[nightlord]

As this is now a GW thread, it covers all GW related things. It seems i lost the latest version, and it is now for fantasy aswell, so i will make a more updated version tommorow.

This thread is for discussion of all Games-Workhop related products, such as W40K. Warhammer 40,000 (also known as Warhammer 40K or simply 40K) is a tabletop miniature wargame produced by Games Workshop, set in a dystopian science fantasy universe.

More info can be found at the Lexicanium

Games

Several games have been released.

Space Crusade (1992)
Space Hulk (1993)
Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels (1995)
Final Liberation (1997)
Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate (1998)
Warhammer 40,000: Rites of War (1999)
Warhammer 40,000: Fire Warrior (2003)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War (2004)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War: Winter Assault (2005)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War: Dark Crusade (2006)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War: Soulstorm (2008)
Warhammer 40,000: Glory in Death (2006)
Warhammer 40,000: Squad Command (2007)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II (2009)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II – Chaos Rising (2010)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II – Retribution (2011)
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine (2011)
Warhammer 40,000: Dark Millennium Online (MMO) (2013)

Dawn of War Series

Dawn of War

Dawn of war is a RTS game set in the W40k Universe. It has most of the things you would expect from a RTS game such as Base building, unit upgrades, a resource system etc. The first game in the series, Dawn of War, had the Space Marines, Chaos, Orks and Eldar as playable Factions. Expansions added the other races - Winter Assault had Imperial Guard, Dark Crusade had Tau and Necrons, Soulstorm had Witch Hunters and Dark Eldar. Tyranids were not added the game. A Space Marine Chapter, the Blood Ravens, were developed for the DoW series.



Dawn of War 2
Dawn of war 2 was released in 2009 by Relic. It was completely different from DoW1 - Base building was removed, Research was gone, battles were smaller, there were fewer units etc. DoW2 was more focued on smaller battles with less units. The singleplayer campaign was more like a RPG - You only had one squad of characters.
The playable armies on DoW2 were the Space marines, Tyranids, Orks, and Eldar. The Chaos rising Expansion added Chaos and the latest game, Retribution, added The Imperial Guard.

Retribution is a standalone game and does not require any of the other games.

Space Marine

Space marine is an upcoming TPS in development for the PS3, X360 and PC. It is scheduled to release Autumn 2011. Players take the role of Space Marine Captain Titus of the Ultramarines chapter. The storyline of the game involves defending a Forgeworld from Orks, and later on Chaos.

The game will have Multiplayer, Space Marine VS chaos space marine has been confirmed.



Space Marine trailer

Warhammer 40,000: Dark Millennium Online

Warhammer 40,000: Dark Millennium Online is a MMO currently in development. Space marines, Chaos and Orks are the only confirmed playable faction so far. The game will not be like a standard MMO and will have some TPS elements aswell as drivable vehicles.



Trailer

Kill Team

Kill team is a new game coming July to Xbox Live Arcade and the PlayStation Network from THQ. Players take control of one of 4 Space Marines - Sternguard Veteran, Techmarine, Vanguard Veteran, or Librarian on an Ork Kruzer en route to a Forge World. Playing this will unlock a Power Sword in Space Marine.

Trailer

Videos

Firewarrior intro

Dawn of war 1 intro

Dawn of war: Soulstorm intro

Dawn of war 2 intro

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Dawn of war 2: Retribution intro

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Roleplaying in the Grim Darkness of the 41st Millenium

Dark Heresy

Dark Heresy puts the players in the boots of Inquisitorial Acolytes. In the service of their Inquisitor, the players are charged with rooting out threats to the Imperium within its vast, bloated boundaries, be the threats Alien, Heretical or Daemonic.

The lowest scale of the game systems, the players do not have the resources of their Inquisitor to call on (they’re probably stopping Hive Fleets and dealing with serious problems), and must deal with the situation at hand as well as they can.
Combat is fast and lethal, often ending abruptly with the death of a Player. Often.
Each player in a group can choose from a number of “home worlds” that define their character, for example, they could be born on a feral world that doesn’t know one end of a Lasgun from the other. From here, players can define their character further by choosing a Career. These are bound into:
Adept: The scholar
Assassin: It’s kinda obvious
Arbitrator: Judge Dredd
Cleric: A priest of the Emperor
Guardsman: A warrior, maybe a mercenary, maybe an official Guardsmen of the Imperium.
Imperial Psyker: A human cursed with the ability to manipulate (and be manipulated by) the Warp, a universe stacked atop and inside the Corporeal universe, inhabited by daemons and mad gods.
Scum: A general scummer, living outside the law.
Tech Priest: A servant of the Adeptus Mechanicus, keepers of technology and lore.

These careers present within themselves opportunities to define your character even further. For example, will your mercenary guardsman go the route of an elite Stormtrooper or adopt the dashing moustache of a commanding officer?
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Rogue Trader

Rogue Trader puts your players in positions of power. Playing as the commanding officers aboard a Rogue Traders vessel with one player playing the Rogue Trader himself, the players have clearance to venture beyond the boundaries of Imperial Space in search of profit.

The game is far more sandbox-oriented than Dark Heresy as it gives the players their own spaceship to command. Examples of Rogue Trader misadventures are bountiful with players chronicling adventures of their ship deliberately mis-starting the warp drive causing the ship to travel back in time an indeterminate amount of time, where the players eagerly awaited the chance to meet themselves.
Rogue Trader runs on the same system as Dark Heresy and as such, though the players power levels are very different, players from different systems can still interact, with Dark Heresy Acolytes being sent to tag along and spy on a Rogue Trader who’s getting a bit complacent in accepting Xenotech.
Instead of a “Homeworld System” as used by Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader is slightly more malleable, with a player choosing an existing homeworld, which then branches into more options that explain how the character came to serve on the Rogue Traders vessel. For example, it can provide in character motives such as Revenge, and plausible means of joining the crew. Press-ganging is always a good ‘un.
Careers in Rogue Trader work identically to Dark Heresy, with the difference that there can only be one of each as opposed to Dark Heresy which can allow for multiple of one career. Careers are as followed;
Rogue Trader: The boss. Generally slightly mad.
Arch-Militant: The boss-man in terms of arming the ship, commands the ships personal militia and the like.
Astropath-Transcendant: A walking, Talking Email send and receive person. Sends messages through the warp, always slightly mad.
Explorator: A Tech Priest of Mars charged to follow a Rogue Trader in the search of long lost relics of Humanity (STCs) and maybe study alien tech. Understandably weird.
Missionary: A servant of the Emperor who brings the light of the Emperor to undiscovered worlds.
Navigator: A walking talking GPS who charts the ship’s passage through the warp. Has a third eye that kills if you look into it. Mad.
Seneschal: The ship’s logistics manager, keeps an eye on profit and expenditure. Quite the sociable chap, maybe not mad.
Void Master: Pilots the ship, is the Rogue Traders bitch. Mad by extension.
These careers all offer similar levels of divergence to their Dark Heresy counterparts in terms of Malleability.

Deathwatch

Deathwatch throws your players into the Power Armoured boots of the Defenders of the Imperium, the Space Marines. In the service of the Alien department of the Inquisition, the Ordo Xenos, the players are charged to defend the Imperium from threats beyond the scope of Dark Heresy.
Deathwatch is run on a “mission” basis with set objectives (assassinate the Ork Warboss), players are allowed to Requisition specialist equipment before each mission, drawing from a group-wide requisition pool. This means that players must decide carefully whether or not they really need another Chainsword for the Assault Marine to wield as it may prevent the teams Devastator Marine from carrying a small sidearm incase he’s ambushed.
Deathwatch runs on the same system as both Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy, meaning that even though the power levels (and scale of objectives) differ wildly, a cross-system game can be run.

Deathwatch by its nature is focussed on combat, some feel to the exclusion of all else but others disagree. Space Marines sacrifice their humanity and a chance for a normal life to serve The Emperor as no-one else can hope to, but in doing so they forge bonds of brotherhood, a sense of honour unprecedented by normal humans. This can make for spectacular ingame moments that may or may not boil down to letting the Tactical Marine punch that Hive Tyrant to death to satisfy his honour.

Using a similar system to Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader, Deathwatch allows players to choose a chapter as their starting point, instead of a homeworld. This has all the same mechanical effects as a homeworld, but it also says a lot about the character. A Dark Angel marine is likely to be more silent and stoic than a marine of the Space Wolf chapter. From here, players can choose their specialisation, the role they play within the team:
Apothacery: Charged with ensuring the teams survival, the Apothacery can provide on-the spot medication, as well as extract a fallen brothers Geneseed for return to the chapter.
Assault Marine: Enjoying the most melee-oriented game-style, Assault Marines are designed to get stuck in combat with the enemy as quick as possible.
Devastator Marines: The opposite of an Assault Marine, Devastator Marines provide death from afar, at as many rounds per minute as possible. They wield the Heavy Weaponry of the kill-team.
Librarian: A keeper of Chapter Lore and master of Psychic abilities, the Librarian can cast offensive and defensive Psychic abilities to aid his teammates. Or he may blow up.
Tactical Marine: The all-purpose, but none-less valuable Marine, he may be carrying a specialist weapon such as a flamethrower, or dealing with enemies at medium range, he is the butter in the Sandwich of Killteam.
Techmarine: A marine sent to study on Mars under the Adeptus Mechanicus, the Techmarine maintains the armour, weaponry and vehicles of the chapter.

Deathwatch also is also designed to allow for more "awesome" moments, in the form of Squad Mode. Each Chapter has a special "Squad mode" that is tailored to its way of fighting, for example a Blood Angel squad leader would lead a more combat oriented squad. These grant bonuses to the squad for fighting as a single unit.
Single Mode also exists and is again, chapter specific. In this the Marine embodies the spirit of his chapter. To use the previous example, a Blood Angel in Single Mode would receive bonuses to close quarter attacks whereas, had he been the squad commander, this ability would have been tempered to better merge with the team.

[gamerman345]

Here have some updated pictures of my marine army I had lying around.


Im going to be playing Black Templars on Saturday, can't wait. Whats the best counter to Dark Angels Terminator spam? theres this one guy that always brings 2 Land Raiders, a load of Termies, and like 10 Scouts. I was thinking either the Emperors Champion and a heavily upgraded crusader mob or some suicide assault squads with those lovely 5pt Plasma Pistols.

[Sifflix]

I thought about picking 40K up as a hobby, but my wallet had a seizure when I saw how costy this shit is. Dear christ.

[frankie penis]

Sifflix posted:

I thought about picking 40K up as a hobby, but my wallet had a seizure when I saw how costy this shit is. Dear christ.

pays off in the end though, you have some neat looking models, unless you're a terribly shit painter.

[nightlord]

Sifflix posted:

I thought about picking 40K up as a hobby, but my wallet had a seizure when I saw how costy this shit is. Dear christ.

Back when i started about 8 years ago, it was alot cheaper.

[WilhelmScreamer]

I am debating adding some scouts to my marine army for some cheap bodies to draw fire with.

Have them sit in the back with sniper rifles and missile launchers.

y/n?

EDIT: content:

[imadaman]

Is it just me or bad name?
Warhammer megathread would have worked, would it not?

[Broguts]

imadaman posted:

Is it just me or bad name?
Warhammer megathread would have worked, would it not?

But what about space crusade?

[imadaman]

Falls under 40k, does it not?

[gufu]

I guess now we can discuss LotR as well... what a great gain.

(I do agree though, Warhammer Megathread was a better name.)

[DaysBefore]

nightlord posted:

Back when i started about 8 years ago, it was alot cheaper.

I don't remember when it was, but I swear there was a time you got boxes of 20 Guardsmen for like $40. Ah, 'twas a glorious time.

[Broguts]

Oh dear God, it's like a really awesome Reb Brown movie.

[Boba_Fett]

Broguts posted:

Oh dear God, it's like a really awesome Reb Brown movie.

[Kevinsevenalt]

Broguts posted:

Oh dear God, it's like a really awesome Reb Brown movie.

Roll, frizzlebeef.

[Vasili]

still want to do a small army of Clansmen



Gondor scotsman what could go wrong?

[Boba_Fett]

Hey Imperium do you want this planet?

[cyclocius]

Finally unlocked Veil of Tears for the Farseer on Last Stand!
It was beautiful, we reached Wave 19 on Bloody, I tapped R and...Nothing left the spawn. We waited 10 seconds, then a Terminator stumbled out at half health, and two Dreadnoughts.

Then Wave 20 came and I went down like a bitch.

[RayvenQ]

Boba_Fett posted:

Hey Imperium do you want this planet?

Hey Chaos, sorry to tell you this, but when you want a world destroyed, the Imperium are the Professionals.

[nightlord]

imadaman posted:

Is it just me or bad name?
Warhammer megathread would have worked, would it not?

The name was a problem. If i called it Warhammer 40k again, new people might think it is for just W40K. If i called it Warhammer megathread, it makes it seem like it's just for that and not things like LoTR or W40K aswell. It's meant to be for all GW products.

Any suggestions on a better name that would not have those problems would be great.

[Jamie1992GSC]

This gives me the strange urge to dig out my Necromunda.

[TrannyAlert]

Me and my friends visited one of these because the models looked cool, however when we got inside we were approached by a very socially awkward man who proceeded to tell us jokes such as

"Why did an alien land in your back garden", "Because you left the landing lights on"

We tried to escape but he kept on pounding us with these jokes and then commented on my green/red shirt. After a while he finally walked off and we sprinted out of the shop.

The models are cool but the people are damn scary.

[Gubbinz96]

I think having Warhammer in the title would have been a lot more helpful for people looking for WH related stuff.

[Zezibesh]

God damn it whenever I see new posts in this thread I think it's the Game of Thrones thread (same icon, same first word)

[Gubbinz96]

nightlord posted:

The name was a problem. If i called it Warhammer 40k again, new people might think it is for just W40K. If i called it Warhammer megathread, it makes it seem like it's just for that and not things like LoTR or W40K aswell. It's meant to be for all GW products.

Any suggestions on a better name that would not have those problems would be great.

Warhammer Megathread (and FRIENDS!!!)
vv


Edit:

Nooooo my automerge

[imadaman]

nightlord posted:

The name was a problem. If i called it Warhammer 40k again, new people might think it is for just W40K. If i called it Warhammer megathread, it makes it seem like it's just for that and not things like LoTR or W40K aswell. It's meant to be for all GW products.

Any suggestions on a better name that would not have those problems would be great.

Warhammer megathread would imply Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k, and I don't remember any LotR discussion except for this thread

[nightlord]

imadaman posted:

Warhammer megathread would imply Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k, and I don't remember any LotR discussion except for this thread

But it's not always about WHF/W40K. I'll name the next one Warhammer Megathread if that's what everyone wants - if more people say they want that i'll do it. Also sorting out what to have in the first post would be helpful. Any suggestions?

[Etcetera]

nightlord posted:

But it's not always about WHF/W40K. I'll name the next one Warhammer Megathread if that's what everyone wants - if more people say they want that i'll do it. Also sorting out what to have in the first post would be helpful. Any suggestions?

Basic race descriptions, list of editions?

[RayvenQ]

TrannyAlert posted:

Me and my friends visited one of these because the models looked cool, however when we got inside we were approached by a very socially awkward man who proceeded to tell us jokes such as

"Why did an alien land in your back garden", "Because you left the landing lights on"

We tried to escape but he kept on pounding us with these jokes and then commented on my green/red shirt. After a while he finally walked off and we sprinted out of the shop.

The models are cool but the people are damn scary.

It varies really from location to location, at my local GW both the managers/staff there (one man stores) have been great and not the stereotypically socially awkward, and while they often crack WHFB/40K related jokes with regulars, they dont bomb newcombers with crap. Hell, they're unusual than most GW employees because they don't try to aggresively upsell us like they're supposed to, instead they make suggestions relevant to whichever army the regular has. Hell, the core gaming group is uusual too, we have a girl in it, but no deal whatsoever is made about it, and barely even mentioned, except for jokes that "hey even she could do better" which we all laugh at, including her.

[nightlord]

We really need to sort out the title. A few people don't like the current one, but going back to Warhammer 40K megathread implies it's not for fantasy/other GW things.

[Jamie1992GSC]

I fail to see a problem with the title. It's a thread about Games Workshop and it's Warhammer series along with it's other series both old and new IE LOTR's, Necromunda etc. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

[nightlord]

Jamie1992GSC posted:

I fail to see a problem with the title. It's a thread about Games Workshop and it's Warhammer series along with it's other series both old and new IE LOTR's, Necromunda etc. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

In the previous thread we talked about it, and it was suggested to call it either Games-Workshop Megathread or Warhammer Megathread. Considering GW does have a few non-WHF/W40K things (Or atleast did at some point) i called it Games-Workshop. Apparantly that's not good enough.

So if everyone could tell me what name they'd like that would be good.

[Jamie1992GSC]

I think the names fine. If everyone is flipping shit cause they don't wanna be open about playing with "Toy Soldiers" then that's their problem.

[nightlord]

Got the name changed as it was causing too many problems.

[imadaman]

nightlord posted:

We really need to sort out the title. A few people don't like the current one, but going back to Warhammer 40K megathread implies it's not for fantasy/other GW things.

Who said it'd have to be Warhammer 40k Megathread? :raise:

[Mastahamma]

Now contains fantasy, yet the OP is still all about 40k

:C

Edited:

which is a terrible shame because Warhammer: Age of Reckoning was the favourite MMO for me

[gamerman345]

WilhelmScreamer posted:

I am debating adding some scouts to my marine army for some cheap bodies to draw fire with.

Have them sit in the back with sniper rifles and missile launchers.

y/n?

EDIT: content:

Scout snipers have lost me every game I have played with them. Not worth the points at all, because you're likely to score around 4-7 wounds every game with them and because their AP is shit anything with a decent armour save is going to survive. You can't choose where to allocate wounds so rending is practically useless against Commander Squads, and its not reliable enough to use against Termies.

I love the Ork Nob btw.

[nightlord]

Mastahamma posted:

Now contains fantasy, yet the OP is still all about 40k

:C

Edited:

which is a terrible shame because Warhammer: Age of Reckoning was the favourite MMO for me

I'm currently deciding what to put in. So far thinking about having this:

- Intro (GW in general)
- Warhammer Fantasy (brief description of setting and races and some pictures)
- Warhammer 40k (brief description of setting and races and some pictures)
- TableTop (Description and pictures)
- Roleplay (Deathwatch, Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy)
- Games (Space marine, Dawn of war series, Warhammer online, Dark Millenium online)
- Other (LoTR, Battlefleet Gothic etc)

[Mastahamma]

there was also that fantasy RTS, the one that wasn't very good, I believe it's called ""Mark of Chaos"

[nightlord]

Mastahamma posted:

there was also that fantasy RTS, the one that wasn't very good, I believe it's called ""Mark of Chaos"

Don't really think it's popular enough to be worth adding.

[Broguts]

Kevinsevenalt posted:

Roll, frizzlebeef.

God dammit, now I need a warboss named Big McLarge-Huge.