1. Post #4041
    Gold Member
    Kendra's Avatar
    November 2008
    7,200 Posts
    Making hydras isn't decision making it's just retarded

    Edited:

    Cruncher should really considering learning a second build. Heck, even adding one more probe or something... change it up.

    Edited:

    Man, my ZvP is better than IdrA's... that's just depressing.
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  2. Post #4042
    Crisis01's Avatar
    June 2010
    589 Posts
    Dat feel when you realize that whenever someone makes hydras, they lose.
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  3. Post #4043
    zombojoe's Avatar
    March 2010
    7,607 Posts
    Make banelings instead they are more cost effective against Stalkers anyway.
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  4. Post #4044
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    Kendra's Avatar
    November 2008
    7,200 Posts
    Dat feel when you realize that whenever someone makes hydras, they lose.
    dat feel when someone makes hydras/ultras [without infestors]/carriers/scouts [in BW]
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  5. Post #4045
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    Jacko245's Avatar
    April 2009
    2,230 Posts
    Any tips for 2v2? Me and my friend are bronze (in fact, slowly getting further and further down the ladder thanks to zerg rushes etc...
    If I was playing Protoss, and he was playing Terran, what would some viable strategies be to work our way up?
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  6. Post #4046
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    Kendra's Avatar
    November 2008
    7,200 Posts
    Any tips for 2v2? Me and my friend are bronze (in fact, slowly getting further and further down the ladder thanks to zerg rushes etc...
    If I was playing Protoss, and he was playing Terran, what would some viable strategies be to work our way up?
    3gate expand and 3rax expand will easily get you to 2v2 masters.
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  7. Post #4047
    CMB Unit 01's Avatar
    May 2007
    1,961 Posts
    Idra's undoubtedly a great player but his decision making is fucking awful sometimes
    I see him as one of those chess players that thinks they'll lose in twenty turns so they give up now.
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  8. Post #4048
    Fuck Your Life
    Dennab
    July 2011
    2,186 Posts
    I do it on Ladder a lot.
    Surrender 5 minutes before when he'd actually destroy my army.
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  9. Post #4049
    Quite so, ol' chap.
    Dominicus's Avatar
    December 2011
    4,040 Posts
    I see him as one of those chess players that thinks they'll lose in twenty turns so they give up now.
    Sometimes you just know you're not going to win anymore.

    Having your army decimated in such a fashion that puts you behind too far, good time to just surrender and try again later.
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  10. Post #4050
    CMB Unit 01's Avatar
    May 2007
    1,961 Posts
    Sometimes you just know you're not going to win anymore.

    Having your army decimated in such a fashion that puts you behind too far, good time to just surrender and try again later.
    Even so, I feel like he's very harsh on himself. Yes, he's the progamer, and he knows a lot more about the game than me, but even in recoverable positions he seems to lose all of his fight.

    On the opposite end of the scale, from Korean pros that I see, they never give up even when its clear they've lost
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  11. Post #4051
    Quite so, ol' chap.
    Dominicus's Avatar
    December 2011
    4,040 Posts
    Even so, I feel like he's very harsh on himself. Yes, he's the progamer, and he knows a lot more about the game than me, but even in recoverable positions he seems to lose all of his fight.

    On the opposite end of the scale, from Korean pros that I see, they never give up even when its clear they've lost
    Idra has this idea that if he isn't playing as he thinks he should be playing he'd rather surrender and try again later.
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  12. Post #4052

    March 2012
    59 Posts
    Even so, I feel like he's very harsh on himself. Yes, he's the progamer, and he knows a lot more about the game than me, but even in recoverable positions he seems to lose all of his fight.

    On the opposite end of the scale, from Korean pros that I see, they never give up even when its clear they've lost
    Reminds me of this

    That comeback.

    Idra has this idea that if he isn't playing as he thinks he should be playing he'd rather surrender and try again later.
    We're seeing where that gets him though.. I don't get why he acts that way, he must know it's a bad attitude himself, and he sees his results..
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  13. Post #4053
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    Kondor58's Avatar
    April 2006
    14,096 Posts
    winning against a proxy 2 rax by going hatch first

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12230519/Pro...0Rax.SC2Replay
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  14. Post #4054
    Quite so, ol' chap.
    Dominicus's Avatar
    December 2011
    4,040 Posts
    We're seeing where that gets him though.. I don't get why he acts that way, he must know it's a bad attitude himself, and he sees his results..
    Maybe he cannot help it? I don't know.
    I only know that the reason behind his early surrenders has something to do with his personal goal of playing to the best of his abilities.
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  15. Post #4055
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    Yumyumbublegum's Avatar
    January 2009
    7,719 Posts
    I just started playing 2v2's with my friend (new to starcraft), I thought I was bad, but we completely destroyed our opponents.
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  16. Post #4056
    A Self Condescending Title
    Xion12's Avatar
    October 2006
    2,203 Posts
    Yeah, that feeling never goes away.
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  17. Post #4057
    CMB Unit 01's Avatar
    May 2007
    1,961 Posts
    Watching this is painful:

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  18. Post #4058
    mfb412's Avatar
    September 2009
    2,277 Posts
    ...What the fuck MKP
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  19. Post #4059
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    igamiwarr's Avatar
    August 2005
    2,971 Posts
    Watching this is painful:

    I just played two games like this on my smurf account and I didn't get sick, does this mean that I should be a pilot? It was really weird but it wasn't undoable. Watching the replay with the game rightside up blew my mind though.

    Oh god now I have to get used to everything being normal again...
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  20. Post #4060
    zombojoe's Avatar
    March 2010
    7,607 Posts
    I'm streaming some crappy masters NA play atm.
    http://www.twitch.tv/zombojoe
    I'll try to alt tab as much as possible
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  21. Post #4061
    Crisis01's Avatar
    June 2010
    589 Posts
    ZOMBO I WILL SNIPE YUO ON LADDER MASTERS UNITE
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  22. Post #4062
    Fuck Your Life
    Dennab
    July 2011
    2,186 Posts
    I hate watching someone better than you, you think "I can do that". You go try it, and get raped. :>
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  23. Post #4063
    zombojoe's Avatar
    March 2010
    7,607 Posts
    I ran into Debo on the ladder and beat him.
    Replay:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38438447/Sta...Debo.SC2Replay

    I'm moving up in the starcraft world.

    Hilarious video of him and Destiny.

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  24. Post #4064
    Fuck Your Life
    Dennab
    July 2011
    2,186 Posts
    Fcking Stupid turtle cunts I fucking hate this fucking game
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  25. Post #4065
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    Xyrec's Avatar
    July 2007
    2,825 Posts
    Fcking Stupid turtle cunts I fucking hate this fucking game
    pls don't turn into the new Miigga
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  26. Post #4066
    Fuck Your Life
    Dennab
    July 2011
    2,186 Posts
    Fuck yes for Drone Rushing lmao

    Edited:

    pls don't turn into the new Miigga
    ?
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  27. Post #4067
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    Xyrec's Avatar
    July 2007
    2,825 Posts
    He keeps coming in here to shout and get mad at the game, but then he continues playing.
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  28. Post #4068
    Fuck Your Life
    Dennab
    July 2011
    2,186 Posts
    Well, after calming down, I'm going to admit I love this game lol. The only part I dont like is the turtling, and only thats because its so slow and boring.. I love the other 99% of this game.

    Just wish I could get out of Bronze rather than sitting in the top 8 playing Random lol
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  29. Post #4069
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    Xyrec's Avatar
    July 2007
    2,825 Posts
    Stick to one race, learn to macro, learn mechanics, and before you know it, you'll be platinum

    Now if only I could get myself to play so I could get out of gold
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  30. Post #4070
    Fuck Your Life
    Dennab
    July 2011
    2,186 Posts
    I stuck with Zerg for 2 seasons, pretty much dominated Bronze, basically only lost to top 8 Terrans.. Didnt get promoted.. swapped to Random.. went down for a bit (my T was awful as shit, but its almost as good as my Zerg now) now I'm sitting at Top 8 again.. my TvT is pretty eh.. I normally just go into macro mode and spam up marines lol..

    I REALLY want the Medic / Medivac avatar.. been playing 1v1 and 4v4 as Terran just for it..

    Edited:

    Whats "mechanics" I hear it a lot.. Does it just mean like, Queen injections and creep spread?
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  31. Post #4071
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    Xyrec's Avatar
    July 2007
    2,825 Posts
    Whats "mechanics" I hear it a lot.. Does it just mean like, Queen injections and creep spread?
    Yes, macro is a mechanic, micro is a mechanic. Knowing which buttons to press at the right times. Using control groups is a mechanic too.
    Morphing 18 zerglings and adding the zergling eggs to a control group would be considered a mechanic.
    Having an overall sense of what you're doing is mechanic.

    This is why pros have twice or thrice the APM of a low league player.
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  32. Post #4072
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    Empty_Shadow's Avatar
    July 2006
    8,064 Posts
    I stuck with Zerg for 2 seasons, pretty much dominated Bronze, basically only lost to top 8 Terrans.. Didnt get promoted.. swapped to Random.. went down for a bit (my T was awful as shit, but its almost as good as my Zerg now) now I'm sitting at Top 8 again.. my TvT is pretty eh.. I normally just go into macro mode and spam up marines lol..

    I REALLY want the Medic / Medivac avatar.. been playing 1v1 and 4v4 as Terran just for it..

    Edited:

    Whats "mechanics" I hear it a lot.. Does it just mean like, Queen injections and creep spread?
    Watch some streams, I recommend newbie tuesdays on day9.tv
    You sound like you're not pushing yourself to improve, that's the problem 90% of bronzes who can't get out of bronze have. You say you're losing to top 8 bronzes, those people are HORRIBLE. You'r ein bronze, you're probably really bad at SC2, and that's okay. The first step is realizing what you do poorly. Isolate something you do wrong, then work on it. Macro is an important place to start, google some one base zerg builds (not 6pools, stuff like fast baneling busts, roach rushes etc.) then just try and hammer them out perfectly, once you get really confident with a build and you can pull it off perfectly, try messing with it. What happens if instead of attacking with 8 roaches like the build says, you wait for 12 roaches? What if you take an expo and use the roaches to defend rather than attack etc.

    Main thing is just work on macro, a fun little minigame to play occasionally is to reach 200/200 supply in workers as fast as possible, without an opponent. You won't learn any build orders off it, but you'll learn how to manage injects/mules/expansions etc a lot better.

    It really seems to me you arent focussing on improving, you just lose to a top 8 bronze and go "oh he was better than me I guess i lost because of that". That's the WRONG line of thought, look at the replay, see what you did wrong, see what you could have done differently, next time try and make those changes. Most of all, try and speed up, memorize hotkeys.

    Also stick to one race for a while, don't go random until probably gold league at the EARLIEST. Playing random will slow your initial learning because you have to learn 3 macro styles simultaneously and when you want to be practicing one element of the game you probably won't get the race you need to practice it on. E.G. if you're practicing marine control and you keep rolling zerg that's useless to you since you're distracting your focus.
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  33. Post #4073
    muna pilu ah ah
    -Jake-'s Avatar
    August 2008
    975 Posts
    If you get mad you just shouldn't play. That just might make you even angrier and make you do bad decisions that make you lose games. Play only when you want to play
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  34. Post #4074
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    Empty_Shadow's Avatar
    July 2006
    8,064 Posts
    I find a good strategy is every 4 or 5 games just do something really dumb for the lols.
    Helps relieve stress and lets you work out new strategies, e.g. pure ghost army. You don't have any of the pressure of losing either because you're just fucking about and don't care if you lose.
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  35. Post #4075
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    Gray Altoid's Avatar
    March 2008
    1,410 Posts
    Fcking Stupid turtle cunts I fucking hate this fucking game
    If they're turtling, you've got map control, and can comfortably expand. You can pressure them constantly thanks to your vastly superior economy.
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  36. Post #4076
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    RichardCQ's Avatar
    June 2006
    1,942 Posts
    Man, I just went against a terran who got me with a 3 medivac m/m drop at my main. I had reacted to his heavy marauders by going early 3base 3robo immortal/stalker but I figured I'd go all in as he medivac dropped my third. I walked into his base with 9 immortals, 10 stalkers versus his 20 marauders and ~5 marines (out of position as they were at my third when I got to his base). I didn't actually lose any immortals and I only lost 1 stalker. He lost his entire army and his main was mined out.
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  37. Post #4077
    Fuck Your Life
    Dennab
    July 2011
    2,186 Posts
    If they're turtling, you've got map control, and can comfortably expand. You can pressure them constantly thanks to your vastly superior economy.
    I beat Turtles :)
    Just annoys my because it takes me like 30 minutes to do it.
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  38. Post #4078
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    Xyrec's Avatar
    July 2007
    2,825 Posts
    Terran is actually Latin for Turtle!

    Edited:

    Also, I gotta man up and actually play the game.
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  39. Post #4079
    Gold Member
    wraithcat's Avatar
    December 2007
    12,644 Posts
    Terran is actually Latin for Turtle!

    Edited:

    Also, I gotta man up and actually play the game.
    No it's not. But it's based of the latin name for Earth - Terra.

    So terran do have a high probability of digging in into the ground:P
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  40. Post #4080
    If this a joke, not funny. If it's not a joke, Gmod is ruined. It was fun because it was free, I will never pay $10 for a sandbox game. No matter what new stuff you put in there.
    strider's Avatar
    January 2005
    25,116 Posts
    Faced a dude who claimed he was master in Korea, he was diamond on EU (where I faced him).

    Once he was dead he started complaining protoss was OP. So I said yes, if a EU diamond protoss can beat a Korean Masters Terran, I guess the race is OP. He then started to curse and ragequit.

    I very much doubt his story about Korea.
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