[Zadrave]

So... there's no Saxxies?

[Croshi]

Zadrave posted:

So... there's no Saxxies?

Well not yet

They can't just cancel an annual event after the first year and not say anything

[BoxinShrimp]

Croshi posted:

Well not yet

They can't just cancel an annual event after the first year and not say anything

They can, but a lot of people would be pissed.

[Maruhai]

BoxinShrimp posted:

They can, but a lot of people would be pissed.

It will cause too much trouble for them to cancel it, it's almost like they're forced.

[Grimhound]

BoxinShrimp posted:

They can, but a lot of people would be pissed.

People are going to be pissed no matter what they do.

[slapdown3]

I always get overly optimistic when the end of the week is here and we finally get a new item.
I'm always sitting here hoping it will be a new weapon and not a shifty reskin or a hat/misc, not that I don't like having six bajillion hats but gameplay gets dull fast for me.

Grimhound posted:

People are going to be pissed no matter what they do.

I need a 10+ Agree button.

[Kapellmeister]

Anyone who thinks that Cozy Camper is a better item than Fast Learner just because it's a weapon is a poohead.

[Constructor]

Kapellmeister posted:

Anyone who thinks that Cozy Camper is a better item than Fast Learner just because it's a weapon is a poohead.

It's like a third misc for sniper.

[Captain Chalky]

Kapellmeister posted:

Anyone who thinks that Cozy Camper is a better item than Fast Learner just because it's a weapon is a poohead.

But Cozy Camper is a better item because it's a weapon. New weapons are always better than hats/miscs.

[royaldanney]

I'd take a weapon over a hat/misc anytime just because it's more accessible. Even if it's not the right one for my playstyle I was able to test it out which freshens up things a little bit.
To get the hat, I need to pay 7.49 or some ridiculously high amount of ingame items.

[Thatrandomuser]

Captain Chalky posted:

But Cozy Camper is a better item because it's a weapon. New weapons are always better than hats/miscs.

He might mean aesthetically. But even then there's always a sea of opinions out there. I think the Cozy Camper is a well made item which deserved to get ingame, and was unfortunent to be butchered by valve's re-texture. Though personally as a weapon it's rather useless, because any sniper worth his snuff NEEDS to be able to be agile even while scoped.

[Robmortar]

Thatrandomuser posted:

He might mean aesthetically. But even then there's always a sea of opinions out there. I think the Cozy Camper is a well made item which deserved to get ingame, and was unfortunent to be butchered by valve's re-texture. Though personally as a weapon it's rather useless, because any sniper worth his snuff NEEDS to be able to be agile even while scoped.

who needs agility when you can just park right up to a dispenser

[royaldanney]

Thatrandomuser posted:

He might mean aesthetically. But even then there's always a sea of opinions out there. I think the Cozy Camper is a well made item which deserved to get ingame, and was unfortunent to be butchered by valve's re-texture. Though personally as a weapon it's rather useless, because any sniper worth his snuff NEEDS to be able to be agile even while scoped.

I strafe around when I'm unscoped and zoom in just before I shoot. If you're scoped for longer than 2 seconds any sniper worth his snuff should have already killed you, no matter how slow you're moving / not moving while scoped.

[J-RcZ]

Everybody keeps saying "We need new weapons"

I think not. We already have enough weapons.

[Totenkreuz]

royaldanney posted:

I strafe around when I'm unscoped and zoom in just before I shoot. If you're scoped for longer than 2 seconds any sniper worth his snuff should have already killed you, no matter how slow you're moving / not moving while scoped.

Any sniper worth his snuff knows he'll face more than just counter snipers and that the camper does more harm than good.

[SLBros.]

Croshi posted:

Ekanaut, Super MNC Dev's 2 cents on the promo:

"Don't get all over hyped, you'll only be disappointed."

(because people on the SMNC forum thought it was gonna be a new Pro.)

If I was right about the Superfan and the Athletic Supporter, people won't just be disappointed

[royaldanney]

Totenkreuz posted:

Any sniper worth his snuff knows he'll face more than just counter snipers and that the camper does more harm than good.

Okay, there are many snipers worth their snuff. We're done with that. But anyway, my opinion is that you shouldn't stand still as a sniper, ever. Be it scoped or unscoped. So there's where we agree. To be honest, the Cozy Camper may be an innovative concept, but I just don't like the bland way it goes. It literally forces you to camp, which is a hated attitude in like all games.

[Kapellmeister]

People never cease to amaze me. A guy said that "Cozy Camper should've been a misc, not a weapon" and immediately after says that "they should stop adding hats and miscs and start adding more weapons".

[Constructor]

Backpack miscs for sniper would be like boot miscs for demo and soldier. Oh wait..

[GLH]

royaldanney posted:

It literally forces you to camp, which is a hated attitude in like all games.

Cozy CAMPER

Nice job figuring that out.

[ironman17]

Y'know, i've been wondering; with all these cosmetics, the hats and miscs, do you think that the next step forward in cosmetic customisation would be character skins, or would that make it harder to judge whether a guy is RED or BLU? Colour-changes outside of different shades of red and blue wouldn't be viable for that reason, but having different textures, like an Engineer wearing a team-coloured shirt that looks like flannel, or the ever-famous Stylish Spy, would that work?

[Grimhound]

Here's to this week being the week.

[ned_ballad]

uh-oh
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/05/446...ames-with.html

if the US follows suit... this would affect TF2

[SLBros.]

ned_ballad posted:

uh-oh
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/05/446...ames-with.html

if the US follows suit... this would affect TF2

So...
No more Dueler/GMFGL/Philateler, uncraftable Vita-Saws and shit?

[royaldanney]

GLH posted:

Nice job figuring that out.

You know what literally means? yeah

[Eriorguez]

ned_ballad posted:

uh-oh
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/05/446...ames-with.html

if the US follows suit... this would affect TF2

Japan is quite odd in terms of morals anyway.

[Grimhound]

ned_ballad posted:

uh-oh
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/05/446...ames-with.html

if the US follows suit... this would affect TF2

Only crates, really. The $20 purchase thing, maybe.

[ned_ballad]

Grimhound posted:

Only crates.

and the perdiem hats

[Constructor]

-snip-

[Kegan]

ned_ballad posted:

and the perdiem hats

But those are complete eyesores anyway

[J-RcZ]

ned_ballad posted:

uh-oh
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/05/446...ames-with.html

if the US follows suit... this would affect TF2

Oh god, the economy would turn it self upside down.

[AlfieSR]

ned_ballad posted:

and the perdiem hats

TF2 doesn't make you pay for many prizes, does it? I can only think of the mapstamps hats.

[J-RcZ]

AlfieSR posted:

TF2 doesn't make you pay for many prizes, does it? I can only think of the mapstamps hats.

The Dueler, Gifting Man From Gifting Land, Philateler, unusuals, stranges.....

[ned_ballad]

AlfieSR posted:

TF2 doesn't make you pay for many prizes, does it? I can only think of the mapstamps hats.

The gifting one can't be gotten without buying either as gifts don't drop. The only way to get a gift is to buy it or get it as a gift, so the chain has to start with someone making a purchase.

The dueler is the only one that is perfectly reasonable to obtain without buying, as dueling tokens drop fairly regularly.

[AlfieSR]

All of those can be traded for, which technically bides them unnaffected by that law, doesn't it?

Edited:

And unusuals are gotten by unlocking a crate, not by buying an amount of keys.

[ned_ballad]

AlfieSR posted:

And unusuals are gotten by unlocking a crate, not by buying an amount of keys.

the gambling aspect is the major portion of that new law.

However, just adding stranges and unusuals to the drop system with a very, very, very minor chance to get them would probably be a loophole, since they would no longer be "luck from purchase only" They could also argue every item in the crate is worth at least 2.50. That would make it okay also.

[J-RcZ]

ned_ballad posted:

the gambling aspect is the major portion of that new law.

However, just adding stranges and unusuals to the drop system with a very, very, very minor chance to get them would probably be a loophole, since they would no longer be "luck from purchase only" They could also argue every item in the crate is worth at least 2.50. That would make it okay also.

Oh god, dropping unusuals. My god, that would be amazing

[Constructor]

Like a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001% chance.

[HazzaHardie]

J-RcZ posted:

Oh god, dropping unusuals. My god, that would be amazing

but then they would be worth less which will mean it wont be so awesome to have one

[J-RcZ]

HazzaHardie posted:

but then they would be worth less which will mean it wont be so awesome to have one

Sweetheart, I love how they look, not how much they cost.