1. Post #641
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    Bonde's Avatar
    December 2006
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    Erhm, I haven't read their codex, but from what I have heard, try to include the biggest horde of angry marines geared for close combat you can and you should do okay. They should be quite okay for regular games, but not totally geared for tournaments.
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  2. Post #642
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    December 2005
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    BT don't even have a 5e codex I thought?

    I know there's lots of bitching about the MEQ chapters having fucked up codexes, isn't there ONLY standard, vampirefaggots, and wolffaggots?

       Actually viking spehss mehrines are pretty cool but since this codex is imbalanced as hell they have a bad rap right now   
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  3. Post #643
    RoboWolf's Avatar
    April 2007
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    BT don't even have a 5e codex I thought?

    I know there's lots of bitching about the MEQ chapters having fucked up codexes, isn't there ONLY standard, vampirefaggots, and wolffaggots?

       Actually viking spehss mehrines are pretty cool but since this codex is imbalanced as hell they have a bad rap right now   
    BT have no 5e at this time, the local GW staff doubted seeing one anytime soon which is why I was abit hesitant to use them. As for updates in 5e the online FAQ fills in bits here and there in the BT that have changed.
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  4. Post #644
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    April 2010
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    Anyone have tips for a Black Templar army? Decided to finally get into 40K but I'm still a bit hesitant to go with a BT army mainly just due to being a new player and all.
    Get Assault Squads (remove some of the jetpacks for Crusaders) and Melee Scouts. Lots of them.
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  5. Post #645
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    May 2007
    68 Posts
    Pretty good for a first go, could do with a bit more highlighting, maybe via drybrushing, other than that, always make sure to do the base too.
    What should I highlight the black with? Just a really dark grey? Oh yeah the bases are coming, just haven't really decided on how to model them. I'm thinking snow.


    That model is pretty good for the first thing you have painted. I suggest using a detail brush with mithril silver on the edges of the hammer and the chaos icon, and if you have the patience, try using a lighter brown and a brighter black on the respective areas.
    Do you mean for highlighting or just to paint them in a lighter color?

    Thank you guys for the suggestions, keep them coming, I need the help.
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  6. Post #646
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    April 2010
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    BT have no 5e at this time, the local GW staff doubted seeing one anytime soon which is why I was abit hesitant to use them. As for updates in 5e the online FAQ fills in bits here and there in the BT that have changed.
    Black Templars are better than Vanilla SM in a few ways though.

    1)Accept any Challenge vow gives every unit but Neophytes re-rolls to hit (Preferred Enemy)

    2)All Terminators can get either Tank Hunters or Furious Charge for 3+ pts each. So now your Terminators strike enemy Terminators and Marines first, and they do a shit ton of damage with the 1+ strength bonus and re-rolls to wound from LC's.

    3)The Emperors Champion is only 90 pts, (granted, you have to get a vow with him) and he is one of the few Space Marine Characters that strikes at I5 and WS6 with a weapon that isn't S4. His Sword gives him S6. He also has a 2+ save and a 4+ Invuln.

    4)Their Marshall (BT Captain) gets a choice of anything from a huge armoury, almost twice the goodies that the Vanilla Captains get, and for 20 pts cheaper, because barebones marshalls only cost 80 pts. Oh, and they give every unit LD 10, making Righteous Zeal tests even more dangerous.

    5)Righteous Zeal lets them move forward an extra D6 when shot at.

    6)20 Man squads. In a Space Marine army.

    7)Not even the FAQ changed the fact that BT Multi Meltas, Melta Guns and Las Cannons have AP1.
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  7. Post #647
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    June 2010
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    I put together two of the gun drones.

    I had to pop the parts out by hand, leaving those damn marks. I also overdid the glue a little bit on the left one. No matter, I can paint over them eventually.

    Edited:

    And jesus christ, the glue dries quicker than I thought
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  8. Post #648
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    December 2006
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    What should I highlight the black with? Just a really dark grey? Oh yeah the bases are coming, just haven't really decided on how to model them. I'm thinking snow.



    Do you mean for highlighting or just to paint them in a lighter color?

    Thank you guys for the suggestions, keep them coming, I need the help.
    I meant highlighting. Even rough highlighting helps the look of even a basic miniature a lot.
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  9. Post #649
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    April 2007
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    Are all the different race campaigns in Retribution pretty much the same?
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  10. Post #650
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    April 2010
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    Are all the different race campaigns in Retribution pretty much the same?
    Yeah, although there are slight differences in rewards, and the Tyranids get a bonus mission that the other races don't get.
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  11. Post #651
    sirpopsalot_'s Avatar
    April 2007
    997 Posts
    Yeah, although there are slight differences in rewards, and the Tyranids get a bonus mission that the other races don't get.
    Well that's rather disappointing, I was hoping they'd pretty much all be unique
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  12. Post #652
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    August 2008
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    Alright guys.

    What's your favourite Chaos god, if any.



    people posted:
    rules talk
    You guys talking about the ones made for shits and giggles by someone on /tg/?
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  13. Post #653
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    December 2007
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    most relic/THQ games are shit.

    DOW and CoH were good but most other stuff by them is too arcadey or made for the "we're trying to open our game to wider audiences" which basically means "we want the COD players for money". I mean they spent I think around 3 years on Space Marine and ended up releasing a game which only looked like it could of taken under a year to make with terrible console themed controls and multiplayer.

    Their RTS games usually involved rehashed shit like the infamous SS and DOWII campaigns.

    Edited:

    oh and they want to put rts elements in all their games and they wonder why they're a failing trademark
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  14. Post #654
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    June 2009
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    Just finished the Ork campaign in Retribution. The last cutscene is the greatest thing ever.
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  15. Post #655
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  16. Post #656
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    December 2007
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    why does he never put the backpacks on the models

    just use the body group stool fuck sake

    or is it supposed to be part of the gimmick

    kill dem barbarians

    actually you could pretend skyrim is a recruiting world for marines and marines are supposed to be in their mythology.
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  17. Post #657
    boy i sure do love it when my title doesnt fit
    LuaChobo's Avatar
    December 2009
    6,278 Posts
    needs more bolters
    and make orks attack you hell often
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  18. Post #658
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    July 2009
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    For a Daemonhammer (Thunder Hammer?), it doesn't seem very effective against bandits.
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  19. Post #659
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    October 2007
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    An astartes and a thunder hammer would make a red paste with bandits.
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  20. Post #660
    boy i sure do love it when my title doesnt fit
    LuaChobo's Avatar
    December 2009
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    needs to do 1K damage a hit

    Edited:

    to be canonical of course
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  21. Post #661
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    September 2005
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    And the thunder hammer now does 150 damage, 200 shock damage and knock back, so it's better. I'll release it here and ONLY HERE eventually.
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  22. Post #662
    At least I don't have alzheimer's.
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    January 2011
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    Do the ork choppaz missiles use a blast marker or is it one person?
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  23. Post #663
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    April 2010
    2,432 Posts
    Do the ork choppaz missiles use a blast marker or is it one person?
    Missiles? do you mean Rokkit Launchas? they aren't blast weapons on tabletop.
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  24. Post #664
    At least I don't have alzheimer's.
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    January 2011
    2,297 Posts
    Missiles? do you mean Rokkit Launchas? they aren't blast weapons on tabletop.
    Thanks for clearing that up, I knew my bud was cheating :V
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  25. Post #665
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    October 2007
    7,106 Posts
    Its 24" S8 AP 3 Assault 1
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  26. Post #666
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    May 2009
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    Anyone got those two pictures showing examples of dozens of different regiments? I think it was official, i can't find it anymore.
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  27. Post #667
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    July 2009
    9,805 Posts
    Just read "Helsreach". Absolutely loved it, great book.
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  28. Post #668
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    June 2009
    574 Posts
    Anyone got those two pictures showing examples of dozens of different regiments? I think it was official, i can't find it anymore.


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  29. Post #669
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  30. Post #670
    Praetorian Guard.

    To be honest I didn't expect such thing in W40K universe. They look just like British army in the second half of XIX century.
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  31. Post #671
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    July 2011
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    Most of the Imperial Guard regiments, especially the earlier ones, are based off historical armies.

    The Big Toof River Massacre is basically Rorke's Drift, iirc.
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  32. Post #672
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    December 2009
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    Praetorian Guard.
    To be honest I didn't expect such thing in W40K universe. They look just like British army in the second half of XIX century.
    I miss them. The Praetorian's were half the reason I went Guard when I first started, but I was crushed when I found out they weren't produced anymore. I wish Games Workshop, or anyone really, would produced more random Guard regiments. I know Forge World does that, but those are hella expensive.

    The Praetorian's were so amazing.
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  33. Post #673
    I miss them. The Praetorian's were half the reason I went Guard when I first started, but I was crushed when I found out they weren't produced anymore. I wish Games Workshop, or anyone really, would produced more random Guard regiments. I know Forge World does that, but those are hella expensive.

    The Praetorian's were so amazing.
    I want the Harakoni Warhawks to replace the cadians as the "standard model".
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  34. Post #674
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    April 2010
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    Trying an LR Crusader this week instead. Free S8 AP1 24'' Multi Melta. Mmmm.
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  35. Post #675
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    September 2005
    1,214 Posts
    Meet Rick, the Hardass Stormtrooper with a broken gun.
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  36. Post #676
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    December 2009
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    I want the Harakoni Warhawks to replace the cadians as the "standard model".
    I just want Games Workshop produced all their models in plastic, not metal. A little difficult to mix parts from a Valhallan and a Cadian regiment.
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  37. Post #677
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    October 2007
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    I just want Games Workshop produced all their models in plastic, not metal. A little difficult to mix parts from a Valhallan and a Cadian regiment.
    I know that feel. Thousand sons are plastic and metal mix.

    Although i have parts on arriving soon that I'm going to do some cool conversions with, one is going to be a mix of plastic, finecost and metal.

    I'm going to paint him with me new airbrush. (after some practice on some normal marines.)
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  38. Post #678
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  39. Post #679
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    May 2009
    7,299 Posts
    Anyone got any ideas on what picture i could use for the TableTop banner? I want some sort of banner for each section. Does anyone think this one looks a bit low quality?

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  40. Post #680
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    May 2011
    3,858 Posts
    We need bushmen of Serica miniatures, ANZAC guardsmen, slouch hats and all.
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