1. Post #1
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    Native Hunter's Avatar
    August 2011
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    looking back Communism has been seen all over the world Russia, China, North Korea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Cuba, Eastern Europe, Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, and some of southern Africa.

    My question is will it come back. You see political demonstrations all the time but is it possible that Communism will be on the rise again?

  2. Post #2
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    Dennab
    January 2012
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    Hmm possibly due to economic breakdown, but i see more socialism breaking through then communism

  3. Post #3
    I wish I had a tentacle hand. Japan would pay billions for some real-life tentacles.
    Bokito's Avatar
    February 2009
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    Some countries might adopt the ideology again, but I don't see it as very likely. Then again, even if it does become the main ideology of a few countries, there's no problem with that.

  4. Post #4
    NeonpieDFTBA's Avatar
    January 2012
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    Communism would work better in a small community. In countries it fails because it is not employed properly.

  5. Post #5
    I hate US Marines
    Itsjustguy's Avatar
    July 2009
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    I better fucking hope it says dead with all the other shitty ideas that people made.

  6. Post #6
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
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    Maybe, but not Marxist communism. Everyone knows that doesn't work.

  7. Post #7
    I wish I had a tentacle hand. Japan would pay billions for some real-life tentacles.
    Bokito's Avatar
    February 2009
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    While communism isn't necessarily a bad idea, it's almost impossible to execute properly on a fairly big scale. While capitalism has it's flaws as well, at least it works.

  8. Post #8
    Antdawg's Avatar
    July 2010
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    Ideas of socialism are becoming increasingly popular in younger generations, I wouldn't be surprised in the future if socialist revolutions occured which may get hijacked by communists though.

  9. Post #9
    Ifeernobeer's Avatar
    March 2011
    6 Posts
    I'd be very surprised if any extreme left or right political parties gain power in the majority of western countries. Nowadays it's more about pleasing the mid-politics

  10. Post #10
    Thoughtless's Avatar
    September 2011
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    Ideas of socialism are becoming increasingly popular in younger generations, I wouldn't be surprised in the future if socialist revolutions occured which may get hijacked by communists though.
    To be fair, most of the people I know who support communism would be quite happy with more socialism.

  11. Post #11
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    June 2009
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    Hmm possibly due to economic breakdown, but i see more socialism breaking through then communism
    Socialism is just a stage of 'social evolution' on the 'path to Communism' in Marxist theory. Furthermore it was socialism and the dictatorship of the proletariat phases combined that the USSR, China, Cuba and all of the other 'Communist' countries in the world (past or present) have been/are stuck in.

    Maybe, but not Marxist communism. Everyone knows that doesn't work.
    What is non-Marxist Communism? Please explain because you've got me completely stumped.

  12. Post #12
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    Not for a while, especially after the extreme anti-communist movement in the US.

  13. Post #13
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    December 2005
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    Ideas of socialism are becoming increasingly popular in younger generations, I wouldn't be surprised in the future if socialist revolutions occured which may get hijacked by communists though.
    "Popular" as in a bunch of kids trying to be rebellious and wearing communism related shirts that bought at Hot Topic? I don't really see communism coming back because all the leaders that try to use it usually end up fucking it up to the point that the people revolt.

  14. Post #14
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    August 2011
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    Socialism is just a stage of 'social evolution' on the 'path to Communism' in Marxist theory. Furthermore it was socialism and the dictatorship of the proletariat phases combined that the USSR, China, Cuba and all of the other 'Communist' countries in the world (past or present) have been/are stuck in.

    Anarcho-Communism don't ask me to explain because it is to long and complicated

    What is non-Marxist Communism? Please explain because you've got me completely stumped.
    Anarco-communism but don't ask me to explain it because it is way to long and complicated

  15. Post #15
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    January 2012
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    Pure Communism could never possibly survive in a mostly capitalist world. The nations that use communism to the fullest extent would be much farther behind in innovation than the capitalist nations where people who are the most creative and most innovative can be millionaires and billionaires for their inventions. So, in short, no pure capitalism cannot survive. However, Socialism, a dubbed down version of communism can in fact work out.

  16. Post #16
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    April 2011
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    Depends on which form of communism. But if you piss off enough to people and make there life like shit its possible for any type of political ideology to make a return. Pure communism should be left out on default as its a utopia.

  17. Post #17
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
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    Socialism is just a stage of 'social evolution' on the 'path to Communism' in Marxist theory. Furthermore it was socialism and the dictatorship of the proletariat phases combined that the USSR, China, Cuba and all of the other 'Communist' countries in the world (past or present) have been/are stuck in.



    What is non-Marxist Communism? Please explain because you've got me completely stumped.
    sorry, I meant Marxist Socialism. All communism is the same.

  18. Post #18
    Dennab
    January 2012
    270 Posts
    real marxism rejects the ideas of borders/nations/governments, so no.

  19. Post #19
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
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    real marxism rejects the ideas of borders/nations/governments, so no.
    real marxism isn't the only solution though.

    (I am assuming that the OP means socialism, since there has never been and never will be a communist country)

  20. Post #20
    Head over heels in love with Pudding~
    Dennab
    January 2012
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    Communism for a small community would work well if you can get someone who isn't a huge douchebag to direct stuff. Aren't there still communist countries around?

  21. Post #21
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
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    Communism for a small community would work well if you can get someone who isn't a huge douchebag to direct stuff. Aren't there still communist countries around?
    Cuba is socialist, all the others died, I believe.

  22. Post #22
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    December 2009
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    Depends on what you mean by communism. If you simply mean an economy that doesn't use money then of course.

  23. Post #23
    The Knights's Avatar
    January 2012
    24 Posts
    It is a fact that communism is slowly rising in the white house. It made a major jump when Obama made president in 2008, but with the communism rising there are also many who stand against it like any good patriotic American should. I don't believe we have anything to worry about as long as Americans take a stand for their country.

  24. Post #24
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
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    It is a fact that communism is slowly rising in the white house. It made a major jump when Obama made president in 2008, but with the communism rising there are also many who stand against it like any good patriotic American should. I don't believe we have anything to worry about as long as Americans take a stand for their country.
    How the hell is Obama communist? if you want to hate on democrats, atleast target the right man. (Hint: he is arguably the most loved president in U.S. History).

  25. Post #25
    HUGE RACIST
    TH89's Avatar
    January 2005
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    How the hell is Obama communist? if you want to hate on democrats, atleast target the right man. (Hint: he is arguably the most loved president in U.S. History).
    Taft?

  26. Post #26
    The Knights's Avatar
    January 2012
    24 Posts
    How the hell is Obama communist? if you want to hate on democrats, atleast target the right man. (Hint: he is arguably the most loved president in U.S. History).
    I am not hating anyone. I am simply pointing out facts.

    1. Obama's Father Wrote About Socialism - His father wrote a paper called "Problems With Our Socialism" that advocates 100% taxation of the rich, communal ownership of land and the forced confiscation of privately controlled land. Source: Greg Ransom, PrestoPundit

    2. Obama's Mother Was a "Communist Sympathizer" - " Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report" Source: Spengler, Asia Times "The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics - Barack Obama" Source: Tim Jones, Chicago Tribune

    3. Obama's Parents Met in a Russian Class (Back then it was the Communist USSR) - "His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (her father always wanted a son), was white and just 18 when they met in a Russian class" Source: Sharon Cohen, St Louis Times

    4. Obama's Teen Mentor was Frank Marshall Davis (a known CPUSA member) - "...through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his poetry and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just Frank." Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media "Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979" Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)

    5. Obama's Brother Roy and Cousin Odinga are Marxists - "Barack Obama's older brother, Abongo "Roy" Obama. He is a Luo activist. militant Muslim and a Marxist." Source: Barbara Busby, 180people.com “The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy Source: Bill Sammon, The Examiner "Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country" Source: Invenstor's Business Daily

    6. Obama Attended Socialist Conferences at Cooper Union - "He went to socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn and started lecturing his relatives until they worried he'd become "one of those freaks you see on the streets around here." Source: H Kennedy, NY Daily News

    7. Obama Was Hand Picked by Alice Palmer to Succeed Her in the Illinois State Senate - "Nine years before Palmer picked Obama to be her successor, she was the only African-American journalist to travel to the Soviet Union to attend the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, according to an article Palmer wrote in the CPUSA newspaper, People's Daily World, June 19, 1986." Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)

    8. Obama's Run for the Illinois State Senate was Launched by a Fundraiser Organized at Bill Ayers' and Bernardine Dorhn's Chicago Home - Ayers and Dorhn are former terrorists from the Weather Underground who's SDS organization received financial contributions from the CPUSA. "Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Ayers' and Dorhn's Chicago home by Alice Palmer. Palmer had named Obama to succeed her in the state Senate in 1995, when she decided to run for a U.S. congressional seat." Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)




    9. Obama Had a Close Relationship with the "Anti-Capitalist" Group ACORN - "Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn)...Chicago Acorn appears to have played a major role in Obama’s political advance...Acorn’s radical agenda sometimes shifts toward “undisguised authoritarian socialism.” Source: Stanley Kurtz, National Review

    10. Obama Attended Several Meetings with the Democratic Socialists in Chicago and Was even Endorsed by Them - "Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored." Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media "In its broadest sense, democratic socialism could refer to any attempts to bring about socialism through democratic means as opposed to violent insurrection." Source: Wikipedia

  27. Post #27
    imasillypiggy's Avatar
    December 2009
    8,851 Posts
    It is a fact that communism is slowly rising in the white house. It made a major jump when Obama made president in 2008, but with the communism rising there are also many who stand against it like any good patriotic American should. I don't believe we have anything to worry about as long as Americans take a stand for their country.
    Looks like a troll to me. Avatar and all that.

  28. Post #28
    The Union Jack would look a shit ton better with a Hammer and Sickle in the middle of it
    Bobie's Avatar
    November 2007
    7,262 Posts
    communism and marxism is very dated; it was designed to fit it's era. the next generation of left wing politics emerges from the liberal aspect of things nowadays and likely whenever a radical change takes place it will be an evolution of any political system we know of today.

  29. Post #29
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
    1,353 Posts
    I am not hating anyone. I am simply pointing out facts.

    1. Obama's Father Wrote About Socialism - His father wrote a paper called "Problems With Our Socialism" that advocates 100% taxation of the rich, communal ownership of land and the forced confiscation of privately controlled land. Source: Greg Ransom, PrestoPundit

    2. Obama's Mother Was a "Communist Sympathizer" - " Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report" Source: Spengler, Asia Times "The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics - Barack Obama" Source: Tim Jones, Chicago Tribune

    3. Obama's Parents Met in a Russian Class (Back then it was the Communist USSR) - "His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (her father always wanted a son), was white and just 18 when they met in a Russian class" Source: Sharon Cohen, St Louis Times

    4. Obama's Teen Mentor was Frank Marshall Davis (a known CPUSA member) - "...through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his poetry and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just Frank." Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media "Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979" Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)

    5. Obama's Brother Roy and Cousin Odinga are Marxists - "Barack Obama's older brother, Abongo "Roy" Obama. He is a Luo activist. militant Muslim and a Marxist." Source: Barbara Busby, 180people.com “The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy Source: Bill Sammon, The Examiner "Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country" Source: Invenstor's Business Daily

    6. Obama Attended Socialist Conferences at Cooper Union - "He went to socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn and started lecturing his relatives until they worried he'd become "one of those freaks you see on the streets around here." Source: H Kennedy, NY Daily News

    7. Obama Was Hand Picked by Alice Palmer to Succeed Her in the Illinois State Senate - "Nine years before Palmer picked Obama to be her successor, she was the only African-American journalist to travel to the Soviet Union to attend the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, according to an article Palmer wrote in the CPUSA newspaper, People's Daily World, June 19, 1986." Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)

    8. Obama's Run for the Illinois State Senate was Launched by a Fundraiser Organized at Bill Ayers' and Bernardine Dorhn's Chicago Home - Ayers and Dorhn are former terrorists from the Weather Underground who's SDS organization received financial contributions from the CPUSA. "Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Ayers' and Dorhn's Chicago home by Alice Palmer. Palmer had named Obama to succeed her in the state Senate in 1995, when she decided to run for a U.S. congressional seat." Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)




    9. Obama Had a Close Relationship with the "Anti-Capitalist" Group ACORN - "Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn)...Chicago Acorn appears to have played a major role in Obama’s political advance...Acorn’s radical agenda sometimes shifts toward “undisguised authoritarian socialism.” Source: Stanley Kurtz, National Review

    10. Obama Attended Several Meetings with the Democratic Socialists in Chicago and Was even Endorsed by Them - "Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored." Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media "In its broadest sense, democratic socialism could refer to any attempts to bring about socialism through democratic means as opposed to violent insurrection." Source: Wikipedia
    90% is unrelated. it doesn't matter if his brothers were socialists, it matters if he is. And ACORN is not anti-capitalist. And what actual laws has he passed that were communist in nature?

    P.S. The President is FDR. I mean seriously, he created the U.S. welfare system. Yet everyone attacks Obama.

    Edited:

    Looks like a troll to me. Avatar and all that.
    most likely.

  30. Post #30
    HUGE RACIST
    TH89's Avatar
    January 2005
    16,350 Posts
    Based on the PMs he has been sending me I'm gonna guess he's the genuine article.

    They do exist, you know.

  31. Post #31
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    May 2005
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    Communism for a small community would work well if you can get someone who isn't a huge douchebag to direct stuff. Aren't there still communist countries around?
    China, Cuba, Vietnam, and Laos

  32. Post #32
    The Knights's Avatar
    January 2012
    24 Posts
    90% is unrelated. it doesn't matter if his brothers were socialists, it matters if he is. And ACORN is not anti-capitalist. And what actual laws has he passed that were communist in nature?
    You can't simply make "communist laws". You work towards it, appointing czars and people with similar beliefs in different positions of interest. A lot of which Obama has done illegal. He had a plan to subvert the constitution and build our nation an imperial presidency.

    Stating that the above is unrelated is extremely biased. As the saying goes, "You are who you hang out with".

  33. Post #33
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
    1,353 Posts
    China, Cuba, Vietnam, and Laos
    China isn't communist anymore.

    Edited:

    You can't simply make "communist laws". You work towards it, appointing czars and people with similar beliefs in different positions of interest. A lot of which Obama has done illegal. He had a plan to subvert the constitution and build our nation an imperial presidency.

    Stating that the above is unrelated is extremely biased. As the saying goes, "You are who you hang out with".
    How are Czars communist, at all? Yes the word Czar is a weird choice, but it's not communist, and it's not illegal. Any proof of his "subversion" and "imperial presidency"?

    Well by your logic, I'm a conservative. Weird, I thought I was a liberal.

  34. Post #34
    Not that bad of a seed
    asteroidrules's Avatar
    January 2011
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    Maybe, somethings going to happen without a doubt, but I'd say anarchy is more likely.

  35. Post #35
    The Kakistocrat's Avatar
    November 2011
    1,353 Posts
    Maybe, somethings going to happen without a doubt, but I'd say anarchy is more likely.
    maybe in the FAR future.

  36. Post #36
    The Knights's Avatar
    January 2012
    24 Posts
    Czars are not communist related, but it is illegal in a way. A president is not allowed to appoint an ambassador. It is illegal, so they appoint czars. Sure, past presidents have appointed them. The difference is Obama has appointed over 30 of them, while others usually only had 2. I am implying that is is his way of breaking the law, or bending it in a way.

    I am not some ignorant fool posting on this site. The sounding of a word means nothing to me. I am a member of an organization that works towards a nationalist movement.

  37. Post #37
    imasillypiggy's Avatar
    December 2009
    8,851 Posts
    Communism for a small community would work well if you can get someone who isn't a huge douchebag to direct stuff. Aren't there still communist countries around?
    I never understood why people say this. In a small community there would be no way to create specialized products and you have to buy resources from other communities with money.

  38. Post #38
    MEGA SENPAI KAWAII UGUU~~ =^_^=
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    You can't simply make "communist laws". You work towards it, appointing czars and people with similar beliefs in different positions of interest. A lot of which Obama has done illegal. He had a plan to subvert the constitution and build our nation an imperial presidency.

    Stating that the above is unrelated is extremely biased. As the saying goes, "You are who you hang out with".
    The czars are nothing if not fairly standard advisors, that have been around for quite some time, even Reagan had them. Now if you're going to claim that they're still 'communist in nature', then that means that the cabinet is Communist, all advisory committees are Communist, and any other staff that even recommends legislation is Communist.

  39. Post #39
    imasillypiggy's Avatar
    December 2009
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    Maybe, somethings going to happen without a doubt, but I'd say anarchy is more likely.
    Communism is a type of anarchy.

  40. Post #40
    MEGA SENPAI KAWAII UGUU~~ =^_^=
    Megafan's Avatar
    September 2008
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    China, Cuba, Vietnam, and Laos
    China can hardly be called Communist, the last Maoist commune closed down some time ago. The other 3 are arguable, but would be better characterized as totalitarian rather than Communist.

    Edited:

    Czars are not communist related, but it is illegal in a way. A president is not allowed to appoint an ambassador. It is illegal, so they appoint czars. Sure, past presidents have appointed them. The difference is Obama has appointed over 30 of them, while others usually only had 2. I am implying that is is his way of breaking the law, or bending it in a way.
    Except that czars are not ambassadors?