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I wouldn't be surprised if they've made a system like Black Mesa has for faces by now.
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many white people and only 2 black people
need more races
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Has this been posted on fp before? I know it's really old, but it just occurred to me that it only has a few hundred views.
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Nobody said the Elite was the final product, Humanity is still undergoing "try-outs" for the Combine. Chances are if we succeeded, then a lot more work would be put in.
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But instead, we chose to overthrow the Combine and take back Earth instead
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Which even if we lost, I'd consider it passing, since it takes real balls to destroy an occupation force who were tasked with keeping us down.
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They won't do co-op if the characters aren't mute, at least in the Half-Life universe.
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Nah, they don't need to immerse the player THAT much in Co-Op, because Co-Op is supposed to be sillier than SP; they would use a voice system similar to that of L4D.
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So many people fail to realise how Breen wasn't actually a bad guy, he was simply trying ensure survival of humanity - Even at the cost of losing what makes us human in the process.
In a sense you could somewhat compare him to The Illusive Man in Mass Effect.
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Breen truly believed what he did was right, for the sake of mankind, and you gotta give the guy some credit. Sure, we've been mostly assimilated into the Combine but at least we still exist, if it weren't for his negotiations we probably would have been wiped out completely during the 7HW.
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Not to mention the Overwatch forces. They have been made to serve Breen, and undoubtedly been led to believe that they are doing it for the greater good of humanity. If they fail, they are threatened with off-world assignments and ultimately extinction. That's some burden to carry.
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He did have his asshole moments IMO, like just before the finale when you meet face to face for example, even before he started losing his temper and was chased by Freeman.
But I guess it's up to opinion how much you believe in what he says. With how quickly he wanted to get off planet when Freeman was after him, I always thought of him as a spineless coward who willingly became the Combine's puppet to secure his own life standards. I always assumed most of what came out of his mouth was just propaganda. I can't exactly dive into the psychology of Overwatch soldiers, but their brutality and the "pick up that can" scene established them as everything but victims to me.
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http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/5...veal-in-april/
farfetched/unintentionally misleading, but still I hope the revealed game's gonna be interesting
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Words couldn't describe the excitement inside me if we got a teaser trailer for HALF-LIFE 3 Multiplayer, something to compete with BF3/MW3, with Combine Gunships, Resistance Jeeps, defending/destroying Multiplayer objectives like EP2 ending..
Uggghhh~~ One can dream.
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Eh that doesn't mean anything, they just telling him to be interested anyways.
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im fine if its like HLDM
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Yup!Yeah! This game is awesome.
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By watching this I just realised that, even if the combine are the bad guys and all that, some of the soldiers may have felt that fighting freeman and crushing the rebellion was the only way of surviving, and Gordon's actions were seen as stupidly dangerous for mankind, 'cause he was risking a combine retaliation, so he needed to be stopped.
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Is someone making a Half-Life mod of CS:GO or something? 'cause that's what those screenies are inferring...
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It's sad that Episode 2 came out when I was in 8th grade...now I'm two months from graduating high school and I still haven't played the next Half Life yet. It has sure been a long time.
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I was hoping I could play ep3 before graduating high school (ep2 released two years before that) and now I'm on my third year of my career
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just a little tidbit of info for those who don't know
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Laidlaw confirmed in one of the mails that thay had been working on expanding vort's both lore and role in the next hl, but unfortunately it's not stored in the vault thread so I can't quote directly
just a little tidbit of info for those who don't know
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"kill freeman" game mode where everyone is a combine soldier with just a pistol/stunstick/shotgun or SMG, but one person, who is Freeman, gets every weapon in the book
killing Freeman makes you Freeman
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from what I understand the higher the combine rank the more drugs and mind altering shit they go through
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True, I was thinking of lower class soldiers, or metrocops.
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The voice lines in the leak reveal a lot more about him and the situation. And he generally does believe what he says. Including him and Judith trying to convince Eli to work with them, then Judith refusing to send him for execution and trying to convince Breen to spare him. He goes on about how he wants to make the Combine Portals safe for Humans, and how Eli and Judith can help him do that with their knowledge of portal technology. He also goes on about having immortality, and with it the ability "to move freely through the continuum".
We hear him giving a speech to Eli as we head toward his office, but we never hear the full version. The full version is as follows (underlined is the part we don't hear in game):
"Oh Eli, if only you could see what I've seen, you wouldn't be so short sighted! I have studies 36 zones beyond our own. Carbon stars with ancient satellites colonised by sentient fungi. Gas giants, inhabited by vast meteorological intelligences. Worlds stretched thin across the membranes where the dimensions.. intersect? ...Impossible to describe with our limited vocabulary."
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Yeah I don't think arguing with me about that point will lead to anything unless Word of God makes an explicit statement (sorry), because everything he says that you quoted can also be interpreted as honeyed words if you really want to. Winning a scientist over to your side by telling him about great discoveries and possibilities definitely sounds like a smart move, as does offering things like immortality or ruling the galaxy together as father and son.
Just... the way how full of himself he was during the scene with everyone around him, how he was actually chuckling and laughing a bit when he realized he held all the cards in his hands, he could make any bargain with the Combine, he could hire Freeman for his own purposes... it didn't seem like the man ready to do the necessary evil of sacrificing his friend to save countless other lives. It seemed like somebody drunken on power.
And for me, that made him a fantastic villain. He wasn't evil to the core, he wasn't even an anti-hero, he was just weak.
Sorry, it's just my alternative character interpretation I can't tear myself from I guess.
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If you try and justify Breen's position, do you think the unseen enemy could be far far bigger than the combine is? and if Breen failed at what he did they'd destroy earth?
Breen proving humanities worth I mean. By turning them into super soldiers.
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Basically because Breen failed, Earth is fucked? Apocolypse of the post-apocalyptic world
This is the best thing I love about a villian
when you can see where they are coming from, just take Sofia Lamb for example of Bioshock 2, amazing villain, because you can relate to her
if you can relate to a villain and don't want to kill them, but you have no other choice, then that is a very well made villain.
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A classical trait in dictators is narcissism. They genuinely believe they are doing the right thing, even when it should be glaringly obvious that they are oppressive and evil.
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To me, the sole fact humanity could rebel against a toned down version of the Combine forces and expel them from Earth is proving it worth. Rebels don't win the civil war by their raw power like the combine did during the 7 hour war, as they are quite outnumbered by the combine overwatch, but through their knowledge and wisdom (Advanced teleportation technology, on-the-fly contraptions -such as the Magnusson device-, using pre-7 hour war structures as shelter) which actually contrasts with the powerful aspect of Freeman. I think just this part of the human behaviour could make them a great asset for the combine.
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I love this so much
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I would disagree that they're outnumbered, I think humans far outnumber the Combine. However humans are severely outgunned and untrained, I'd like to think many of them are unarmed though, and only serve support roles due to lack of sufficient weapons / armour going around, we just don't see them much because we're only on the front lines most of the time (we do escort a few of them at the end of EP1 though). I would think there was a lot of Stalingrad-esque fighting going on with the Rebels (one carries the gun, one follows him, when the gunman dies, the follower takes the gun). So basically those who's survived the longest have earned their skills in blood, and with those skills, were the main reason the Overwatch Soldiers were defeated.
Actually if Overwatch Soldiers were introduced in Day One, the rebels would have been crushed instantly. But the Combine treated it as a Civil Emergency and not a Military one, so they only sent poorly thugs (Civil Protection) to deal with it.
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With the Overwatch, in Raising the Bar they said they purposely made them walk with a stride and made them stick their chest out a bit so they'd appear dominant, I don't think they wanted you to feel sympathy for them.
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But that was Civil Protection, they're assholes anyway. Joining CP is a choice, and as a result CP is filled with criminals, sadists, and combine sympathizers. Becoming an Overwatch Soldier is a choice for CP's, but I'm sure a fair share of people were forced into it.
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LIKE NO ONE EVER WAS, TO CATCH THEM IS MY REAL TEST, TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUSE
January 2011
4,689 PostsI thought people joined Civil Protection as a surefire way to get food, supplies and reccomended safety (Or at least more safety than being an average citizen or a rebel)
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You know what would be amazing? If Episode 3 brought in the return of Otis the security guard from the HL expansion packs.
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Wait is he that fat guy?
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Fun fact: every single person thinks he's doing something good no matter what he is doing.
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Some do, but as we see in-game, CP is full of all the worst types of people.
Also the guy posting after me has a neat idea in theory, but it won't work. See timestamp at the top of this post for why.
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I just had an Idea.
I post in this thread, then edit my post when half life 3 is released.
I would type out a very similar plot to half life 3, claim it as my theory, take a screen cap, and post it to make myself seem like a prophet which no-one listened to!
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5 Months Ago Last edited by Forum Shark; 3 Hours Ago at 07:24AM.
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HL3 confirmed for 30th of August 2012!
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