[thisispain]

JumpinJackFlash posted:

That and you said,Asians are minorities too, yet statistically Blacks and Latinos are the most likely to be incarcerated for violent crimes.

he said impoverished people, not minorities.

Asians in the US aren't as impoverished as black and latino people.

[ButtsexV3]

Sanius posted:

that is true because institutional racism has been ruining the lives of minorities for hundreds of years. as a result minorities are more likely to be impoverished and impoverished people are more likely to commit crimes

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and even with that being said it's racist to assume that someone who committed a crime is black

they can still work out of impoverishment. There's a pretty big difference between lazy nigger (or other racial slur) and respectable gentleman (or lady) who happens to be of a minority ethnicity.

[thisispain]

ButtsexV3 posted:

they can still work out of impoverishment. There's a pretty big difference between lazy nigger and respectable gentleman (or lady) who happens to be of a minority ethnicity.

so if a black person is lazy they are a "nigger" but if they are a respectable gentleman or lady they just happen to be of a minority ethnicity.

mmkay

[Dougz]

thisispain posted:

so if a black person is lazy they are a "nigger" but if they are a respectable gentleman or lady they just happen to be of a minority ethnicity.

mmkay

naw man, i know what he's saying. there's niggers/wetbacks/honkeys/chinks/whatevers, but they're all a small part of their respectable ethnic groups. And usually if you're referring to them as one of those terms they're the least respectable crowd in the group.

[ButtsexV3]

thisispain posted:

so if a black person is lazy they are a "nigger" but if they are a respectable gentleman or lady they just happen to be of a minority ethnicity.

mmkay

Not necessarily lazy, I'm talking the regular shit that makes a person like the girl in the news article the way they are, which can include laziness, entitlement, and a ton of other factors. Also, it can happen to blacks, whites, hispanics, whatever race you may choose as long as they grow up in shitty living conditions.

Mentioned above is my fault but other than that you just created the worlds most absurd strawman argument

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Dougz posted:

naw man, i know what he's saying. there's niggers/wetbacks/honkeys/chinks/whatevers, but they're all a small part of their respectable ethnic groups. And usually if you're referring to them as one of those terms they're the least respectable crowd in the group.

pretty much this.
Entirely hypothetical situations:
if an african american male came into my restaurant and bought a hamburger and ate it, he's a black man.
if an african american male came into my restaurant with his pants below his ass, yelled his order at my waitresses, and walked off without paying, it's an entirely different scenario.

[TurbisV2]

Rusty100 posted:

did she get arrested while at the barbers?

i dont think she knows what that is

[thisispain]

Dougz posted:

naw man, i know what he's saying. there's niggers/wetbacks/honkeys/chinks/whatevers, but they're all a small part of their respectable ethnic groups. And usually if you're referring to them as one of those terms they're the least respectable crowd in the group.

well nigger doesn't disrespect the small part of their respectable ethnic groups. it just disrespects everyone who's black.

[TomoAlien]

All I can say is:
WHAT.

THE.

FUCK!?

[Dougz]

thisispain posted:

well nigger doesn't disrespect the small part of their respectable ethnic groups. it just disrespects everyone who's black.

if you're willing to hold a 20+ year old grudge against the word then that's your fault homes

[thisispain]

Dougz posted:

if you're willing to hold a 20+ year old grudge against the word then that's your fault homes

homes?
it's holmes.
and it's not a grudge, more an observation on what the actual word means.

[Zeke129]

Dougz posted:

if you're willing to hold a 20+ year old grudge against the word then that's your fault homes

How is it a 20+ year grudge if the word is STILL being used oppressively

[JumpinJackFlash]

thisispain posted:

he said impoverished people, not minorities.

Asians in the US aren't as impoverished as black and latino people.

True, but as I said there's a lot more to crime than just a few specific things. As a society we finally have a chance to really analyze the situation and form some sort of plan to solve the issues. What about all the poor people in rural areas who don't commit crimes? What about the minorities in small towns who aren't part of the criminal elements? Statistically in the town where I went to school, Caucasians are most assured to be the perpetrators of crimes, yet, there's a small but noticeable community of Latinos. In the town further down the highway, there's a fuckton of Asians that, I assume, were brought here by a wizard because they weren't here two years ago. In the other direction, lots and lots of Somalians who account for a LOT of crime in the city while the "local" African American population does not.

There's more to it than just poverty, or institutional racism, or any one thing. I truly believe it's a combination of many factors, in the right (or wrong, rather) ways that cause a specific increase in crime.

[Dougz]

dear god don't get your panties ina bunch, its a damn word

[JumpinJackFlash]

Dougz posted:

dear god don't get your panties ina bunch, its a damn word

Words can hurt, you know, sometimes a lot more than people like to admit.

But I do see your point.

[thisispain]

Dougz posted:

dear god don't get your panties ina bunch, its a damn word

uh yeah
words used to express something.
either i regard your words, or i just dismiss them as replacements for grunts.
now i'm inclined to do the second one.

[Dougz]

thisispain posted:

uh yeah
words used to express something.
either i regard your words, or i just dismiss them as replacements for grunts.
now i'm inclined to do the second one.

man, i live in an urban california area where whites are the minority, which in turn presents us with a whole lot of racist remarks from blacks/mexicans. its just a fucking word, get the fuck over it.

[ButtsexV3]

every time thisispain posts in this section I think everyone loses a couple hundred brain cells

[thisispain]

Dougz posted:

man, i live in an urban california area where whites are the minority, which in turn presents us with a whole lot of racist remarks from blacks/mexicans. its just a fucking word, get the fuck over it.

lol so do I
i'm not going around calling people niggers though, because some of the people you call niggers happen to be my friends.

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ButtsexV3 posted:

every time thisispain posts in this section I think everyone loses a couple hundred brain cells

i think you're working your brain a little hard if you lose that many brain cells.

[Zeke129]

ButtsexV3 posted:

every time thisispain posts in this section I think everyone loses a couple hundred brain cells

but how could you possibly lose any more