve been a member of the team for awhile now, the mod was lacking in structure, most of the team were scrambling to make good assets, without clear guidelines, goals. before the mod went retail we had literally NO story planned out, no maps. no real gameplay at all, some good features, I mean, we had several versions that were scrapped, at one point jamie put loads of efforts into a co-op version of it, then scrapped it for little to no reason.

it’s a bit of a shame really, i can only hope jlea finally puts some effort into guiding the mod, getting design down before actual execution.

See?? The modding world is slowly falling into the depths of the dark side of capitalism!!!

[Neo Kabuto]

BobIsCrappy posted:

God damn I see so many of these posts

And every time one is posted, then a few people respond to it, the unread post count rises again for everyone, someone posts about how they see so many posts but it's not out yet, and then the cycle repeats.

[JimJam707]

WhatTheEf posted:

New media from a developer's facebook:

mmmmmm... facebook quality jpgs

[SFC3]

sarevokh posted:

See?? The modding world is slowly falling into the depths of the dark side of capitalism!!!

now your starting to sound like jesse ventura or something

[.FLAP.JACK.DAN.]

WhatTheEf posted:

New media from a developer's facebook:

I hope the reason the textures looks like ass was from the image quality or the setting be on low.

[Wilford Brimley]

WhatTheEf posted:

New media from a developer's facebook:

Does anyone else thinks this looks like shit

[Mio Akiyama]

Wilford Brimley posted:

Does anyone else thinks this looks like shit

I blame facebook's jpeg compression

[Butthurter]

Mio Akiyama posted:

I blame facebook's jpeg compression

and the horrible labcoat texture

[Tacosheller]

Butthurter posted:

and the horrible labcoat texture

Looks like the same one from half life

[sarevokh]

Wilford Brimley posted:

Does anyone else thinks this looks like shit

Actually, I think it's less shitty than Duke Nukem Forever.

But now, judging by the quality, I know this won't ever go retail, what a relieve, EH???!!!???

(User was banned for this post ("Trolling / Shitposting. STOP" - Swebonny))

[The freeman]

sarevokh posted:

Actually, I think it's less shitty than Duke Nukem Forever.

But now, judging by the quality, I know this won't ever go retail, what a relieve, EH???!!!???

You are not a good troll, you know.

[Wilford Brimley]

I mean the background textures honestly aren't that bad but it looks like the gun is being held 10 feet away from the camera and the scientist looks like he's had 30 facelifts
Also oh my jesus that desk and tie

Did anyone else notice the weird bar-like thing on the wall to the far right? Literally looks like an HL1 texture

[relinquish]

WhatTheEf posted:

New media from a developer's facebook:

The FOV looks way too high in that shot.

[CakeMaster7]

sarevokh posted:

Actually, I think it's less shitty than Duke Nukem Forever.

But now, judging by the quality, I know this won't ever go retail, what a relieve, EH???!!!???

can you just go away

either you're a troll or dumb, either way we don't need you in this thread

[JLea]

sarevokh posted:

To terminate this off-topic about the Ivan who has no secrets, I will just quote a former IS team :




See?? The modding world is slowly falling into the depths of the dark side of capitalism!!!

That's pfoot. He was never on the team, infact he just constantly posts troll comments on anything I do.

http://www.moddb.com/members/jlea

[Natedog]

[Butthurter]

Wilford Brimley posted:

I mean the background textures honestly aren't that bad but it looks like the gun is being held 10 feet away from the camera and the scientist looks like he's had 30 facelifts
Also oh my jesus that desk and tie

Did anyone else notice the weird bar-like thing on the wall to the far right? Literally looks like an HL1 texture

you do realize that desk is work in progress right
it doesnt even have a texture

Edited:

also the problem isnt with the facemaps
its the environment - it doesnt look as gritty as it should be

[Blooper Reel]

It reminds me of that other Source mod called Operation Black Mesa where everything looked WAY too flat, clean and simpilistic and generally gave off a weird looking effect at times.

   Did I mention it used HL1 textures too? It was a weirdly done mod.   

[UntouchedShadow]

WhatTheEf posted:

New media from a developer's facebook:

An accurate representation of the people waiting for this mod. Tired, bored, and dieing of old age.

[Antimuffin]

When I'm looking at the other screenshots they have released, months ago, this looks like shit. And this one is even new. Maybe the user took the screenshot with lower settings, because his pc couldn't handle it. It was the case at some screens from Atomic Punch.