1. Post #41
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    November 2009
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    Stop arguing, the GTX 560 Ti is a better card than the 6870 any way you look at it. Now, why are you comparing the two?
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  2. Post #42

    January 2012
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    Stop arguing, the GTX 560 Ti is a better card than the 6870 any way you look at it. Now, why are you comparing the two?
    Not necessarily, and you need to remember how much cheaper the 6870 is.
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  3. Post #43

    January 2012
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    Stop arguing, the GTX 560 Ti is a better card than the 6870 any way you look at it. Now, why are you comparing the two?
    Did you even read the conversation above?

  4. Post #44
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    Did you even read the conversation above?
    I might have been tired last night, but I just reread it, and my point is the same. Sure, VRAM is a bottleneck sometimes, in some games, but it's generally not the deciding factor. It is true that it's more important in CF (look at brt5470's setup, he chose to have a lot of VRAM), but this is again in most cases not the deciding factor. The deciding factor is that the GTX 560 Ti is almost as good as the 6950, and the 6870 is not. More than 1GB VRAM is becoming the norm, but 1GB is still more than good enough for most games.
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  5. Post #45
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    I've got a 560 Ti 2GB edition, never had any issues whatsoever in BF3 due to VRAM.
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  6. Post #46

    January 2012
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    I've got a 560 Ti 2GB edition, never had any issues whatsoever in BF3 due to VRAM.
    Well yeah, you have the 2gb version.
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  7. Post #47

    January 2012
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    I might have been tired last night, but I just reread it, and my point is the same. Sure, VRAM is a bottleneck sometimes, in some games, but it's generally not the deciding factor. It is true that it's more important in CF (look at brt5470's setup, he chose to have a lot of VRAM), but this is again in most cases not the deciding factor. The deciding factor is that the GTX 560 Ti is almost as good as the 6950, and the 6870 is not. More than 1GB VRAM is becoming the norm, but 1GB is still more than good enough for most games.
    I agree with you for the most part, but I think you exaggerate the speed of a 560Ti to some degree. The 6870 and 560Ti are both pretty similar in performance, and with 2GB of VRAM available, the performance gap shrinks even further. I don't know if VRAM had anything to do with it, but I was able to squeeze out more FPS on a 2GB 6870 than a 560Ti in Crysis Warhead, and that was without SLI or CFX. I'm not going to deny that a single 560Ti is generally better than a 6870, but it costs significantly more, and if you're running a dual GPU setup, like me, 2GB VRAM is a must for a stutter free experience.

  8. Post #48
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    I agree with you for the most part, but I think you exaggerate the speed of a 560Ti to some degree. The 6870 and 560Ti are both pretty similar in performance, and with 2GB of VRAM available, the performance gap shrinks even further. I don't know if VRAM had anything to do with it, but I was able to squeeze out more FPS on a 2GB 6870 than a 560Ti in Crysis Warhead, and that was without SLI or CFX. I'm not going to deny that a single 560Ti is generally better than a 6870, but it costs significantly more, and if you're running a dual GPU setup, like me, 2GB VRAM is a must for a stutter free experience.
    Actually like he stated the 560 Ti competes with the 6950 1GB, not the 6870. You're underestimating the speed of a GTX 560 Ti and I am yet to see you present anything but anecdotal evidence to support your claims. No benchmarks, no specs, nothing at all.
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  9. Post #49

    January 2012
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    Actually like he stated the 560 Ti competes with the 6950 1GB, not the 6870. You're underestimating the speed of a GTX 560 Ti and I am yet to see you present anything but anecdotal evidence to support your claims. No benchmarks, no specs, nothing at all.
    You should specify which GTX 560 Ti you're talking about.
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  10. Post #50

    January 2012
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    Actually like he stated the 560 Ti competes with the 6950 1GB, not the 6870. You're underestimating the speed of a GTX 560 Ti and I am yet to see you present anything but anecdotal evidence to support your claims. No benchmarks, no specs, nothing at all.
    Ok, here's a list of graphics cards by 3DMark11 scores:

    http://community.futuremark.com/hard...+560+Ti/review

    As you can see, the 560Ti falls right between the 6870 and the 6950. Like I said, I'm NOT making the claim that a 560Ti is is on par with a 6870. I'm only noting that, as someone who has experience with both cards, (and the 6870s in two different VRAM configurations), I haven't found the difference between the two to be that significant. Factor in the added price of a 560Ti, and VRAM limitations, and I think that the 6870 is a better buy.

    Another thing to keep in mind, is that when I put together my rig, I was planning for a dual GPU setup. I can't really speak to much to how a single 560Ti and single 6870 (1GB or 2GB) compare with each other, but I can safely say that for good CFX performance 2GB VRAM is a must.

  11. Post #51
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    February 2009
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    That's amazing. CFX performance is sort of irrelevant when the OP is buying a mobo with one PCI-E slot.

    Edited:

    You should specify which GTX 560 Ti you're talking about.
    No I really don't have to. The GTX 560 Ti design from Nvidia comes with 1GB of VRAM. If anyone references the 2GB card they'll put a 2GB suffix on the name of the card. If it just says GTX 560 Ti it's obviously referring to the typical card configuration.
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  12. Post #52

    January 2012
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    That's amazing. CFX performance is sort of irrelevant when the OP is buying a mobo with one PCI-E slot.

    Edited:

    In that case the 560 Ti is most certainly not as good as a 6950.



    No I really don't have to. The GTX 560 Ti design from Nvidia comes with 1GB of VRAM. If anyone references the 2GB card they'll put a 2GB suffix on the name of the card. If it just says GTX 560 Ti it's obviously referring to the typical card configuration.

  13. Post #53

    January 2012
    25 Posts
    That's amazing. CFX performance is sort of irrelevant when the OP is buying a mobo with one PCI-E slot.
    Considering that pretty much our entire VRAM/Driver debate was completely off topic, it's kind of funny that you bring this up now.
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  14. Post #54
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    July 2006
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    When I've looked in my local PC World store, Jeantech were the only PSU's they sold.
    I bought a ANTEC VP450P PSU there last Wednesday so your local store must suck.