1. Post #2321
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    June 2006
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    I somwhat feel sorry for Shane.
    He loves   /loved    Lori, she just told him to stay the fuck away when Rick came back?

    Yea so she is married, but what was Shane supposed to say?

    "Oh yea so your husband.. Yea he is locked up in the hospital with walkers all over the place. I THINK HE IS TOTALLY FINE"
    I totally agree, if I remember the flashback correctly    the life support machine goes off and Shane checks Rick's heartbeat before leaving the place   .

    Lori could have handled it better but Shane    should have controlled his feelings better and got over it instead of becoming a psycho and ultimately securing his own fate   .
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  2. Post #2322
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    May 2011
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    I don't understand why    everyone having the virus    is such a big deal. It doesn't seem to make that much of a difference.
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  3. Post #2323
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
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    I don't understand why    everyone having the virus    is such a big deal. It doesn't seem to make that much of a difference.
       If your grandpa dies because he's old, he becomes a zombie.
    If someone dies in a car accident, he becomes a zombie.
    If someone dies from AIDS or whatever else, he becomes a zombie.
    if you don't see how that's a big deal, you may need to think a little bit more
     
      
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  4. Post #2324
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    March 2009
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    I don't understand why    everyone having the virus    is such a big deal. It doesn't seem to make that much of a difference.
       That pretty much means the world will never go back to normal   
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  5. Post #2325
    the fuck is this?
    Pops's Avatar
    November 2009
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       That pretty much means the world will never go back to normal   
       Someone is bound to eventually be naturally immune to the virus, that's how evolution works. May take a thousand years, but it will eventually happen.   
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  6. Post #2326
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    January 2005
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       That pretty much means the world will never go back to normal   
    I hate to break it to you, but in the event billions of people die(for any reason), the    world WILL NEVER go back to normal.   

    And that goes double if the cause of the deaths is zombies.
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  7. Post #2327
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    benzi2k7's Avatar
    July 2007
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    I started watching the show back in September 2011 because I love zombies, and over my vacation time I got to read all the comics. One thing I like is that Robert Kirkman and AMC have this mutual understanding that fans of the comics don't need to see the exact same story told twice, so the people over at AMC actually create different circumstances to keep viewers of the television show guessing... Even if that pisses off the diehard fans who hate any sort of adaptation whatsoever. Being that I first watched the television show before reading the comics, I guess my viewpoint is a bit different, but I think it's sad that some people just want a letter-by-letter live-action version of the comics when they already know exactly what's going to happen.
    It's not a mutual understanding on telling a different story, its a lack of being able to tell a story correctly. The writers have no understanding on how to properly convey characters or create tension or emotions without resorting to a redshirt getting bitten, people arguing or trying to act all 2deep4u with dumb morality stuff that goes nowhere (see Dale.)

    Now the sad thing is that this show (similar to something like how Dexter is now) has no reason at all that it can't be told well, there's small glimpses of it improving but its not really enough. They spend too much time in places that don't give good opportunities to convey good drama and they don't create problems for the viewer to actually care about.

    No one wants to watch a bunch of people on a farm for half a season because most of drama then comes from the characters rather than the environment which is bad because the characters in this show are really really awful, even someone like Daryl (sp?). They're not compelling or interesting or deep. They're just.. there and generic. The half-a-zombie from the pilot has more emotion and depth than most of the characters.

    It doesn't help that all the characters are seemingly retarded, which stems from the writers not being able to come up with circumstances to create drama intelligently so they just make someone choose to do something retarded to get them into trouble, e.g. Carl being super-duper explorer boy or Lori somehow crashing on an empty road because she's looking at a map at night time.

    Edited:

    this is the only other show that actually annoys me other than dexter
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  8. Post #2328
    Joyful Mystery's Avatar
    February 2011
    2,049 Posts
    I actually missed the season finale...Anybody know a good place where I can watch it online?
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  9. Post #2329
    TAIWANESE v.2

    May 2011
    2,662 Posts
    I actually missed the season finale...Anybody know a good place where I can watch it online?
    Seen this link posted in this thread before: http://www.couchtuner.com/the-walking-dead
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  10. Post #2330
    Joyful Mystery's Avatar
    February 2011
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    Seen this link posted in this thread before: http://www.couchtuner.com/the-walking-dead
    Thanks, finally.

    Surprising episode. At the very end, though, was that    that big prison place with the "governor" and all that i keep hearing about? I haven't read the comics...   
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  11. Post #2331
    I fucking hate Lori.
    Moofy's Avatar
    April 2010
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    I totally agree, if I remember the flashback correctly    the life support machine goes off and Shane checks Rick's heartbeat before leaving the place   .

    Lori could have handled it better but Shane    should have controlled his feelings better and got over it instead of becoming a psycho and ultimately securing his own fate   .
    But Shane has nothing left, nobody talked bout' his family or anything.
    I still feel sorry for what happend, but yes he    was    a total psycho.
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  12. Post #2332
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    June 2010
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    While I like the show still, I can absolutely agree with all of this when I consider it. I hadn't really thought of it in-depth until I started realizing how many people really don't like the show, but now that I've begun to see what all of the people who dislike have to say about it I can really see where they're coming from. I suppose I'm on the fence about it, then.
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  13. Post #2333
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    March 2011
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    Question, if someone was to dress as Vader or a storm trooper would the walkers attack them? Technically they don't look "lively" and their entire body is covered by a costume so they can't be seen. Top it off with a necklace of walker ears and they also have the scent of a walker. So would they be able to walk amongst a horde safely?
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  14. Post #2334
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    July 2007
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    While I like the show still, I can absolutely agree with all of this when I consider it. I hadn't really thought of it in-depth until I started realizing how many people really don't like the show, but now that I've begun to see what all of the people who dislike have to say about it I can really see where they're coming from. I suppose I'm on the fence about it, then.
    Yeh, I'm not saying it's not enjoyable, it is. It's just.. not a smart show or anything like that when it could be.
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  15. Post #2335
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    January 2005
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    Question, if someone was to dress as Vader or a storm trooper would the walkers attack them? Technically they don't look "lively" and their entire body is covered by a costume so they can't be seen. Top it off with a necklace of walker ears and they also have the scent of a walker. So would they be able to walk amongst a horde safely?
    That's a tough question to answer because we have seen on the show that you can camo yourself using zombie guts to hide the human smell. And if you act like a zombie, they can't recognize you as human by sight.

    But then the show totally forgot about that tactic and no one has used it since, so I don't know if it still 'counts'.

    If it does then I think a sealed outfit like you describe should work fine, especially if you smeared some zombie guts on the outside. You wouldn't want to smear it on the inside for obvious reasons, unless you get off on that kind of thing, which is possible I guess(I won't be judgmental).
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  16. Post #2336
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    November 2007
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    Well Rick did    hide under the corpse of a zombie   
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  17. Post #2337
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    March 2011
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    I thought that was Daryl and T-Dog who did that?
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  18. Post #2338
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    November 2006
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    Rick, T-Dog and Daryl all did.
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  19. Post #2339
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    September 2011
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    That's a tough question to answer because we have seen on the show that you can camo yourself using zombie guts to hide the human smell. And if you act like a zombie, they can't recognize you as human by sight. But then the show totally forgot about that tactic and no one has used it since, so I don't know if it still 'counts'. If it does then I think a sealed outfit like you describe should work fine, especially if you smeared some zombie guts on the outside. You wouldn't want to smear it on the inside for obvious reasons, unless you get off on that kind of thing, which is possible I guess(I won't be judgmental).
    Rick hiding behind the zombie when they were trying to leave Randall behind and shane threw that wrench was kind of the same concept
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  20. Post #2340
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    August 2010
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    Whelp, watched some season 2.
       I officially no longer give a single shit about what happens to Shane. You ungodly asshole   
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  21. Post #2341
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    cecilbdemodded's Avatar
    January 2005
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    Rick hiding behind the zombie when they were trying to leave Randall behind and shane threw that wrench was kind of the same concept
    Not really. The original question was about using a suit of armor(Star Wars or otherwise) to allow you to walk amongst zombies safely because they won't pay attention to you.

    This is very different because merely hiding protects you, sure, but it does not allow you to DO anything. If you can freely roam around in the middle of a herd of zombies imagine what you could accomplish. You could gather supplies that other survivors have to pass on because it's not safe for them. You could make your base camp in the middle of a zombie area and basically use them as a barrier to protect you from other potentially violent groups of survivors.
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  22. Post #2342
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
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    Whelp, watched some season 2.
       I officially no longer give a single shit about what happens to Shane. You ungodly asshole   
    How far have you gotten
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  23. Post #2343
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    August 2010
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    How far have you gotten
    First 3 episodes,    Carl's had his operation and I literally just found out that Shane managed to escape by shooting Otis and leaving him to die   .
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  24. Post #2344

    February 2010
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       If your grandpa dies because he's old, he becomes a zombie.
    If someone dies in a car accident, he becomes a zombie.
    If someone dies from AIDS or whatever else, he becomes a zombie.
    if you don't see how that's a big deal, you may need to think a little bit more
     
      
    And makes everyone immune to    bites   ... so right, other than being a minor inconvenience when dealing with corpses, what's the problem again ?

    That's really well put, sums up all of my problems with this show aswell, especially on those last episodes.
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  25. Post #2345
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
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    And makes everyone immune to    bites   ... so right, other than being a minor inconvenience when dealing with corpses, what's the problem again ?
    I see that no zombie would ever come after you
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  26. Post #2346

    February 2010
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    I see that no zombie would ever come after you
    My scenario doesn't include bad writing where i'd trip over a rock and fall flat on the floor, where the zombie would eat me and tear me apart with his magic strength.
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  27. Post #2347
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
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    yep
    missed my point completely
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  28. Post #2348
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    February 2011
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    And makes everyone immune to    bites   ... so right, other than being a minor inconvenience when dealing with corpses, what's the problem again ?
    So...being eaten alive by zombies is not something to worry about?    even if you're immune it still hurts a lot to get eaten alive.   
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  29. Post #2349
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
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    Ok, picture this.

    A man has a heart attack, alone at home. A couple of friends were coming for a visit. They see his body lying on the floor, and break into the house to help him, but get bitten in the process. That's already 3 zombies

    What I mean is that pretty much every death would become 2; you'd see people getting attacked because they didn't know if a man was a zombie or just sick, and you'd see random killings because someone thought another person was one, when he actually wasn't. Cancer patients would come back to life and infect their doctor/nurse. Firefighters would get bitten while trying to save people.

    Not to mention, they take some time to become walkers. Just imagine a war, not everyone who dies in one gets shot in the head. Even if everyone knew about the disease already, the soldiers wouldn't have time to burn every body/wouldn't have ammo to shoot everyone again. You'd see random walkers, wandering into nearby villages, infecting and eating everyone.

    Everything that involved death would become a disaster, and everything that risked your life would be an even bigger threat, and not only to you.
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  30. Post #2350

    February 2010
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    Ok, picture this.

    A man has a heart attack, alone at home. A couple of friends were coming for a visit. They see his body lying on the floor, and break into the house to help him, but get bitten in the process. That's already 3 zombies
    They get bitten... and ? it's 3 against 1, they could easily take him down.

    What I mean is that pretty much every death would become 2; you'd see people getting attacked because they didn't know if a man was a zombie or just sick, and you'd see random killings because someone thought another person was one, when he actually wasn't. Cancer patients would come back to life and infect their doctor/nurse. Firefighters would get bitten while trying to save people.
    Which is a matter of numbers and adaptation, the zombies might get everyone by surprise first, but the whole thing could be put back into control again.

    Not to mention, they take some time to become walkers. Just imagine a war, not everyone who dies in one gets shot in the head. Even if everyone knew about the disease already, the soldiers wouldn't have time to burn every body/wouldn't have ammo to shoot everyone again. You'd see random walkers, wandering into nearby villages, infecting and eating everyone.
    Then don't wage a fucking war in the face of an obvious crisis ?

    Problem is, you're assuming everyone would be stupid like in the show, which isn't the fucking case, obviously, otherwise the human race would't have survived it's early years.
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  31. Post #2351
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
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    They get bitten... and ? it's 3 against 1, they could easily take him down.
    He'd surely manage to bite/scratch at least one of them
    also, it's 2 against 1

    Which is a matter of numbers and adaptation, the zombies might get everyone by surprise first, but the whole thing could be put back into control again.
    in control? yes
    normal, as it is today? never

    Then don't wage a fucking war in the face of an obvious crisis?
    joke of the year right here
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  32. Post #2352
    the fuck is this?
    Pops's Avatar
    November 2009
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    i'm too lazy to read the last few pages, what are you going on about? if people knew about zombies, they would obviously learn eventually to do headshots. and military would adapt it as default shooting style or something (see season 1, episode 6).
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  33. Post #2353
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
    16,854 Posts
    I'd love to see hoodoo456 give his opinion

    Edited:

    i'm too lazy to read the last few pages, what are you going on about? if people knew about zombies, they would obviously learn eventually to do headshots. and military would adapt it as default shooting style or something (see season 1, episode 6).
    except there aren't guns everywhere
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  34. Post #2354
    the fuck is this?
    Pops's Avatar
    November 2009
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    I'd love to see hoodoo456 give his opinion

    Edited:



    except there aren't guns everywhere
    gun stores and military stations

    guns blazing, derp
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  35. Post #2355
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
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    what I'm trying to say isn't that it's never going to be controlled, just that it's never going to be normal again. sure, everything would be relatively safe, but much worse than it is now.

    also, I don't think gun stores exist everywhere
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  36. Post #2356
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    July 2010
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    They get bitten... and ? it's 3 against 1, they could easily take him down.

    Which is a matter of numbers and adaptation, the zombies might get everyone by surprise first, but the whole thing could be put back into control again.



    Then don't wage a fucking war in the face of an obvious crisis ?

    Problem is, you're assuming everyone would be stupid like in the show, which isn't the fucking case, obviously, otherwise the human race would't have survived it's early years.
    ZOMBIES NEVER EXISTED IN THE TWD UNIVERSES FICTION, IT IS WHY THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO HANDLE OR WHAT TO CALL THEM.
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  37. Post #2357
    DANK
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    July 2011
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    I watched both seasons in the span of a week and can't wait for season 3.
    One thing though,    what ever happened to the neighbour and his kid from the first episode?   
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  38. Post #2358
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    Dennab
    March 2009
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    I'd love to see hoodoo456 give his opinion

    Edited:



    except there aren't guns everywhere
    Opinion on what?
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  39. Post #2359
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
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    you're rating me dumb everytime, yet you haven't said why you think that    everyone being infected    isn't that big of a threat
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  40. Post #2360
    DANK
    Nemisis116's Avatar
    July 2011
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    you're rating me dumb everytime, yet you haven't said why you think that    everyone being infected    isn't that big of a threat
       When most of the population is infected and eating other people its kind of a big threat   
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