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Egad, that new logo looks like poo. It's such a modernized version of the logo that takes away the personality of the original logo, and even more so, the colors, which only seems to leave the end-user with an odd looking window key, that is just, well, depressing.
I mean, I prefer the strange solid blue windows logos to this thing any-day.
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I decided to round up a compilation of customization tools for Windows 8; Stay thirsty my friends.
My personal favorite: Metro UI Tweaker
Windows Logon
Background Changer (designed for Windows 7, but fully compatible with Windows 8)
Windows 8 Start Menu Switcher
Windows 8 Start Tweaker
Windows 8 Blue Poison
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Yes, I remember the marketing bullshit too. The walled garden is fine because this PC is called a tablet rather than a PC, yaddy yadda.
Too bad only the techies realize that it's a superficial difference used as an excuse to put unneeded restrictions on those "devices".
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Hopefully that is just the "Home" button design and not the Windows logo, The flat shaded Windows Logo looks amazing
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Is it really just boiling down to Apple marketing for everyone? Are you just being that resistive? Nobody sees where the market as a whole is going? Has anyone considered that maybe the vast majority of people, including the average computer owner, would much prefer a single mobile device that's capable of everything their old PC was? (This excludes the enterprise and gamers.) With a slicker, easier UI (laptops won't be obsolete just yet, but this will eat up a lot of their market share), much more efficient power consumption, capable of fitting in an area the size of a thin paper notebook?
All that's needed are slim, wireless keyboards and mice for tablets from various manufacturers and most of the switch will be complete. It would've been completely unnatural for the tower-based PC to remain the de facto standard when we can always just carry one computer with us anywhere. Microsoft understands that. The old order doesn't. People are clingy.
Soon enough, you'll be denouncing the generation of computers following the tablet and smartphone as rootin'-tootin' high-falutin' voodoo machines, and won't understand why those damned kids don't think they're terrible. Hope you like the taste of dust.
Edit: It's so easy to boil down to marketing precisely because it is. But it's all true. Steve Jobs and a few other industry luminaries from various companies knew where the industry was headed, despite the already the ho-hum nature of tablet PC's. The race was to see who could get there first and break the market barrier, and take advantage of the lead position. Apple won.
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I'm looking forward to W8! :D
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I'm sorry if I am dumb but I am going to try out the OS on my main computer, will it keep all of my files?
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So long as you don't format the drive. Set up a new partition and dual boot instead, that way if you don't like it you could just boot back into 7.
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I've had it on my virtual box, I love it so far and even if I wanna go back to 7 I have the CD for it on my top shelf so no worries with dual booting. I wasn't intending to format anyway
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Okay, I have a question gentlemen.
I have downloaded the developer release, but my flashdrive is .01 GB too small to make it media to allow me to dualboot. Is it even worth installing this over windows 7 or should I wait until I find something large enough to carry it to install it for a dualboot?
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The Consumer Preview would probably be worth installing over Win7. It comes out in like 2 weeks.
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Why am I getting this?
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It says right there that it's a bad image. Compare the MD5 checksums, but I think you need to download a new image. Yours seems corrupted somehow.
Why am I getting this?
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Eh I'll wait for the consumer version
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My Windows 8 DP installation is slowly killing itself. I have to wait for the Consumer Preview before I reinstall, just so I don't have to do it twice.
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Hope they added better drivers to Consumer Preview. On DP my net was shitting itself, couldn't get it to work for more than a few minutes. :(
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I can't even click my Wireless bars in the tasktray, clicking them does nothing, so I'm stuck using the shitty WLAN utility by Ralink. :/
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Man, quit the licking, no need to get your tongue this freaking brown. I wasn't even talking about Apple, I just reused the Walled Garden term.
All I'm saying is that allowing artificial restrictions on a device just because it's named "Tablet" rather than "PC" is silly. It's silly when you use that excuse to lock it down. Now, if you want to sell a different experience like Apple does, then sure! It -can- benefit the customer (even if I think Apple's model is very far from a good model of doing that), and they should know what they get into when they buy the device. And it's not a dumb restriction like "This runs ARM and MS is scared of Linux on ARM! So err lock it!" So 100% fine by me.
Really, being resistive? And somehow I don't understand smartphones and tablets because they're new?
Honestly man, just because contrary to most of this forum some of us' balls have dropped doesn't mean we're old farts who refuse to understand tablets and smartphones. I own a smart phone, and when a tablet I consider good comes out, I might buy it.
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Where you using Windows 7's drivers or those testing drivers made specifically for 8?
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Resistive is no where near as good as Capacitive
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8's drivers. I tried transferring the drivers from 7 but it said they were older version.
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Depends on the case, Resistive is overall more accurate, cheaper and more durable than capacitive, Whereas capacitive can give 'softer' touches and making it unable to use with anything other than a finger
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/14/m...indows-8-apps/
Notice how the logo on the button is the "normal" one, and not the shitfest on the last page.
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Visual Studio 11 Beta looks really nice yet boring.
It's interesting I said the same thing as the person below me yet everyone disagrees with me and agrees with him.
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It's really nice, besides that light grey color making it look incredibly dull.
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I wish it had more life in it. Zune software in the list view is primarily white, though with some subtle colors behind it, which makes it look really nice, yet still Metro-y, but this grey in the Mail app, Office 15, and now Visual Studio 11 just looks bland and dull. It's lifeless.
I'm surprised at how consistently inconsistent Microsoft's design team for Windows is.
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It mainly looks boring because it's just a metro theme slapped on the old toolbar layout etc. I'm not saying VS should get a new layout, I don't really want them to mess with it since it works - but it's not really proper metro since you still can't use drop down menus on a touch screen etc. And, seeing as Metro is supposed to focus on Typography, there is a definite lack of nice typography that there normally is in Metro applications.Visual Studio 11 Beta looks really nice yet boring.
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That button is gone in future builds.
Not only that, but branding is like one of the last things that gets done with Windows.
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The video was recorded 8 days ago, probably with a even older build, The new logo leak is just from some few days ago, Who knows
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Making the accessibility better for the impaired:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...ssibility.aspx
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The new magnifier looks like shit. It's so bland. Why do they even need scroll bars when there is simple pinch to zoom?
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Application gesture conflict I would assume.
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Where's the beta?
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Not everyone has a tablet, genius.
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How do you pinch to zoom on your keyboard? I tried and it doesn't work.
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He's talking about the scroll bars with a touch screen not with a keyboard. As it was demonstrated in the video.
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Nobody I know owns a single device with a touchscreen, beyond their phone. Touchscreens and tablets are a FAD, and I can't wait for them to be over with. Not to mention, I can't envision anyone using their home PC by fingering the fuck out of their LCD.
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What?
We were talking about the changes to magnifier.
Jimmy was asking why magnifier looked like this with the 4 scrollbars when there is pinch to zoom. The scrollbars are only for touch, a point which apparently you a gparent missed.
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Also: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Windows8
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What? Resistive is no where near as accurate as capacitive, it's far cheaper and works well with detecting objects and through clothing but capacitive supports up to five touch points sometimes more and because it works by conductivity you just need to get a stylus designed for them and you can also get gloves designed to work with it as well.
And if not applied well resistive can have big problems with sensing such as on one type of Android tablets I was selling the stupid thing would jump and even detect at a totally different point on the screen, but with capacitive Tablets and phones there's been no problem.
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I would like to try windows 8 but is it worth to dual-boot my computer with windows 7 and windows 8?
Don't have any other computer that is good enough then my main desktop.
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