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Foxconn · 26th March 2012

Allright. Let's be completely honest about this.

You want to hear my personal opinion about Windows 8? There you go.

When i was using Ubuntu instead of Windows 7, I have slowly started to miss the games, that I have actually bought and were originally intended to be only on Windows. I didn't bother using Wine or VMWare, because opening up the wrong .exe file will screw up my Linux absolutely. I've tried to hush my game hunger with Cube 2: Sauerbraten, Red Eclipse, Minecraft, Epic Inventor and Quake 3 Arena, but it wasn't enough. Installing Windows 7 again could not be a problem for me, but I was slowly starting to dislike Microsoft cause of It's monopoly around the world.

When I was scrolling up the internet for some free games, I saw someone with a signature saying "Windows Developer Preview". I proceed to think like "what the hell is this". Then i looked at it, and saw something, that was pretty promising and good in my thoughts. I have looked up it's Informations and general discussion stuff, and i was like "OK, fine, let's check this thing out. Maybe finally I'm gonna have a good quality operating system. I have downloaded the 64-bit Developer Version, burned it on a DVD, ran it off, and i was like "Hmmm...expiration date, May 2012. Well, whatever. I won't be using this OS for that long." Then i have installed it and i have enabled dual-booting.

English, German (Euro), German (Germany), Agree, New Partition, Format, Install, Restart, Boot, Wait, Configure. My first impressions were unforgettable with this one. The whole Metro UI looks pretty neat and minimalist. Synced it up with my Windows Live account, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Everything was perfect. Then i took a look at these apps. Their Preview looked pretty awesome. When i have enabled the standard desktop mode, there was literally no difference between the 7 and 8. Just absolute tradition and modernity. Tee hee. Internet Explorer 9 is as fast as firefox (I don't want to say that it is IN FACT faster, because it will spark a little shitstorm), installing the latest Avast! on it was pretty easy too, and...THE BLOODIEST F**K IN THE WORLD?!

How the hell my goddamn fresh and updated copy of the DevPrev is NOT ABLE to detect my god damn CD DRIVE at all?! Well, let's look it up on the forums. Click, Write, Search, Click, Click, Follow Instructions, for cock's sake, it didn't work. Whatever, maybe installing additional drivers would help. Unofficial drivers for Optiarc AD-7241S for Windows DevPrev. Didn't work. Well, whatever, i still have the Internet and my Ubuntu. So, whatever. Steam, Pidgin, Origin, Quassel, DVDVideoSoft, Emsisoft Emergency Kit, Paint.NET, Blender, Thunderbird, LibreOffice...OK. Now the Nvidia drivers...285.62...Loaded it up, check, check, check, Install. Five minutes later...FAIL! What kind of a god damn unstable operating system is this, when i can't even install the GPU drivers without MAJOR tweaks?! These tweaks got it working, then, DirectX SDK. "DirectX 11 has been installed". Good. Origin, Battlefield 3 - PLAY. Everything was even smoothier than in the Windows 7. Generall happiness caused by having your stuff finally properly configured + extreme graphical orgies with Frostbite 2 = WIN. A quick round of multiplayer was even more awesome. OK, Steam, your turn. Call of Duty: Black Ops. Zombie mode, 52 waves survived with friends. Generall awesomeness.

The first impression was absolutely, extremely, deliberately AWFUL, but after getting slowly used to your new OS, it is all OK. But it is a big shame that my DVD still does not work on Windows 8.

I, and my illiterate and illegitimate shitpost are awaiting your criticisms.

**Darkwater124** · 26th March 2012

Foxconn posted:

A huge wall of text appeared

Install Windows Consumer Preview

Foxconn · 26th March 2012

Darkwater124 posted:

Install Windows Consumer Preview

I think i SHOULD. I have never tried that one out.

**TippZ** · 26th March 2012

its not even out yet and you complain about drivers

Tucan Sam · 26th March 2012

Foxconn posted:

Windows 3.11 - Good.

Windows 95 - Shit.

Windows 98 - Good.

Windows Me - Shit.

Windows XP - Good.

Windows Vista - Shit.

Windows 7 - Good.

Windows 8 -

what? 98/ME/vista were shit, 95/2000/XP/7 was great

Edited:

Is there nothing really new in GPO manager or am I missing it?

**GoDong-DK** · 26th March 2012

Foxconn posted:

Wall of stuff

So you're saying Windows 8 will be shit because you're encountering bugs and driver problems? That's hardly anything. I agree on one thing, though, IE10 is faster than Firefox. And Chrome.

**The Baconator** · 26th March 2012

MS STILL is silent on the complaints? Jesus

**wraithcat** · 26th March 2012

Foxconn posted:

Of course it was.

What you have just said is like saying "My OS, Windows Vista is slowing down my computer and the programs i use, manages itself very badly, does endless tasks on my HDD, is wasting my time by making me click the UAC notifications every time i open up everything and is resource hungry, but i am OK with it".

Oh look, I got a new generation OS on a computer that's built to run the last generation OS, with shitty drivers and new security features which punishes lazy programmers which got used to shitty security....
Everything is obviously the OS's fault!!!!

It didn't help that OEM's tended to slap vista on computers which were never ever meant to run vista.

Vista was genuinely good after SP1. Though the more important part was hardware vendors actually releasing important drivers.

**LegoGuy** · 27th March 2012

Alright guys, I'm sick of pinball for the day...

What should I do now?

**Panda X** · 27th March 2012

LegoGuy posted:

Alright guys, I'm sick of pinball for the day...

What should I do now?

Purchase a hat.

**Raijin** · 27th March 2012

LegoGuy posted:

Alright guys, I'm sick of pinball for the day...

What should I do now?

Play more pinball. At this rate you'll never break the 1,000,000,000 barrier.

**Lord_Schrotty** · 27th March 2012

Is it already possible to go directly to the desktop instead the metro interface after booting?

**FlubberNugget** · 27th March 2012

Is it really that hard to press the windows key or alt tab?

P320 · 27th March 2012

FlubberNugget posted:

Is it really that hard to press the windows key or alt tab?

YES, it's annoying, hence why he asked for a solution to the problem.

Brock Obama · 27th March 2012

I just tried the Windows key on the Consumer Preview, and it didn't do shit to bring me to the desktop from the Start Screen.

**GoDong-DK** · 27th March 2012

Brock Obama posted:

I just tried the Windows key on the Consumer Preview, and it didn't do shit to bring me to the desktop from the Start Screen.

It should, if your last used "application" is the desktop. It'll bring you back and forth between the start screen and whatever app you used before it.

**Lord_Schrotty** · 27th March 2012

GoDong-DK posted:

It should, if your last used "application" is the desktop. It'll bring you back and forth between the start screen and whatever app you used before it.

There are no "last used apps" after booting.

**Raijin** · 27th March 2012

Whole lotta reading comprehension going on in the last few posts.

**The Baconator** · 27th March 2012

Brock Obama posted:

I just tried the Windows key on the Consumer Preview, and it didn't do shit to bring me to the desktop from the Start Screen.

Win key + D

**GoDong-DK** · 27th March 2012

Lord_Schrotty posted:

There are no "last used apps" after booting.

Just on top of my head, it isn't supposed to go to the desktop when you press the Windows key just after start-up (I'm not near a computer right now, so I can't check either), and it makes sense considering that the desktop application isn't open yet. If this is really the case, i don't see what the problem is. Did he say that he cold booted? I supposed that he simply meant that he was sent to a different application.

Edit: Just backtracked a little. I'm on a mobile device, and I'll use that as an excuse. Still, my former statement was in no way wrong, as that is why it doesn't go to the desktop.

**Foda** · 27th March 2012

Foxconn posted:

Of course it was.

What you have just said is like saying "My OS, Windows Vista is slowing down my computer and the programs i use, manages itself very badly, does endless tasks on my HDD, is wasting my time by making me click the UAC notifications every time i open up everything and is resource hungry, but i am OK with it".

Brock Obama posted:

To be 100% honest with ya, I noticed no improvements in Vista, even with the service packs. Run all the benchmarks you like, but when it comes down to the real-world usage and "feel" of the OS, I noticed no speed increases.

And I saw he didn't include 2000, NT 4.0, Windows server, and a few others, but typical users didn't run those versions of Windows at home. They ran those versions in his list.

People complained about slow downs because they were running 5+ year old computers and never bothered to upgrade. When 7 came out, everyone already upgraded to run Vista so they didn't complain about performance issues.

Vista improved so many things that it's not even funny. Wireless support, Memory management, new device driver model, IPv6, complete audio core rewrite; here's a list of new features. If you're able to understand what's being said in these articles, you'd realize what you're saying is complete nonsense.

werewolf0020 · 27th March 2012

when i install window 8 in my current HD that alredy has window 7 it will move all my stuff into a new folder called Window Old? or it will delete EVERY thing?

**Darkwater124** · 27th March 2012

werewolf0020 posted:

when i install window 8 in my current HD that alredy has window 7 it will move all my stuff into a new folder called Window Old? or it will delete EVERY thing?

It moves Users, Program Files and some other folders to C:\Windows.old

**GoDong-DK** · 27th March 2012

Darkwater124 posted:

It moves Users, Program Files and some other folders to C:\Windows.old

In my experience it's either pretty much the whole thing, or everything.

werewolf0020 · 27th March 2012

Darkwater124 posted:

It moves Users, Program Files and some other folders to C:\Windows.old

ah i see thanks for curiosity is there anyway to get a few parts from the windows registry back? since every time i install a new windows almost half of my games dont work well becouse the lack of registry info in the regedit thing

**The Baconator** · 27th March 2012

Can't he also do an upgrade install?

werewolf0020 · 27th March 2012

The Baconator posted:

Can't he also do an upgrade install?

...I can?

Brock Obama · 28th March 2012

Darkwater124 posted:

It moves Users, Program Files and some other folders to C:\Windows.old

Be careful though, Windows likes to delete the contents of Windows.old whenever it feels like it. Happened to me a few times before I could salvage my stuff. Backups are strongly recommended before doing this.

**Panda X** · 28th March 2012

The Baconator posted:

Can't he also do an upgrade install?

Yeah and break nearly everything.

Edited:

Brock Obama posted:

Be careful though, Windows likes to delete the contents of Windows.old whenever it feels like it. Happened to me a few times before I could salvage my stuff. Backups are strongly recommended before doing this.

It only does that if you tell it to in Disk Cleanup.

**gparent** · 28th March 2012

Foda posted:

People complained about slow downs because they were running 5+ year old computers and never bothered to upgrade. When 7 came out, everyone already upgraded to run Vista so they didn't complain about performance issues.

Vista improved so many things that it's not even funny. Wireless support, Memory management, new device driver model, IPv6, complete audio core rewrite; here's a list of new features. If you're able to understand what's being said in these articles, you'd realize what you're saying is complete nonsense.

While Vista improved many things in Windows XP, I don't think we need to bring up features that were already present in Windows XP SP1 to make it seem better than it was.

Brock Obama · 28th March 2012

Panda X posted:

Yeah and break nearly everything.

Edited:

It only does that if you tell it to in Disk Cleanup.

Then Ccleaner was the culprit... >_<

werewolf0020 · 28th March 2012

so i shoudnt do an upgrade install right?

**Panda X** · 28th March 2012

werewolf0020 posted:

so i shoudnt do an upgrade install right?

No.

Al Bundy · 28th March 2012

I like how this shit starts up faster than linux. I can only seem to run Half-Life in software mode which kind of bugged me. But hell, I miss the start button.

**Darkwater124** · 28th March 2012

Panda X posted:

No.

I did that, worked fine for me. Unless that's the source form the frequent crashes, but I think that's just Windows itself.

**TheGuru** · 28th March 2012

Al Bundy posted:

I like how this shit starts up faster than linux. I can only seem to run Half-Life in software mode which kind of bugged me. But hell, I miss the start button.

Install updated drivers. I had the same issue with my nVidia card, but grabbing the drivers from their site fixed it.

**Lord_Schrotty** · 28th March 2012

Al Bundy posted:

I like how this shit starts up faster than linux. I can only seem to run Half-Life in software mode which kind of bugged me. But hell, I miss the start button.

There's an app called Start8. It installs you a startbutton. Not the original one but at least something.

werewolf0020 · 28th March 2012

ok so my window 8 iso is done anything i should know before i go on and install this baby?

**GoDong-DK** · 28th March 2012

Al Bundy posted:

I like how this shit starts up faster than linux. I can only seem to run Half-Life in software mode which kind of bugged me. But hell, I miss the start button.

I don't really understand why - they changed the look of it all the time (though they did maintain the flag), so can't we just pretend that they made it transparent? Usability wise it's almost the same.

**Panda X** · 28th March 2012

Darkwater124 posted:

I did that, worked fine for me. Unless that's the source form the frequent crashes, but I think that's just Windows itself.

More than likely is, running 8 from 7 upgrade really messes up a lot of things in the OS.

Also it's not good to suggest other people to do it since, because it messes up the OS, they might want to stop using it, but now they can't just drop back to 7, they have to reinstall it all over again.