Register
Events
Popular
More
Post #1001
I'm almost afraid of what will happen to the internet if/when this actually gets released.
Think about it: we'll be losing one of the longest running jokes around. No more "something being done before BM:S" is released, because it'll be out.
Maybe it's never meant to ever be finished.
-
-
Meh, we handled the release of DNF. We'll be fine. We'll always have EP3.
-
But all we were left with after DNF was sadness.
Do you really want more sadness?
-
Goddamn this is an all star lineup! canister, crate and barrel are back and looking better than ever!
-
Throwing out some thoughts:
BM isn't a high profile game developed with shareholders watching over the devs; could the devs have not released a demo here or there to gauge interest and get feedback in the direction they were going?
I know many people before me have complained about the BM team's secrecy, but it just boggles my mind how they treat it like more than it is... a mod.
I don't know what to think, nothing about Black Mesa is clear.
-
One thing is clear and thats we will never get to play it.
-
The thing is, as something becomes more tantilizing in the eye of the beholder, it can begin to defy the beholder's logic. Basically, the BM:S team are holding a bone away from a dog, and the dog gradually begins to think "well if he's holding it for so long it must be a really good bone" because that's what dogs do.
So, yes, in a way, we are being unfair. But it's simply an obvious effect of refusing to update media, that we begin to think (no matter what our more logical brains tell us) that the payoff will be better than a mod ever could be.
-
Don't worry
We'll still have Timesplitters 4.
-
yeah but that has an actual chance of coming out within the decade
-
This : http://forums.blackmesasource.com/sh...ostcount=17882
and
This : http://forums.blackmesasource.com/sh...ostcount=17875
So much for the hype train to crash again.
I've always thought the best beta test any studio can ever have is the reports of crashes and bugs when a mod/game is actually released to the general public....
-
-
Woah 100 new posts in a day I wonder what happe- oh
-
Because when a game is at the point where you're beta testing to fix bugs means it's no where near completion.
-
I make a general rule that if there's been more than fifty posts and it isn't a popular thread then it's an argument
-
Maybe beta testers gave poor reviews and they deleted all their work and re-start from the beginning.
Maybe Raminator's developing his own version of BMS Director's cut.
Maybe... Fuck.
"hey, the mod is done but it is so bad that I will feel shameful to release it. Wait five more years!".
-
It wasn't just textures they used to show how unsafe Black Mesa was. Many things throughout the game suggest the actual state of the facility. E.g The equipment was being used for things it wasn't intended for, chemical spills, few ways out (One of the scientists says opening the Silo doors is their only way out), poorly maintained areas that will still in use etc.
The lack of things such as doors or safety railings wasn't just due to technical or gameplay reasons.
-
He says this because the Military has the area locked down, and the Silo Door is the only remaining way out.
-
I´m disappointed about making the sentrys being aimed like HL2 and not like HL1 when it can aim 360º. Those type of things ruins the gameplay.
-
I don't see what chemical spills and the equipment (the first being used in a non-accessible area to showcase the state of the place and the rest only being when it directly affected the players progress) has to do with the hilariously few amount of doors that are in Half-Life there aren't intended to be used by the player, or rooms where sense has been compromised for a certain gameplay feature. Most of the detailing was still done through texturing the level geometry to detail it, instead of having actual 3D details.
I promise you that if Valve had made the game today, there would have been doors everywhere, because not only are they a good way to spice up the surroundings, but also to make an area seem much larger than it is by having places inaccessible to the player.
-
There is an old rumor that BM team has to send the build to Valve before releasing it on the Internet. Valve supposedly asked for this when they told them about dropping "Source" from the title.
That explains a lot. I can understand that they don't want to send an unpolished beta version to Valve... just because we want to help "testing" it.
-
No they don't. It is a mod, why would valve care.
-
You know what else ruins gameplay
Turrets that fall over with a single pistol shot
-
It's almost as if Half-Life 1 gameplay is outdated and over the 10 years since it's been introduced, other more superior mixes of intensity and far more marketable linear storytelling have been introduced.
-
Sentries do not fall over from a single pistol shot in the original Half-Life. If the BMS team are incapable of mimicking this behavior over 12 years later on a much more advanced engine and instead must lazily parrot a Half-Life 2 design to counteract their ineptitude, then perhaps they're not doing all that great of a job at what they're doing.
One of the big fears about Black Mesa is that it's simply going to feel like a Half-Life 2 map pack rather than a true remake of Half-Life 1. Well here's a hint: blatantly shoehorning Half-Life 2 designs into the mod isn't going to help break that stigma.
-
That the old turret kept falling over is probably the most ridiculous excuse I've ever heard.
It's one simple ai that a child could program and a seperate model to assign a locked physics prop to parent the ai to.
There. perfect HL1 turrets
-
Or they found out that the turrets from HL2 worked just as well, and didn't involve any workarounds to make it function properly.
-
So you're going with a "Why fix what isn't broken?" mentality? By that logic, the BMS dev team should never have set out to make BMS in the first place, because HL:S isn't broken.
-
Read this post. Clicked the link. It happened to me too.
EVERY SINGLE TIME
-
Why would you do something as ass backwards as that when you can just change the legs on the fucking turret
Seriously why are you complaining about something so fucking insignifigant
It's even fucking more realistic I can't understand your logic
-
He's not complaining, he's
showing how that can be fixed because other people besides him were complaining about it.
-
They could even just tweak the physics model a bit to make it more stable without having to do any real work.
-
Ass backwards?
In case you haven't realised modding and game development requires workarounds and lots of them, and adding a few *'s to a couple of names in a setup of 3 entities and then creating a prefab is probably the easiest solution.
Agreed, but having recently replayed Half-Life 1 there's fundamental changes that makes the two different takes at a turret suitable for different gameplay.
The hl2 sentry is frail and tied to the physics of the engine, providing gameplay elements that lets the player re arrange turrets and use them to his advantage, or bash them out of his way with the gravity gun.
But the hl1 sentries, coming from another era of computational capabilities and thus gameplay were static, areal denial obstacles that had to be overcome for the player to progress. Either trough classic 90ties videogames explosives, or if you just had your HEV recharged; good old bullets, there was no sneaking your way outside the turrets FOV in hl1.
The devs said they are trying to recreate hl1 on source, and I find this new sentry disappointing because it's not only a hl2 asset, but also a hl2 gameplay element replacing an easily recreated sentry gun with completely different role.
And to be frank, seeing Half-Life 2 content undeniably takes away from what most mods could have been, be it vanilla source sounds or butt ugly terrain textures.
-
how is it a HL2 asset? its a completely new model and textures.
-
It's a hl2 asset because they've decided to go with the coding of the Half-Life 2 sentry and then subsequentially reworked their model to work with it.
Also, I'm not really against this new sentry, I just can't seem to make sense of it. Because if they have functional ceiling sentries working they should be able to easily create static floor-level sentries, and since that apparently doesn't seem to have worked out for them maybe they don't even have those :I
I honestly don't know what I think of it but I can't help but think it's just sheer laziness.
-
My ideal sentry would be one that will rotate around when idle, but it can only see what is infont of them. That'd add a possible stealth element as you can sneak around behind it while it's 'scanning', as long as you stay on the opposite side from the camera. And when you knock it over, it can make a repeated error noise (as a signal to nearby troops that it needs to be picked up) instead of shutting off right away.
-
The Atomic review on medium settings
The same area with higher graphics settings
Didn't know if this was old or not.
-
Looks great
Edited:
Only problem with the metal texture is that one patch thing that would repeat very badly.
-
Doesn't seem like they wanted the static ground sentries, and it only seems natural to want them to be physics based now that they're on the Source engine.
Edited:
And I think that was the plan all along, but it didn't work out with the old sentry model
-
Medium graphics set that scientist in the back on fire it seemsThe Atomic review on medium settings
The same area with higher graphics settings
Didn't know if this was old or not.
-
Very possible, All I want is for them to to be able to turn 360 degrees anyways
Optimistic x 2
Agree x 5
Disagree x 1
Funny x 5
x 1
x 1
Winner x 1
Useful x 3
Dumb x 3
Late x 1
