1. Post #241
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    February 2009
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    Going to hit up the used book store tomorrow. I plan to trade in a handful of    shitty    books I    didn't actually    read for a class last semester and add some science fiction to my personal library. I have a small list of prospects already, any suggestions?
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  2. Post #242
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    February 2006
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    I've been skipping around in The Beast That Shouted Love at the Heart of the World. It's a collection of short stories by Harlan Ellison. They have all been pretty entertaining so far, so I'll probably pick up a few of his other collections when I finish up with this and Robot Dreams. I love short stories.
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  3. Post #243
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    So I read this scifi book ages ago, chunks of ground from the planet had started floating for whatever reason and the main character lived on a chunk that was considered a part of Great Britain. People moved between the floating islands on airships of some sort, but it seemed that they were actually in space since there was vacuum outside (the islands were inside some sort of bubbles). The main character, a teenage boy, built robots as a hobby. The robots were some sort of steampunk-clockwork hybrid things, requiring strange liquids to be able to do certain tasks. Red, green, and yellow liquids all meant a different thing and you needed to set up a delicate balance between them for the robot to work. The kid was some sort of prodigy at balancing the liquids. There was also some sort of ~special~ (black, maybe) rare liquid that gave robots sentience or at least higher intelligence.
    Pretty early in the book some alien crash-lands on the island the kid lives on. I think he was described as humanoid, but tall, pale and very thin plus carrying all sorts of deadly bladed weapons.

    Anyone read this book or even know it? I really want to read it again.

    As for the ending, I remember some stuff:    The kid and the alien get taken to the island housing governmental institutions, can't remember if they had a monarchy or if they were going to the parliament, but either way it was some important location. They tried to do some tests on the alien, but it goes on a crazy murder spree because of one of the robot liquids (going to assume it was the black one due to being special) and the end was very, very violent.   
    Pretty sure it's


    Though I haven't read it.
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  4. Post #244
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    Currently reading the fourth book in the Black Company series, and it's great.
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  5. Post #245
    Hi, my name is mastermaul, and I'm a butt.
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    exactly - Abnett's writing is very enjoyable and entertaining, but it doesn't have "lasting artistic merit". Ergo, not literature.
    That definition seems to be incredibly subjective and just a bit pretentious.
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  6. Post #246
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    Pretty sure it's


    Though I haven't read it.
    Checked the wikipedia article but it's not it. Oh well.
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  7. Post #247
    exactly - Abnett's writing is very enjoyable and entertaining, but it doesn't have "lasting artistic merit". Ergo, not literature.
    i've noticed that the tastes of the people who say this also happen to exactly line up with what they consider to have "lasting artistic merit"

    how wonderfully convenient
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  8. Post #248
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    That definition seems to be incredibly subjective and just a bit pretentious.
    maybe but as long as we have the canon then it's going to be there

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_canon
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  9. Post #249
    i'm always fuckin' childish, you knew that when you met me.
    Childish's Avatar
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    I've always been adamant that I'd never read books on my iPhone, but I recently decided to give in. I actually don't mind it, laying down and reading in bed in much simpler, as I'm more comfortable on my side. I feel like a traitor to my old paperbacks though.

    Looking for a new book similar to Brave New World. Any ideas?
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  10. Post #250
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    I've always been adamant that I'd never read books on my iPhone, but I recently decided to give in. I actually don't mind it, laying down and reading in bed in much simpler, as I'm more comfortable on my side. I feel like a traitor to my old paperbacks though.

    Looking for a new book similar to Brave New World. Any ideas?
    Have you tried a kindle? Compare reading off of a kindle and reading off an iPhone and reconsider your post.
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  11. Post #251
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    I can read non-fiction regardless on how dull the writing is, because it has a subject I'm interested in most of the time. Fiction almost never entertains me (like 99% of fiction books I've started, I've dropped), but once in a blue moon I'll find an author with more talent than gold almighty. Good examples are Lovecraft, Crichton, Orwell, Abnett, and King. Once I find one of the 'golden-authors' (I like to call them) I usually read everything they've ever written and prop them up on a shelf in my closet. My closet is almost full, sadly. I think I might move my religious collection out soon.

    Edited:

    holy fuck that was a monologue
    Well i think we are on the same page (A hurr). I've read i think 3 books in my time that were fictional: 1984, Catch 22 and Fear and loathing in Las Vegas. These were the only books i liked and mostly because they were very well-written and topics which i tend to like.
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  12. Post #252
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    i've noticed that the tastes of the people who say this also happen to exactly line up with what they consider to have "lasting artistic merit"

    how wonderfully convenient
    That definition seems to be incredibly subjective and just a bit pretentious.
    There's quite a few book I like that I accept have no artistic merit (e.g. Abnett's stuff) and quite a few books I don't like that I accept do have artistic merit (e.g. I can't stand Dickens). Lasting artistic merit isn't subjective - it means that in 50 or 100 years a significant number of people will still look at it and think it has artistic merit, in other words its artistic merit lasts. I bet you that in 2062 no one will care about Gaunt's Ghosts.
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  13. Post #253
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    I bet you that in 2062 no one will care about Gaunt's Ghosts.
    Pretty sure this was said about quite a few books during their time of release. Hell, Lovecraft's writing was little more than entries for a magazine, for the sake of money, not artistic merit.
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  14. Post #254
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    Which of the following should I read first:

    Hitchikers guide to the galaxy
    Dune
    Neuromancer
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  15. Post #255
    i'm always fuckin' childish, you knew that when you met me.
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    Which of the following should I read first:

    Hitchikers guide to the galaxy
    Dune
    Neuromancer
    Hitchhikers. Excellent book.
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  16. Post #256
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    Pretty sure this was said about quite a few books during their time of release. Hell, Lovecraft's writing was little more than entries for a magazine, for the sake of money, not artistic merit.
    well Lovecraft even now isn't really considered part of the canon

    Edited:

    don't get me wrong I enjoy Lovecraft, but his work is a little pulpy
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  17. Post #257
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    July 2011
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    I know this thread isn't for it but I read a book on holiday and it was the best book I have ever read, I have totally forgot the name. I wonder if any of you will know it.

    Basically a guy goes to a desert of some sort for some kind of archaeological dig he meets a woman that guides him around and he falls in love with her etc.
    Something I vaguely remember is one of the lead archaeologists falls onto a spike or which was worked out near to the end, pushed.
    Near to the end of the book they the woman he met and his daughter gets kidnapped by some mad man and he is on a task to find them. Thing I remember about the kidnap is that the madman goes into a house where that woman and the daughter was with another man which then the madman and others burst into the house and kidnap them 2 but cut the guys back open, rips his ribs off and puts his lungs over his shoulder like a bird. Yes it sounds weird but it was a great book. The madman keeps sending videos to the guys emails of videos of him torturing them but then he sends one of his cutting open the woman that he loves and placing her intestines in a boiling pot of something, while she was still alive. Near the end of the book he bursts into a house which the police have surrounded and finds the woman in a closet unharmed which later turns out that the woman he killed was actually the madmans step mum or something like that.

    Sorry if that makes absolutely no sense but I find it hard to create a well structured writing when I am trying to remember so much about the book.
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  18. Post #258
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    May 2005
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    God damn it, I hate living in Brazil where finding sci-fi books is so hard :(
    I tried to find "Shades of Grey", nope, impossible. Greg Egan? Pft, forget it, nobody knows about him here. I think I'm gonna start buying books in english anyway.
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  19. Post #259
    Quite so, ol' chap.
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    The Spencer novels are definitely the best detective serie I've ever read. It's full of humour and sarcasme. The lead character is a cocky, funny, sarcastic, honourable guy who has his own private firm. It's very well written and the books are quite 'fast'. It's about 350 pages per book and you'll be through it in 10 or so hours.
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  20. Post #260
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    Where do you guys get your books from anyway? I'm kinda thinking about buying from Amazon but I don't know if they ship them to Brazil tax-free, I hope so. Going to test it with the "Godwulf Manuscript", since you recommended it, Dominicus.
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  21. Post #261
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    Libraries mostly, I buy the books I read in english though
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  22. Post #262
    Quite so, ol' chap.
    Dominicus's Avatar
    December 2011
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    Where do you guys get your books from anyway? I'm kinda thinking about buying from Amazon but I don't know if they ship them to Brazil tax-free, I hope so. Going to test it with the "Godwulf Manuscript", since you recommended it, Dominicus.
    Awesome. The books are cheap as dirt. It's kinda what made me start reading them in the first place.
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  23. Post #263
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    December 2009
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    Just finished roadside picnic.

    Awesome book, understand why it's a classic.
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  24. Post #264
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    Reading this now. It's quite... interesting.
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  25. Post #265
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    July 2009
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    Picked up Prelude to Foundation from the library today. Right when I finish it I'm moving to Foundation. I figure its time to read it, since many people seem to think it's one of the best scifi series.
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  26. Post #266
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    Absolute classic. Joe Bonham's final speech to the Doctors in chapter X was exceptional. If you don't want to read the entire Novel, at least read chapter X.
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  27. Post #267
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    November 2009
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    Are there any good books about Chernobyl from the survivor's perspective?
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  28. Post #268
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    February 2005
    4,454 Posts
    Where do you guys get your books from anyway? I'm kinda thinking about buying from Amazon but I don't know if they ship them to Brazil tax-free, I hope so. Going to test it with the "Godwulf Manuscript", since you recommended it, Dominicus.
    Amazon for pretty much everything. Some of my rarer books I buy from store links on the author's website.
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  29. Post #269
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    July 2009
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    Where do you guys get your books from anyway? I'm kinda thinking about buying from Amazon but I don't know if they ship them to Brazil tax-free, I hope so. Going to test it with the "Godwulf Manuscript", since you recommended it, Dominicus.
    Don't know how it goes in Brazil, but in Uruguay it cost me over 300 bucks. And that's the ordinary, $139 Kindle. Still the best purchase ever.
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  30. Post #270
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    May 2006
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    I'm sitting here and I can't stop thinking about a book I read over the summer, Imajica the Fifth Dominion. It was good, in fact it was fucking great.
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  31. Post #271
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    July 2011
    183 Posts
    I know this thread isn't for it but I read a book on holiday and it was the best book I have ever read, I have totally forgot the name. I wonder if any of you will know it.

    Basically a guy goes to a desert of some sort for some kind of archaeological dig he meets a woman that guides him around and he falls in love with her etc.
    Something I vaguely remember is one of the lead archaeologists falls onto a spike or which was worked out near to the end, pushed.
    Near to the end of the book they the woman he met and his daughter gets kidnapped by some mad man and he is on a task to find them. Thing I remember about the kidnap is that the madman goes into a house where that woman and the daughter was with another man which then the madman and others burst into the house and kidnap them 2 but cut the guys back open, rips his ribs off and puts his lungs over his shoulder like a bird. Yes it sounds weird but it was a great book. The madman keeps sending videos to the guys emails of videos of him torturing them but then he sends one of his cutting open the woman that he loves and placing her intestines in a boiling pot of something, while she was still alive. Near the end of the book he bursts into a house which the police have surrounded and finds the woman in a closet unharmed which later turns out that the woman he killed was actually the madmans step mum or something like that.

    Sorry if that makes absolutely no sense but I find it hard to create a well structured writing when I am trying to remember so much about the book.
    Anyone?
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  32. Post #272
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    So I read this scifi book ages ago, chunks of ground from the planet had started floating for whatever reason and the main character lived on a chunk that was considered a part of Great Britain. People moved between the floating islands on airships of some sort, but it seemed that they were actually in space since there was vacuum outside (the islands were inside some sort of bubbles). The main character, a teenage boy, built robots as a hobby. The robots were some sort of steampunk-clockwork hybrid things, requiring strange liquids to be able to do certain tasks. Red, green, and yellow liquids all meant a different thing and you needed to set up a delicate balance between them for the robot to work. The kid was some sort of prodigy at balancing the liquids. There was also some sort of ~special~ (black, maybe) rare liquid that gave robots sentience or at least higher intelligence.
    Pretty early in the book some alien crash-lands on the island the kid lives on. I think he was described as humanoid, but tall, pale and very thin plus carrying all sorts of deadly bladed weapons.

    Anyone read this book or even know it? I really want to read it again.

    As for the ending, I remember some stuff:    The kid and the alien get taken to the island housing governmental institutions, can't remember if they had a monarchy or if they were going to the parliament, but either way it was some important location. They tried to do some tests on the alien, but it goes on a crazy murder spree because of one of the robot liquids (going to assume it was the black one due to being special) and the end was very, very violent.   
    I read this years and years ago and I've been wracking my brain trying to remember the name of it, but I can only remember vague details from it. Doesn't the kid make a robot pig companion    that dies    or something?
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  33. Post #273
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    yes, pretty sure he had a pet robot
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  34. Post #274
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    No Country for old men posted:
    Who must think that he thought that they thought that he thought they were very dumb.
    I had to reread that sentence a few times
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  35. Post #275
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    I'm planning on reading Bravo Two Zero and The One That Got Away.
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  36. Post #276
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    I read Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut because my family had a copy and I'd heard some good things about Vonnegut.
    It was REALLY good.
    Also it had this masterpiece of a cover:

    (it looks even worse IRL)

    My favourite quote from it is this poem:
    "Tiger got to hunt,
    Bird got to fly;
    Man got to sit and wonder "why, why, why?"

    Tiger got to sleep,
    Bird got to land;
    Man got to tell himself he understand."

    Edited:

    also going by the stamps in it I'm pretty sure the copy I read my dad borrowed from his university library in early 80's
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  37. Post #277
    I read Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut because my family had a copy and I'd heard some good things about Vonnegut.
    It was REALLY good.
    Also it had this masterpiece of a cover:

    (it looks even worse IRL)

    My favourite quote from it is this poem:
    "Tiger got to hunt,
    Bird got to fly;
    Man got to sit and wonder "why, why, why?"

    Tiger got to sleep,
    Bird got to land;
    Man got to tell himself he understand."

    Edited:

    also going by the stamps in it I'm pretty sure the copy I read my dad borrowed from his university library in early 80's
    Nice, nice, very nice;
    Nice, nice, very nice;
    Nice, nice, very nice--
    So many different people
    In the same device.
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  38. Post #278
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    September 2008
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    I'm gonna buy the Hunger games on Amazon, anyone read it?
    Also grabbed Dune from the library I have no idea what I'm getting into.
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  39. Post #279
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    I'm gonna buy the Hunger games on Amazon, anyone read it?
    Also grabbed Dune from the library I have no idea what I'm getting into.
    Brace for high adventure of first book. Brace for fuckhueg philosophical and political exploration for the rest.
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  40. Post #280
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    I'm assuming that's on Dune.
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