1. Post #41
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    lavacano's Avatar
    October 2008
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    Is this from something?

  2. Post #42
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    Dennab
    July 2010
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    I wish the NHS system was as seriously taken now as it was in the late 1940s.

    Despite having exited a costly and devastating war, and massively in financial trouble, Britain managed to implement the NHS. Surely we shouldn't consider getting rid of it when the Economy is actually improving?

  3. Post #43
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    June 2009
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    It's still better than American Healthcare.
    Do you honestly believe waiting in line for years while you die slowly of a "non-emergency" condition is better than being treated swiftly, regardless of expense? A free steaming turd dropping in your lap is still a steaming turd.

    The system itself is fine. The government meddling, the insurance companies, and Big Pharma are the ones keeping our health care down.
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  4. Post #44
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    October 2006
    639 Posts
    Is this from something?
    It's Bollo from The Mighty Boosh.

  5. Post #45

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    Do you honestly believe waiting in line for years while you die slowly of a "non-emergency" condition is better than being treated swiftly, regardless of expense? A free steaming turd dropping in your lap is still a steaming turd.

    The system itself is fine. The government meddling, the insurance companies, and Big Pharma are the ones keeping our health care down.
    You do realise we have private healthcare alongside the NHS right?

  6. Post #46
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    July 2006
    2,630 Posts
    My mum gets paid less for being an A&E nurse which basically includes fixing really fucked up people than the receptionists who apparently sit on facebook games all day and answer a call every hour or so

    Edited:

    no wonder the NHS is a massive drain of money and is pretty shit as well
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  7. Post #47
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    October 2007
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    My mum gets paid less for being an A&E nurse which basically includes fixing really fucked up people than the receptionists who apparently sit on facebook games all day and answer a call every hour or so

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    no wonder the NHS is a massive drain of money and is pretty shit as well
    You get lazy receptionists, lazy doctors, lazy nurses, lazy secretaries, lazy lab technicians, lazy people basically. I hear plenty of stories about incompetent or lazy doctors getting people killed because they do not do enough work or they do it wrong. Of course you also get good hard working people too. Problem is the lazy and incompetent people are not always weeded out which seems to be quite a big problem in the NHS (although it is a big problem in every company). This will not change while the NHS keeps getting its funding cut - good management costs money.

  8. Post #48
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    June 2010
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    Also, there just aren't enough people qualified to replace some of the ineffective staff. You hear about them bringing in migrant nurses, (the Express loves those stories) but the reason that they have to do that is because the current system requires a degree for fucking everything - you've got to take time to go to college to do a dedicated nursing degree, which many people cannot, as they don't have the time or money. For example, I know a few people who used to work at nursing homes and would make amazing nurses if it was possible for a short course, but to actually do nursing, you have to go to college for a few years, and they can't afford that. If they went to the older system when it was a course that took a few weeks, if you had prior experience in a care environment, they'd have no surplus of good, efficient workers for nurses and the like, and would be able to kick out the incompetent members.

  9. Post #49
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    February 2007
    7,656 Posts
    The government position on healthcare drives me mad.

    The amount the UK spends on healthcare per person is low when compared to many other countries with good health services, yet the government keeps complaining that the NHS is spending too much. What?

    The government say that privatising parts of the NHS will make it cheaper. How is this sensible? Competition might drive down prices but at the end of the day private firms are there to make a profit so it is impossible for them to offer as low a price as the private sector. Here is how some of the existing NHS privatisation schemes go: thing is privatised, private firm quotes very low price for services. A year or two later they then raise the price massively and the NHS is forced to pay the new massively inflated price (since they got rid of their internal service years ago).

    Many services in the NHS are understaffed and over-tasked, with large amounts of unpaid overtime propping up some services. Healthcare is expensive and it doesn't get any cheaper in a recession, yet NHS budgets are still cut, while MPs get pay rises.
    Isn't it nice when the Conservative party privatises a nationalised service?
    It always turns out well.
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  10. Post #50
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    September 2006
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    Do you honestly believe waiting in line for years while you die slowly of a "non-emergency" condition is better than being treated swiftly, regardless of expense? A free steaming turd dropping in your lap is still a steaming turd.

    The system itself is fine. The government meddling, the insurance companies, and Big Pharma are the ones keeping our health care down.
    Then go private, lots of people go private for an ongoing illness or where they need to stay overnight, health insurance is included in most jobs. The longest I had to wait was 2 months for an appointment, I thought they'd lost my records or something

  11. Post #51
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    st0rmforce's Avatar
    February 2008
    3,594 Posts
    I'm far too cynical towards politicians to trust any of them with anything.

  12. Post #52
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    April 2007
    4,167 Posts
    Jesus Christ leave the NHS the fuck alone, just push the budget up a bit and the leave it.

  13. Post #53
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    February 2006
    1,264 Posts
    I think it was Steve Coogan who said that trusting the Tories with the NHS was almost as bad as trusting Harold Shipman with it.