That can be a very long time
That can be a very long time
because we're both fighting for two communities even though were are both a part of one of them
We swapped over to ULX. We're in the process of repromoting people and even promoting people further (Lutin's a superadmin now, that guy owns)
oh yeah, ulx, i forgot
disregard my snipe then
I'm so glad I found this thread.
inb4 the lock.
sounds fun and all, but if Setze runs the server(s). he probably looks at a lot more of it's crash logs and shit than you guys, just saying.
It's commonly acknowledged that AD2 destroys CPU when you're pasting shit, to pin the blame on something else simply because you don't like the criticism is fucking stupid.
I'm not going to treat you as if you're a special snowflake because you made a dysfunctional tool. It felt like a slap in the face when you wheeled around and said, "derp, must be your e2!". That seems, once again, fucking stupid.
Beyond that, you blame me for being uncooperative. We gave you the duplication and e2 when asked, provided what little knowledge we had on the subject, offered you an in-person example of the sort of shit that was occurring. We described two or three errors that have been plaguing our server, and though they might not show up on your bug tracker, are issues we're dealing with. I believe we were more than helpful, and didn't ask anything of you. So no, saying "You didn't give me enough help" is fucking stupid.
If you don't quite understand the undercurrent of this post, let me lay it out for you. You're fucking stupid.
edit: I'm still curious as to why this is still a thread. Talk to me on steam if you have any issues with this shit, airing out these ridiculously small grievances with "He said, She said" is, well, fucking stupid.
I just want to see all this sorted somehow. Did you try figuring out the stuff with the buffer?
That specific chip kicks in 500 ms after pasting, and all it does is sort the entities in the contraption into different categories. During the initialization stage it never spikes above 500 ops. The chip itself was built to run at an interval of 30, and the whole thing was pretty much designed to be streamlined so it would be good for running around with friends on servers that might have a poor CPU.
I spent a good amount of time making it so it wouldn't take a retarded amount of ops to run, and considering it's managing the torso, hip, feet, legs and arms of a mech all in one chip, it's pretty op-light.
The problem we were having was, during initialization, the damn thing would toss out an error if the server had been up for too long, or it would skip certain parts of the mech during the sorting process. I tested it after a fresh restart, and had no problems. An hour and a half later, I'd have that error. Could it be, that something is causing the server to fuck up over time? Not only that, but whatever is fucking it up can be tied into the call dupefinished()? And whatever is causing the problem came around within the last six months?
Meanwhile, his tool manages to nearly destroy the server whenever you paste something with it, regardless of the inclusion of e2 or not. I was watching the degradation over time as he was repeatedly pasting the example I provided to him. The CPU spike got worse and worse and two or so minutes after he fucked off the server finally crashed.
Every time I checked to see what crashed it, it spat out the error that a thread was terminated when it shouldn't have been. I forget the explicit error, but it only occurred when AD2 was on the server, and I haven't seen that crash at all since I removed it. I don't know what it's conflicting with, but I have a vague idea that garbage information is not being deleted.
I talked to donovan about it, remember? I managed to go an entire conversation without telling him to eat a dick, and he was perfectly civil about fielding my complaints with possible solutions.
This is entirely a non-issue. The removal of a tool shouldn't inspire people to attack me because of occasional harsh words or actions that have occurred over a year ago. You are grasping at straws, and whatever you hope to accomplish by randomly assigning me the title of "asshole" or "pompous prick with a little man syndrome" is a complete mystery to me.
Hi There! Friendly GGG admin Foran here! I understand you guys are frustrated with ses, but to be fair, he's pretty damn frustrated with you guys, and to be honest, so am I.
For those not in the know, for the past year and a half, I have been basically catering to karbine (and by proxy, all of you who worship him for whatever reason). I've added everything he wanted me to add, one of the things which was dupe 2 itself.
Anyways, disregarding that, and the fact that EVERY TIME THINGS GO WRONG WITH THE SERVER YOU COME WHINING AND COMPLAINING TO ME FIRST SINCE I'M SUCH A STAND UP GUY, you all have been pretty hard on each other and I'd like for you all to take a look at yourselves. This is a video game. A game. a non-real fantasy world for you all to love and enjoy and what not!!!!!
Understandably many of you seem to think that all of the server administration have some undying hatred for you. We don't. We're just really, really put off by the fact that you dudes over here (in what should be the contraption forum if karb had anything to say about it) argue over and over again about random benign things that have no bearing on the actual state of the server (read Forum drama created by the temporary removal of a tool). We're also put off by the fact that you all seem to sperg out REALLY GODDAMN HARD when something doesn't go EXACTLY THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO.
I'm tired of that. And angry that it is still happening. I can't be there every waking moment to fix the server ( THOUGH I'M ON PRETTY OFTEN BECAUSE I HAVE NO LIFE!! WOW!!! FORAN NEEDS TO GET A JOB ), and I can't really disregard what the server owner (Sestze) holds as right, (Mostly because he generally is right!!!!!)
Anyways, all I'm trying to say is that I'd really appreciate it if you dudes stopped arguing about silly things like this! I'm doing the best I can to get into contact with multiple lua scripters, I'm organizing dupe folders, managing addons, banning schmucks that annoy you or attempt to crash the server while you build, and so on. Please just calm down. It would make my life a lot easier!!!! Ok Thanks, I love you dudes, bye!!!!!!
people worship karbine?
Stop the bullshit before we have another McBuilds!
I don't want to get into a discussion that I don't have anything to do with, but just for the record - my singleplayer and multiplayer both crashed whenever I unfreezed stuff by double tapping the "R" button.
Removing Adv.Duplicator 2 fixed it, so Sest's right on the fact that it is buggy sometimes, but I think the whole drama is a bit overdone here.
My two cents.
hahaha oh god
people don't like me anymore because i won't release the stuff i put on youtube
It seems to me that AD2 only starts to eat CPU and gets worse as time goes on, eventually LERPing with every spawn. I think Sestze is probably right about there being leftover information that eventually accumulates. That would explain a lot. The question is where does it come from and why does it stay. That really should be fixable.
I still don't see why you guys are pissed off that an owner of a server is doing what he wants, its his server why are you complaining?
it isn't his server but he is charged with its control
technically, all changes are supposed to be run down by lazer, foran, and kafouille
Well, it looks like Foran is okay with the changes. If Foran works closely with the other two, couldn't we assume that they approve of this action as well?
I own the hardware and Lazer/Kaf are MIA most of the time. I discussed it with Lazer, and he agreed that the server is far more stable now. We're waiting to test it next week with your suggestion where we remove AD1 and add AD2 on Sunday, and that'll start yet another week long test to see if there's a conflict.
If it's just shit, it's going to get removed until an update fixes a significant part of it or until one of us has the time/energy to figure out what's going on with it.
I have a plan? I know it sounds crazy, but I do have a plan.
edit: I still own the server, when I took over, I repromoted the people who had positions beforehand because I defer to people who know what the fuck (Kaf, Lazermaniac, Foran, Sharps, etc.) That's what they're there to do. Admins deal with the current day to day operations such as banning idiots, superadmins work towards long term stability and projects. You failed to be a part of both the maintain the peace crowd as well as "shaping the server for everyone's enjoyment", so you lost that position after a long as time of waffling on my and Foran's part. You then committed the ultimate sin of bad posting, and I permabanned you for it.
You're bad at posting.
Also nobody worships karbine. He just has the habit of stating the blatantly obvious in simple words, like the Ron Paul of Facepunch. [sub]Also he's been playing since fucking forever. I remember him being on this forum when I started playing back in like 2006. The days before smartsnap and wire.[/sub]
It's a unique situation, RedReaper, and it's undeniable that there are issues with the addons on GGG. Stating flatly "welp no problems here in single player" is pretty dumb as you are most definitely not running Evolve, ULX, or SPP, nor are you using AD2 as frequently as the users on GGG happened to. It's not analogous, so you should stop saying that.
In fact, anyone that says that particular statement should stop saying it because it doesn't make sense, logically speaking.
Yes I'm sure that ULX or SPP or Evolve + AD2 = servercrashage. ONLY on GGG. No other servers, just GGG, because AD2 doesn't like you.
If there's any way of fixing it, you probably eliminated that by telling the maker of AD2 to "shut his whore mouth" (pretty sure if I did that to you I'd be banned instantly, just a bit of role reversal). Smooth. I think you're jumping to conclusions on things, and just overall, yeah, you're being a dick. It's harsh, but I mean you kinda are.
Imagine if you were playing on a server someone else ran, and wire caused issues so they removed E2. Or adv duplicator. Or PHX. You would be understandably frustrated, as many of us are.
Put AD2 back on the server for a week, crashes and all, if only to entertain, and just don't fuck with anything--don't even log into the server or even play garrys mod at all. Give yourself a week to calm down, let things settle, and then look at things from a different angle. If many people are running the same addons and not having problems, look at what is different, and try adjusting things gradually. There's no need to nuke a major addon and/or cause a shitstorm and/or go hating people. And yes, while you and others are admins, it does no good if you all agree to do something that people hate. That costs you players and fractures the community. You can be egotistical and call them wrong, even if you're right and they ARE wrong, but they can go elsewhere. That doesn't benefit you.
wait no I won't because that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. "don't play gmod for a week and totally ignore your server and let us do whatever on it"
Are you aware of how ass-backwards retarded that sounds? How the hell would putting back an addon that broke the server that we verified as having conflicts fix anything other than apparently allowing the community to forgive me for some sin I've apparently committed.
Dude, shut the fuck up. All of your comments thus far on this have been worse than karbine's. At best, you've been throwing out useless comments about your ex girlfriend (which, while I congratulate you on feeling the touch of a woman, doesn't fucking matter) or suggesting some incredibly stupid theories or giving absolutely terrible advice. Normally I'd shy away from suggesting anyone on the internet kill themselves, but for you I'll make an exception. Please, for the love of god, stop posting and hang yourself.
I'm being lectured on how to run my own server by a dude that only plays single player, and changed his name almost daily because people hated his dumb ass that much. Seriously, am I the only one that remembers his escapades in the contraptions subforum where he was sockpuppeting with "bluereaper" while posting dumb shit all the time?
This is the quality of individual I have to deal with. These are the people telling me how to run my shit.
Unless you being retarded is some sort of long-standing meta troll that's existed for the past 3 years or so. God I only hope. Please tell me you are trolling.
(User was banned for this post ("Lots of flaming throughout the thread. Learn to play nice." - postal))
Its his server, let him do what he wants, and if you can't deal with that then just leave it. Is that so hard?
holy shit I can't believe how unreasonably angry I am about that post. It's like a super-condensed post of pure shit. A torrent of absolute crap that is neither grounded in fact nor reality and somehow manages to offend all five senses at once. I taste nothing but bile and feel nothing but contempt for you RedReaper, you are truly the dregs of the internet, and I have no idea how you haven't been run out of here on a rail for your crimes against posting and sanity.
Please stop posting and kill yourself. I won't bring politics into it, I won't bring your stupid fucking history into it, and I won't say anything beyond this: you are a terrible human being and I would feel no remorse whatsoever if a car careened off the road into the side of your house, opening up your "lair" to sunlight and you to unimaginable pain. As you lie there, gasping for air in a futile attempt to breathe after your ribs have been shattered and puncture your lungs like a pin cushion, the driver would stumble out of the car in a fugue, trip over, gaze upon your face and vomit. There you lie, stomach acid slowly dissolving your eyes as blood fills your lungs and your skin burns in the sun like a piece of wax paper exposed to a candle. You completely worthless piece of horse shit. I can't think of anything more pointless than your posting, and I can't imagine why you'd even bother to grace our presence with your vile, inane spectacles about what aught to be done to a community you do not control and are not a part of.
You're going a little too far there, Ses. Even though some stuff here is wrong, there's no need to go THAT hostile. Even wishing death on your worst enemy is a bad thing.
SOME stuff is wrong? This whole entire thread is a bitchfest about me removing a stupid fucking tool to test something on the server. Every successive post I see from mouthbreathers like karbine and redreaper and even you, Jackpody make me that much more annoyed about the whole process. You don't have any general information beyond "well these other servers that are completely unlike GGG run it perfectly fine".
We have completely different objectives. I'm looking for an uptime of greater than six hours, something the other servers (Waxx, Almost There, Killbox, etc.) can't do because of their, often times, misguided user base. I was going to be more harsh, but they at least have the benefit of not knowing. You dumb motherfuckers should know, so why the hell should I pull any punches?
Jesus christ, and you act as if I should be pandering to you, a complete slave to democracy where I wait hand and foot upon all of you dumb faggots for eternity while you get all your ducks in a row. Why should I beg forgiveness from a bunch of spiteful children who use bastardized chips of mine to build things, use my server to build them on, and then yell at me when I decide to make a decision for their net benefit? You spoiled, rotten little shits.
Does this mean I'll stop doing things for the good of the server? No, I still play there too, and I happen to build shit so obviously I'm going to try to make it work for my sake. AD2 has a few useful features that I'd love to use but obviously I had some trouble with it on the server, so that's why it's gone. This monumentally obvious fact has somehow escaped your grasp, and you're lashing out at me as if I owe you something.