[Stizzles]

kitthehacker posted:

But also good. Unlike iwrestledabearonce.

iwabo is good, it's just that they don't like to deviate from their style, which is weird when you think about how they put random genres into songs all the time. all of their songs basically sound the same, except a few songs that stand out like Karate Nipples on the new album:

it makes no sense when people say they're untalented just because they like to make overly fast and spastic music, because they are definitely not.
they pull it off well every time they use a different genre in a song, and the less spastic parts are also very good.
so basically, they would be able to make pretty much any kind of music well, but they just choose to make music like this as it's their style.

[kitthehacker]

I personally think the vocals are among the worst I've ever heard, and that really puts me off.

[Stizzles]

kitthehacker posted:

I personally think the vocals are among the worst I've ever heard, and that really puts me off.

What's so bad about it?

[Eluveitie]

I don't like iwabo purely because they put so much stuff into their songs. I can't keep up.

[kitthehacker]

Stizzles posted:

What's so bad about it?

I just hate that screechy type of vocals. There's no diction whatsoever and the tone is exactly the same the whole way through.

I also agree with Eluveitie, they overload their songs with stuff to the point of it having no structure.

[Stizzles]

kitthehacker posted:

I just hate that screechy type of vocals. There's no diction whatsoever and the tone is exactly the same the whole way through.

I also agree with Eluveitie, they overload their songs with stuff to the point of it having no structure.

you probably won't like The Sawtooth Grin or Cloacal Kiss then :

[_Hime]

Hey so you guys seem pretty knowledgeable in prog metal and stuff can you give me a recommendation?? I kind of like Dream Theatre's heavy stuff like "Nightmare to Remember", that sort of thing but I was looking for something strictly instrumental. I don't really like the singing parts so if I could find a band that plays that sorta style of music but without some shiety vocalist clogging everything up that would be pretty neat!

[Hakita]

_Hime posted:

Hey so you guys seem pretty knowledgeable in prog metal and stuff can you give me a recommendation?? I kind of like Dream Theatre's heavy stuff like "Nightmare to Remember", that sort of thing but I was looking for something strictly instrumental. I don't really like the singing parts so if I could find a band that plays that sorta style of music but without some shiety vocalist clogging everything up that would be pretty neat!

You could try Liquid Tension Experiment.
They're not as heavy as Dream Theater's new stuff, but it's a side project by Portnoy, Petrucci and Rudess.

[_Hime]

Hakita posted:

You could try Liquid Tension Experiment.
They're not as heavy as Dream Theater's new stuff, but it's a side project by Portnoy, Petrucci and Rudess.

Yeah I've listened to this already and it was pretty awesome but I wish I could find some more like it!

[Hakita]

_Hime posted:

Yeah I've listened to this already and it was pretty awesome but I wish I could find some more like it!

Well, how about Animals As Leaders?
Some of their stuff is really heavy.

[Eluveitie]

Hakita posted:

Well, how about Animals As Leaders?
Some of their stuff is really heavy.

Most of their stuff is heavy.

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_Hime posted:

Hey so you guys seem pretty knowledgeable in prog metal and stuff can you give me a recommendation?? I kind of like Dream Theatre's heavy stuff like "Nightmare to Remember", that sort of thing but I was looking for something strictly instrumental. I don't really like the singing parts so if I could find a band that plays that sorta style of music but without some shiety vocalist clogging everything up that would be pretty neat!

Cloudkicker, TesseracT and Uneven Structure

[_Hime]

Eluveitie posted:

Most of their stuff is heavy.

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Cloudkicker, TesseracT and Uneven Structure

Mehh most of those bands weren't really my cup of tea, never been a fan of the growly vocals and stuff like that they've always kinda bored me and cloudkicker kind of sounded like someone just making stuff up as he goes along without any really thought of it.

Animals as Leaders was pretty interesting though! Gonna check them out a bit further.

[Eluveitie]

Each to his own, but Cloudkicker is a goddamn genius.

[Pal13]

_Hime posted:

Mehh most of those bands weren't really my cup of tea, never been a fan of the growly vocals and stuff like that they've always kinda bored me and cloudkicker kind of sounded like someone just making stuff up as he goes along without any really thought of it.

Animals as Leaders was pretty interesting though! Gonna check them out a bit further.

Have you heard Mastodon yet? They are essential.

[_Hime]

Pal13 posted:

Have you heard Mastodon yet? They are essential.

Listened to a few songs and they seem okay but that might be just a bad first impression as they kinda seem like it might be good, any recommendations for albums/songs?

[Godline]

_Hime posted:

Listened to a few songs and they seem okay but that might be just a bad first impression as they kinda seem like it might be good, any recommendations for albums/songs?

Crack the Skye

[Franke_R!?]

_Hime posted:

Mehh most of those bands weren't really my cup of tea, never been a fan of the growly vocals and stuff like that they've always kinda bored me and cloudkicker kind of sounded like someone just making stuff up as he goes along without any really thought of it.

Animals as Leaders was pretty interesting though! Gonna check them out a bit further.

This is boring? Okay then.

[_Hime]

Franke_R!? posted:

This is boring? Okay then.

Yup this is like the definition of generic boring metal

[Franke_R!?]

_Hime posted:

Yup this is like the definition of generic boring metal

That's cool.

Edited:

Here is the best of metal. (srs)

[_Hime]

Franke_R!? posted:

That's cool.

I'm sorry I enjoy music that's a little bit beyond "oh hey lets tune our guitars down two steps and then play in pentatonic minor and harmonic minor that's never been done. Yay and we can slap some horrible vocals over top too to get some main stream appeal"

But you know, simple brains like simple music I guess?

[Franke_R!?]

_Hime posted:

I'm sorry I enjoy music that's a little bit beyond "oh hey lets tune our guitars down two steps and then play in pentatonic minor and harmonic minor that's never been done. Yay and we can slap some horrible vocals over top too to get some main stream appeal"

But you know, simple brains like simple music I guess?

I do like simple music, no shame in that because I'm special

Edited:

And they are tuned to Bb, F, Bb, Eb, F, Bb, Eb fyi.

Edited:

And I can see how TesseracT is a bit boring but those vocals, damn.

[_Hime]

Franke_R!? posted:

That's cool.

Edited:

Here is the best of metal. (srs)

I can't believe they actually performed any of this shit live though jesus christ.

[Hakita]

_Hime posted:

I'm sorry I enjoy music that's a little bit beyond "oh hey lets tune our guitars down two steps and then play in pentatonic minor and harmonic minor that's never been done. Yay and we can slap some horrible vocals over top too to get some main stream appeal"

But you know, simple brains like simple music I guess?

Insulting any musical genre is not cool.

[_Hime]

Hakita posted:

Insulting any musical genre is not cool.

Um how was I insulting the genre I was just insulting the band.

[Hakita]

_Hime posted:

Um how was I insulting the genre I was just insulting the band.

Alright then, re-read my post, except change the word 'genre' into the word 'band'.

[_Hime]

Hakita posted:

Alright then, re-read my post, except change the word 'genre' into the word 'band'.

So insulting garbage manufactured garbage pop music isn't cool? Sounds like you're a little bit dumb imho!.

[Franke_R!?]

Pop! Pop!

[prettyprincess]

Hakita posted:

Alright then, re-read my post, except change the word 'genre' into the word 'band'.

There is such a thing as music that is horrible.

[Stizzles]

Hakita posted:

Alright then, re-read my post, except change the word 'genre' into the word 'band'.

but making fun of music we don't like is fun.... :(

[Hakita]

prettyprincess posted:

There is such a thing as music that is horrible.

Subjective.

Stizzles posted:

but making fun of music we don't like is fun.... :(

Don't worry stizzles, I'm just the opinion police.

[MotherPuncher]

_Hime posted:

I'm sorry I enjoy music that's a little bit beyond "oh hey lets tune our guitars down two steps and then play in pentatonic minor and harmonic minor that's never been done. Yay and we can slap some horrible vocals over top too to get some main stream appeal"

But you know, simple brains like simple music I guess?

well look at you all high and mighty, please indulge me in that complicated music exclusively made for you smart folk

[Gargomon]

Hakita posted:

Well, how about Animals As Leaders?
Some of their stuff is really heavy.

I've seen them live twice now and they can get heavy as shit. It surprised me the first time.

[MotherPuncher]

Franke_R!? posted:

I do like simple music, no shame in that because I'm special

Edited:

And they are tuned to Bb, F, Bb, Eb, F, Bb, Eb fyi.

that's a low Ab I'm hearing there, brah

[Gargomon]

Have you guys heard the new Veil of Maya? Personally, I think they've shown a lot of growth since the last album. I'm not on the Punisher fanboat though. Favorite from Eclipse is probably The Glass Slide.

[prettyprincess]

Hakita posted:

Subjective.

If beauty is a value as important as truth, and the level of good / bad music is based on that, then there IS such a thing as bad music, which can be objectively measured.

You're like the twenty billionth person to say durrhurr music subjective without thinking about anything.

People can like whatever music they like: likes and dislikes are subjective, but there is music theory, and there is a reason why we have that.

[Gargomon]

Also, please tell me someone has heard Zechs Marquise?

[Franke_R!?]

MotherPuncher posted:

that's a low Ab I'm hearing there, brah

Didn't really pay attention, brah. Just posted what the bassist of the band said once.

[schnibbles]

I'm anticipating new The Alaya Conscious. What I have heard sounds promising. Kinda similar to Monuments, Tesseract and Animals as Leaders.

[Gargomon]

schnibbles posted:

I'm anticipating new The Alaya Conscious. What I have heard sounds promising. Kinda similar to Monuments, Tesseract and Animals as Leaders.

Never heard of them. What's a good song to recommend? Also, I'm glad to see some Monuments love.

[kitthehacker]

_Hime posted:

I'm sorry I enjoy music that's a little bit beyond "oh hey lets tune our guitars down two steps and then play in pentatonic minor and harmonic minor that's never been done. Yay and we can slap some horrible vocals over top too to get some main stream appeal"

But you know, simple brains like simple music I guess?

At no point does Concealing Fate use pentatonic minor or harmonic minor scales in the same way most metal bands do. It also uses very complex polyrhythmic stuff (which is very very easy to pick up on if you know anyting)
Ironic that you say simple brains like simple music when you don't understand any of the point of the band or the genre as a whole.