1. Post #161
    Gold Member
    Colton Rappe's Avatar
    August 2006
    1,038 Posts
    Egad, that new logo looks like poo. It's such a modernized version of the logo that takes away the personality of the original logo, and even more so, the colors, which only seems to leave the end-user with an odd looking window key, that is just, well, depressing.

    I mean, I prefer the strange solid blue windows logos to this thing any-day.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 6 (list)

  2. Post #162
    P320's Avatar
    September 2011
    957 Posts
    I decided to round up a compilation of customization tools for Windows 8; Stay thirsty my friends.


    [release]

    My personal favorite: Metro UI Tweaker









    Windows Logon

    Background Changer
    (designed for Windows 7, but fully compatible with Windows 8)








    Windows 8 Start Menu Switcher








    Windows 8 Start Tweaker








    Windows 8 Blue Poison

    [/release]
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events Useful Useful x 6Funny Funny x 2 (list)

  3. Post #163
    Gold Member
    gparent's Avatar
    January 2005
    3,949 Posts
    The tablet market is being treated as a device rather than PC. Remember, part of Steve Jobs' "post PC" era crap was how his laptops and desktops are not devices rather than PC's.
    Yes, I remember the marketing bullshit too. The walled garden is fine because this PC is called a tablet rather than a PC, yaddy yadda.

    Too bad only the techies realize that it's a superficial difference used as an excuse to put unneeded restrictions on those "devices".
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  4. Post #164
    Gold Member
    Sam Za Nemesis's Avatar
    November 2007
    5,372 Posts
    Who here agrees with me when I say I think this supposedly new Windows logo looks awful?

    http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/172476.htm
    Hopefully that is just the "Home" button design and not the Windows logo, The flat shaded Windows Logo looks amazing
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Brazil Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  5. Post #165
    Gold Member
    nERVEcenter's Avatar
    April 2006
    755 Posts
    Yes, I remember the marketing bullshit too. The walled garden is fine because this PC is called a tablet rather than a PC, yaddy yadda.

    Too bad only the techies realize that it's a superficial difference used as an excuse to put unneeded restrictions on those "devices".
    Is it really just boiling down to Apple marketing for everyone? Are you just being that resistive? Nobody sees where the market as a whole is going? Has anyone considered that maybe the vast majority of people, including the average computer owner, would much prefer a single mobile device that's capable of everything their old PC was? (This excludes the enterprise and gamers.) With a slicker, easier UI (laptops won't be obsolete just yet, but this will eat up a lot of their market share), much more efficient power consumption, capable of fitting in an area the size of a thin paper notebook?

    All that's needed are slim, wireless keyboards and mice for tablets from various manufacturers and most of the switch will be complete. It would've been completely unnatural for the tower-based PC to remain the de facto standard when we can always just carry one computer with us anywhere. Microsoft understands that. The old order doesn't. People are clingy.

    Soon enough, you'll be denouncing the generation of computers following the tablet and smartphone as rootin'-tootin' high-falutin' voodoo machines, and won't understand why those damned kids don't think they're terrible. Hope you like the taste of dust.

    Edit: It's so easy to boil down to marketing precisely because it is. But it's all true. Steve Jobs and a few other industry luminaries from various companies knew where the industry was headed, despite the already the ho-hum nature of tablet PC's. The race was to see who could get there first and break the market barrier, and take advantage of the lead position. Apple won.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Funny Funny x 3 (list)

  6. Post #166
    Internetianer's Avatar
    August 2009
    236 Posts
    I'm looking forward to W8! :D
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Germany Show Events Agree Agree x 7Disagree Disagree x 2 (list)

  7. Post #167
    I do it all
    fruxodaily's Avatar
    November 2010
    13,211 Posts
    I'm sorry if I am dumb but I am going to try out the OS on my main computer, will it keep all of my files?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 1Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  8. Post #168
    Gold Member
    Panda X's Avatar
    August 2006
    9,775 Posts
    So long as you don't format the drive. Set up a new partition and dual boot instead, that way if you don't like it you could just boot back into 7.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events

  9. Post #169
    I do it all
    fruxodaily's Avatar
    November 2010
    13,211 Posts
    So long as you don't format the drive. Set up a new partition and dual boot instead, that way if you don't like it you could just boot back into 7.
    I've had it on my virtual box, I love it so far and even if I wanna go back to 7 I have the CD for it on my top shelf so no worries with dual booting. I wasn't intending to format anyway
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  10. Post #170
    7H3_H4CK3R's Avatar
    February 2011
    425 Posts
    Okay, I have a question gentlemen.
    I have downloaded the developer release, but my flashdrive is .01 GB too small to make it media to allow me to dualboot. Is it even worth installing this over windows 7 or should I wait until I find something large enough to carry it to install it for a dualboot?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  11. Post #171
    Blackizzle's Avatar
    July 2010
    329 Posts
    The Consumer Preview would probably be worth installing over Win7. It comes out in like 2 weeks.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  12. Post #172
    I do it all
    fruxodaily's Avatar
    November 2010
    13,211 Posts



    Why am I getting this?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  13. Post #173
    P320's Avatar
    September 2011
    957 Posts



    Why am I getting this?
    It says right there that it's a bad image. Compare the MD5 checksums, but I think you need to download a new image. Yours seems corrupted somehow.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events

  14. Post #174
    I do it all
    fruxodaily's Avatar
    November 2010
    13,211 Posts
    It says right there that it's a bad image. Comapre the MD5 checksums, but I think you need to download a new image. Yours seems corrupted somehow.
    Eh I'll wait for the consumer version
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 4Funny Funny x 2 (list)

  15. Post #175
    P320's Avatar
    September 2011
    957 Posts
    Eh I'll wait for the consumer version
    My Windows 8 DP installation is slowly killing itself. I have to wait for the Consumer Preview before I reinstall, just so I don't have to do it twice.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  16. Post #176
    ali3n92's Avatar
    April 2008
    716 Posts
    Hope they added better drivers to Consumer Preview. On DP my net was shitting itself, couldn't get it to work for more than a few minutes. :(
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Romania Show Events Funny Funny x 1 (list)

  17. Post #177
    P320's Avatar
    September 2011
    957 Posts
    Hope they added better drivers to Consumer Preview. On DP my net was shitting itself, couldn't get it to work for more than a few minutes. :(
    I can't even click my Wireless bars in the tasktray, clicking them does nothing, so I'm stuck using the shitty WLAN utility by Ralink. :/
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 1Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)

  18. Post #178
    Gold Member
    gparent's Avatar
    January 2005
    3,949 Posts
    Is it really just boiling down to Apple marketing for everyone? Are you just being that resistive? Nobody sees where the market as a whole is going? Has anyone considered that maybe the vast majority of people, including the average computer owner, would much prefer a single mobile device that's capable of everything their old PC was? (This excludes the enterprise and gamers.) With a slicker, easier UI (laptops won't be obsolete just yet, but this will eat up a lot of their market share), much more efficient power consumption, capable of fitting in an area the size of a thin paper notebook?

    All that's needed are slim, wireless keyboards and mice for tablets from various manufacturers and most of the switch will be complete. It would've been completely unnatural for the tower-based PC to remain the de facto standard when we can always just carry one computer with us anywhere. Microsoft understands that. The old order doesn't. People are clingy.

    Soon enough, you'll be denouncing the generation of computers following the tablet and smartphone as rootin'-tootin' high-falutin' voodoo machines, and won't understand why those damned kids don't think they're terrible. Hope you like the taste of dust.

    Edit: It's so easy to boil down to marketing precisely because it is. But it's all true. Steve Jobs and a few other industry luminaries from various companies knew where the industry was headed, despite the already the ho-hum nature of tablet PC's. The race was to see who could get there first and break the market barrier, and take advantage of the lead position. Apple won.
    Man, quit the licking, no need to get your tongue this freaking brown. I wasn't even talking about Apple, I just reused the Walled Garden term.

    All I'm saying is that allowing artificial restrictions on a device just because it's named "Tablet" rather than "PC" is silly. It's silly when you use that excuse to lock it down. Now, if you want to sell a different experience like Apple does, then sure! It -can- benefit the customer (even if I think Apple's model is very far from a good model of doing that), and they should know what they get into when they buy the device. And it's not a dumb restriction like "This runs ARM and MS is scared of Linux on ARM! So err lock it!" So 100% fine by me.

    Really, being resistive? And somehow I don't understand smartphones and tablets because they're new?

    Honestly man, just because contrary to most of this forum some of us' balls have dropped doesn't mean we're old farts who refuse to understand tablets and smartphones. I own a smart phone, and when a tablet I consider good comes out, I might buy it.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP Show Events Dumb Dumb x 1Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  19. Post #179
    Gold Member
    Panda X's Avatar
    August 2006
    9,775 Posts
    Hope they added better drivers to Consumer Preview. On DP my net was shitting itself, couldn't get it to work for more than a few minutes. :(
    Where you using Windows 7's drivers or those testing drivers made specifically for 8?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events

  20. Post #180
    Gold Member
    Dennab
    May 2010
    2,809 Posts
    I'd say resistive panels are better than capacitive panels for tablets, and after I bought I saw that they just resell it from a company named eGalaxTouch, which offers multitouch resistive panels, with pressure metering, but yeah, this one I have bought is really great, it's even scratch resistant.

    Also they also have capacitive panels if you want, but it's more expensive
    Resistive is no where near as good as Capacitive
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 3 (list)

  21. Post #181
    ali3n92's Avatar
    April 2008
    716 Posts
    Where you using Windows 7's drivers or those testing drivers made specifically for 8?
    8's drivers. I tried transferring the drivers from 7 but it said they were older version.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Romania Show Events

  22. Post #182
    Gold Member
    Sam Za Nemesis's Avatar
    November 2007
    5,372 Posts
    Resistive is no where near as good as Capacitive
    Depends on the case, Resistive is overall more accurate, cheaper and more durable than capacitive, Whereas capacitive can give 'softer' touches and making it unable to use with anything other than a finger
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Brazil Show Events Funny Funny x 2 (list)

  23. Post #183
    Gold Member
    GoDong-DK's Avatar
    November 2009
    14,358 Posts
    http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/14/m...indows-8-apps/

    Notice how the logo on the button is the "normal" one, and not the shitfest on the last page.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Denmark Show Events Informative Informative x 1 (list)

  24. Post #184
    Gold Member
    Panda X's Avatar
    August 2006
    9,775 Posts
    Visual Studio 11 Beta looks really nice yet boring.



    It's interesting I said the same thing as the person below me yet everyone disagrees with me and agrees with him.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events Disagree Disagree x 5Agree Agree x 4 (list)

  25. Post #185
    Blackizzle's Avatar
    July 2010
    329 Posts
    It's really nice, besides that light grey color making it look incredibly dull.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 7Funny Funny x 1 (list)

  26. Post #186
    Gold Member
    Panda X's Avatar
    August 2006
    9,775 Posts
    It's really nice, besides that light grey color making it look incredibly dull.
    I wish it had more life in it. Zune software in the list view is primarily white, though with some subtle colors behind it, which makes it look really nice, yet still Metro-y, but this grey in the Mail app, Office 15, and now Visual Studio 11 just looks bland and dull. It's lifeless.

    I'm surprised at how consistently inconsistent Microsoft's design team for Windows is.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 9Disagree Disagree x 1 (list)

  27. Post #187
    Dotmister's Avatar
    May 2008
    898 Posts
    Visual Studio 11 Beta looks really nice yet boring.

    It mainly looks boring because it's just a metro theme slapped on the old toolbar layout etc. I'm not saying VS should get a new layout, I don't really want them to mess with it since it works - but it's not really proper metro since you still can't use drop down menus on a touch screen etc. And, seeing as Metro is supposed to focus on Typography, there is a definite lack of nice typography that there normally is in Metro applications.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 5 (list)

  28. Post #188
    Gold Member
    Jimmy422's Avatar
    March 2007
    1,737 Posts
    http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/14/m...indows-8-apps/

    Notice how the logo on the button is the "normal" one, and not the shitfest on the last page.
    That button is gone in future builds.

    Not only that, but branding is like one of the last things that gets done with Windows.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  29. Post #189
    Gold Member
    Sam Za Nemesis's Avatar
    November 2007
    5,372 Posts
    Notice how the logo on the button is the "normal" one, and not the shitfest on the last page.
    The video was recorded 8 days ago, probably with a even older build, The new logo leak is just from some few days ago, Who knows
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Brazil Show Events Agree Agree x 2Informative Informative x 1 (list)

  30. Post #190
    I once worked at a sperm bank, the food was terrible
    The Baconator's Avatar
    April 2011
    9,081 Posts
    Making the accessibility better for the impaired:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...ssibility.aspx
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Informative Informative x 1Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)

  31. Post #191
    Gold Member
    Jimmy422's Avatar
    March 2007
    1,737 Posts
    Making the accessibility better for the impaired:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...ssibility.aspx
    The new magnifier looks like shit. It's so bland. Why do they even need scroll bars when there is simple pinch to zoom?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  32. Post #192
    Gold Member
    Panda X's Avatar
    August 2006
    9,775 Posts
    The new magnifier looks like shit. It's so bland. Why do they even need scroll bars when there is simple pinch to zoom?
    Application gesture conflict I would assume.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events

  33. Post #193
    Titlepocalypse 2012 participant
    Zedicus Mann's Avatar
    November 2010
    7,935 Posts
    Where's the beta?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Optimistic Optimistic x 1 (list)

  34. Post #194
    P320's Avatar
    September 2011
    957 Posts
    The new magnifier looks like shit. It's so bland. Why do they even need scroll bars when there is simple pinch to zoom?
    Not everyone has a tablet, genius.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events Zing Zing x 3Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  35. Post #195
    Gold Member
    gparent's Avatar
    January 2005
    3,949 Posts
    The new magnifier looks like shit. It's so bland. Why do they even need scroll bars when there is simple pinch to zoom?
    How do you pinch to zoom on your keyboard? I tried and it doesn't work.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Show Events Zing Zing x 4Agree Agree x 1Dumb Dumb x 1Funny Funny x 1 (list)

  36. Post #196
    Gold Member
    Panda X's Avatar
    August 2006
    9,775 Posts
    Not everyone has a tablet, genius.
    How do you pinch to zoom on your keyboard? I tried and it doesn't work.
    He's talking about the scroll bars with a touch screen not with a keyboard. As it was demonstrated in the video.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events

  37. Post #197
    P320's Avatar
    September 2011
    957 Posts
    He's talking about the scroll bars with a touch screen not with a keyboard. As it was demonstrated in the video.
    Nobody I know owns a single device with a touchscreen, beyond their phone. Touchscreens and tablets are a FAD, and I can't wait for them to be over with. Not to mention, I can't envision anyone using their home PC by fingering the fuck out of their LCD.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 5Disagree Disagree x 2 (list)

  38. Post #198
    Gold Member
    Panda X's Avatar
    August 2006
    9,775 Posts
    Nobody I know owns a single device with a touchscreen, beyond their phone. Touchscreens and tablets are a FAD, and I can't wait for them to be over with. Not to mention, I can't envision anyone using their home PC by fingering the fuck out of their LCD.
    What?

    We were talking about the changes to magnifier.

    Jimmy was asking why magnifier looked like this with the 4 scrollbars when there is pinch to zoom. The scrollbars are only for touch, a point which apparently you a gparent missed.



    Edited:

    Also: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Windows8
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 8 United States Show Events

  39. Post #199
    Gold Member
    Dennab
    May 2010
    2,809 Posts
    Depends on the case, Resistive is overall more accurate, cheaper and more durable than capacitive, Whereas capacitive can give 'softer' touches and making it unable to use with anything other than a finger
    What? Resistive is no where near as accurate as capacitive, it's far cheaper and works well with detecting objects and through clothing but capacitive supports up to five touch points sometimes more and because it works by conductivity you just need to get a stylus designed for them and you can also get gloves designed to work with it as well.

    And if not applied well resistive can have big problems with sensing such as on one type of Android tablets I was selling the stupid thing would jump and even detect at a totally different point on the screen, but with capacitive Tablets and phones there's been no problem.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  40. Post #200
    Gold Member
    ica|kvantum's Avatar
    August 2008
    3,804 Posts
    I would like to try windows 8 but is it worth to dual-boot my computer with windows 7 and windows 8?
    Don't have any other computer that is good enough then my main desktop.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Sweden Show Events Disagree Disagree x 1 (list)