1. Post #4081
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    uberdood15's Avatar
    September 2006
    526 Posts
    Anyone know of an affordable side by side 12 ga. shotgun? Preferably one with external hammers. I've seen the zhongzhou coachgun around, the one imported by century arms, but I don't really trust it to be worth the money.

    On a side note, who's porch is this?










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  2. Post #4082
    Don't Worry, I'm a Marine
    UncleJimmema's Avatar
    October 2005
    2,993 Posts
    if some buds go innawoods and have fun then whatever, completely fine by me

    i don't like those dumb children running around with gear worth a car, communicating by radio and pretending to be seal delta commando 6-rad special ops
    Hi, I'm a marine. I'm trained as a rifleman.

    I still like to run around with $1000 worth of gear and pretend to be seal team 6. Your argument is invalid.
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  3. Post #4083
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    January 2008
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    On a side note, who's porch is this?
    Drake. One of the classiest bastards on /k/.

    Edited:

    Hi, I'm a marine. I'm trained as a rifleman.

    I still like to run around with $1000 worth of gear and pretend to be seal team 6. Your argument is invalid.
    *COUGH*
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  4. Post #4084
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    ewitwins's Avatar
    December 2009
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    Anyone know of an affordable side by side 12 ga. shotgun? Preferably one with external hammers. I've seen the zhongzhou coachgun around, the one imported by century arms, but I don't really trust it to be worth the money.

    On a side note, who's porch is this?










    That is a fucking winner's porch. I would love to have era guns like that all together.
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  5. Post #4085
    not really no because paying thousands for made in china optics and clothes isn't necessary to have fun and it makes no sense
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  6. Post #4086
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    uberdood15's Avatar
    September 2006
    526 Posts
    Drake. One of the classiest bastards on /k/.
    Ah, sehr guht, danke. Anyone got an archive of his pictures? I'd like to beef up my gun porn folder.

    On another side note, I've been an Kalashnikov kinda guy for a while, but now I'd like to see what the AR platform has to offer me. What kind of decent AR could I get for about $500-750?
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  7. Post #4087

    January 2010
    1,271 Posts
    Ah... I see Pruss is back to being barraged by insults for saying something offensive. Is that a reference to /k/ I see? Another day in paradise.


    Oh and some sex:
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  8. Post #4088
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    cardfan212's Avatar
    April 2009
    7,849 Posts
    Any good .22LR pistols for cheap? Or should I just get a Marlin 795?
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  9. Post #4089
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    Gubbinz96's Avatar
    September 2006
    3,421 Posts
    On another side note, I've been an Kalashnikov kinda guy for a while, but now I'd like to see what the AR platform has to offer me. What kind of decent AR could I get for about $500-750?
    A shit one.

    Unless your ridiculously lucky and can find a used Colt AR or a used one from a brand that [h2]isn't[/h2] the following: Bushmaster, DPMS (don't buy me stupid), Olympic Arms, Century Arms.

    That's just about covers it off the top of my head. STAG's are generally the cheapest GOOD quality AR's out there. Lowest you might find one new is at least $850+
    If you want something that's really serious prepare to poop some serious cabbage for it.
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  10. Post #4090
    What fun is there in making sense?
    Dennab
    October 2007
    9,274 Posts
    You done broke into the wrong house, stranger...

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  11. Post #4091
    Sphene
    Qaus's Avatar
    September 2010
    10,825 Posts
    You done broke into the wrong house, stranger...

    I like your snooze button.
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  12. Post #4092
    Captain Armed Dildo, Master of Ratings
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    Oh, a robber. "Take a little snooze now punk!"
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  13. Post #4093
    You done broke into the wrong house, stranger...

    Mind if I ask how much your M14 cost and where you bought one?
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  14. Post #4094
    Connoisseur of Maple Syrup, Guns, and Sex Toys
    Dennab
    August 2008
    5,053 Posts
    I'm not sure how dumb of a question this is, but we'll find out.

    I'm looking at an H&K PTR-91F. It says it's chambered in 7.62x51mmR NATO.

    Can I load 147 grain 7.62x54mm into this or is the 3mm difference going to fuck everything up?

    Sincere question here so please no assholish responses.
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  15. Post #4095
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    April 2009
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    I'm not sure how dumb of a question this is, but we'll find out.

    I'm looking at an H&K PTR-91F. It says it's chambered in 7.62x51mmR NATO.

    Can I load 147 grain 7.62x54mm into this or is the 3mm difference going to fuck everything up?

    Sincere question here so please no assholish responses.
    No.

    Edited:

    In case my answer was too brief, 7.62x51 is .308 and 7.62x54 is .312. Plus there's a whole ton of other differences, such as .308 doesn't have a rim.
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  16. Post #4096
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    Dennab
    August 2008
    5,053 Posts
    Okay thanks. That answers it bluntly.

    Why exactly not? I'm sure it has something to do with the length of the cartridge and a powder load too powerful for what the rifle is designed to handle?

    Edited:

    So what would happen with a 3mm (or .04) difference?
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  17. Post #4097
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    cardfan212's Avatar
    April 2009
    7,849 Posts
    Think of it this way: You wouldn't put 9x19 into a Makarov, 7.62x39 in an M1895, .45ACP in a Colt SAA, or .50BMG in a Desert Eagle. Even though all of these rounds are similar to the round that the weapon takes, you would never, ever, EVER try to use them in that weapon.
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  18. Post #4098
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    Dennab
    August 2008
    5,053 Posts
    I know that I want to know exactly what would happen. Would the bullet jam in the barrel, would the cartridge explode, would the cartridge jam, etc.
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  19. Post #4099
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    cardfan212's Avatar
    April 2009
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    I actually don't know what would happen. Most likely the round wouldn't even fit in the magazine, and if you bypass that, it probably wouldn't even fit in the chamber, and if it does then the bolt will most likely not cycle, but if somehow it does then I would assume the firing pin would either over-penetrate or light-strike, and if that doesn't happen, the bullet would be too big for the barrel.
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  20. Post #4100
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    UncleJimmema's Avatar
    October 2005
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    I know that I want to know exactly what would happen. Would the bullet jam in the barrel, would the cartridge explode, would the cartridge jam, etc.
    This may happen.

    Or the barrel could catastrophically explode, or it could jam, or it could fire but not be accurate what so ever.

    Then of course you have things like .38 special and .357 magnum, where you can shoot .38 special out of a revolver designed for .357 magnum but not vice versa.

    Examples of what could happen.
    This video is on a .410 shotgun that defied expectations when they loaded it with 30-30, 45-70 gov, 44. magnum, and 454 casull

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  21. Post #4101
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    Dennab
    August 2008
    5,053 Posts
    Wow so if the cartridge is smaller, it 'fire forms' which I assume basically means from firing it reforms the cartridge to fit the barrel/receiver of the firearm. But from what I understand a smaller round that doesn't fit the barrel has the potential to get tripped up inside the barrel due to rifling that doesn't fit and potentially tumble/break up inside the barrel, right?

    What would happen if you somehow managed to shove a larger calibre bullet into a smaller calibre firearm and fire it? Would it just explode? It seems like it would.
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  22. Post #4102
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    December 2009
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    That casing malformation is pretty incredible
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  23. Post #4103
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    UncleJimmema's Avatar
    October 2005
    2,993 Posts
    Wow so if the cartridge is smaller, it 'fire forms' which I assume basically means from firing it reforms the cartridge to fit the barrel/receiver of the firearm. But from what I understand a smaller round that doesn't fit the barrel has the potential to get tripped up inside the barrel due to rifling that doesn't fit and potentially tumble/break up inside the barrel, right?

    What would happen if you somehow managed to shove a larger calibre bullet into a smaller calibre firearm and fire it? Would it just explode? It seems like it would.
    That's what happen when "9 lives" fired 454 and 45-70. 454 casull is bigger than the diameter of the barrel, but not the chamber. The bullet deforms and shoves itself down the barrel.

    That's not to say that the bullet couldn't get stuck in the barrel and cause a harmful stoppage, but as the video showed that wasn't the case. Infact the main reason the shotgun broke wasn't due to a barrel clog, but because the case produce significantly more pressure than a 454 normally would (which was incredibly high for that little .410 to handle to begin with) due to the fact that the cartridge was loaded with a hoopajoop of gun powder.
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  24. Post #4104
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    imarawrus's Avatar
    May 2005
    626 Posts
    A shit one.

    Unless your ridiculously lucky and can find a used Colt AR or a used one from a brand that [h2]isn't[/h2] the following: Bushmaster, DPMS (don't buy me stupid), Olympic Arms, Century Arms.

    That's just about covers it off the top of my head. STAG's are generally the cheapest GOOD quality AR's out there. Lowest you might find one new is at least $850+
    If you want something that's really serious prepare to poop some serious cabbage for it.
    I got my PSA for 700$ straight
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  25. Post #4105
    What fun is there in making sense?
    Dennab
    October 2007
    9,274 Posts
    Mind if I ask how much your M14 cost and where you bought one?
    Semi auto M1A National Match I picked up just after Xmas for about $800. Normally retails for almost twice that. It was a deal I couldn't pass up, I had to sell an AR to fund it :P



    Edited:

    Ah, sehr guht, danke. Anyone got an archive of his pictures? I'd like to beef up my gun porn folder.

    On another side note, I've been an Kalashnikov kinda guy for a while, but now I'd like to see what the AR platform has to offer me. What kind of decent AR could I get for about $500-750?
    ~$600 for this one when it comes back in stock

    http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...rt-811036.html
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  26. Post #4106
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    July 2008
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    How much are you willing to spend?
    about 500-600
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  27. Post #4107
    I'm not sure how dumb of a question this is, but we'll find out.

    I'm looking at an H&K PTR-91F. It says it's chambered in 7.62x51mmR NATO.

    Can I load 147 grain 7.62x54mm into this or is the 3mm difference going to fuck everything up?

    Sincere question here so please no assholish responses.
    you can't force a rimmed 54mm long cartridge into a chamber designed for a 51mm rimless cartridge. it's impossible.

    Edited:

    i didn't catch the at first either. here:

    i did try to force a 7,62x51 casing into the m44's 7,62x54r chamber but the tapering (angling of cartridge walls) made it impossible.
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  28. Post #4108
    What fun is there in making sense?
    Dennab
    October 2007
    9,274 Posts
    about 500-600
    The world is your oyster. You can get a used Glock for less than that. You can buy an 870 for half that.
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  29. Post #4109
    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    download's Avatar
    July 2006
    6,632 Posts
    Does anyone one here remember a guy who bought a 1911 and it turned out the gun was chambered in .30 Mauser?
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  30. Post #4110
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    January 2008
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    What

    how
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  31. Post #4111
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    June 2008
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    I kinda want a 1911 chambered in 7.62x25, the only problem being I then need a 1911, and not-Chinese ones cost too much.
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  32. Post #4112
    Don't think the 1911 would be a good platform for a such hot round as 7,62x25
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  33. Post #4113

    January 2010
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    Don't think the 1911 would be a good platform for a such hot round as 7,62x25
    Yeah... I mean it might work if you designed one with the intent of firing the round from the start.
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  34. Post #4114
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    September 2007
    845 Posts
    old video of me testing out the bayonet on my old beater M44.

    no worries, I have a far better M44 I don't treat so roughly. :D

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  35. Post #4115
    Semi auto M1A National Match I picked up just after Xmas for about $800. Normally retails for almost twice that. It was a deal I couldn't pass up, I had to sell an AR to fund it :P


    Thanks for the info, I've always wanted a M1/M14 style rifle.
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  36. Post #4116
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    June 2008
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    Bunch of people around here keep looking for conversion kits for 1911s to 7.62x25, and apparently they're around in the states. People want it because of the availability of cheap surplus, apparently there's a fair demand in Canada at least for conversion kits.
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  37. Post #4117
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    June 2010
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    Semi auto M1A National Match I picked up just after Xmas for about $800. Normally retails for almost twice that. It was a deal I couldn't pass up, I had to sell an AR to fund it :P

    Fuckin' fancy, dude
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  38. Post #4118
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    April 2009
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    http://www.basspro.com/Remington-870...10218080/97996

    Thinking about picking up one of these and putting a pistol grip on it. What do you guys think?
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  39. Post #4119
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    April 2010
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    Nothing wrong with a good ole 870, but isn't that a steep price for one?
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  40. Post #4120
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    Nothing wrong with a good ole 870, but isn't that a steep price for one?
    The 28" barrel model with 4+1 capacity was only $320, but I prefer the shorter barrel and longer mag tube.
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