1. Post #2641
    Flubascrub
    Flubadoo's Avatar
    August 2009
    10,528 Posts
    ap doesn't benefit soraka that much anymore

    unless you have an assload of it, but even then if you wanna maximize your q's damage, you're gonna be in the middle of the enemy team and dead
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  2. Post #2642
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,850 Posts
    ap doesn't benefit soraka that much anymore

    unless you have an assload of it, but even then if you wanna maximize your q's damage, you're gonna be in the middle of the enemy team and dead
    yes she does, but as a mid or top champ.
    spammable Q with 0.4 AP ratio that reduces magic resist for 12 and stacks up to 10 is amazing.
    Also heals are significantly stronger

    Edited:

    AP Soraka even got a huge nerf last patch
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  3. Post #2643
    Belivo's Avatar
    May 2011
    3,158 Posts
    yes she does, but as a mid or top champ.
    spammable Q with 0.4 AP ratio that reduces magic resist for 12 and stacks up to 10 is amazing.
    Also heals are significantly stronger

    Edited:

    AP Soraka even got a huge nerf last patch
    I think they nerfed the Mres reducing somehow. I think it was the max stacks...
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  4. Post #2644
    ashzu's Avatar
    July 2009
    2,833 Posts


    wtf
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  5. Post #2645
    Feralicous's Avatar
    June 2009
    2,208 Posts
    some team earlier this week that I was watching play TSM did that exact same kennen build, AD for lane domination then AP for team fights

    IIRC it worked
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  6. Post #2646
    Gold Member
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    November 2011
    6,562 Posts
    Repost

    Anyone wanna play with me? I've been getting tons of horrible games lately, about a 7 loss streak.

    Would be nice if someone good could give me some tips too incase I'm doing something totally wrong. Otherwise, here I come, ELO hell.

    EUW - Pruney

    Also I can gladly play support or AD Carry
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  7. Post #2647
    Flubascrub
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    August 2009
    10,528 Posts
    if anything, AP kennen would win the lane harder

    Edited:

    unless the player is terrible and can land 0 qs
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  8. Post #2648
    Emperor of Ecchi
    Vmonkey's Avatar
    November 2008
    9,228 Posts
    Repost

    Anyone wanna play with me? I've been getting tons of horrible games lately, about a 7 loss streak.

    Would be nice if someone good could give me some tips too incase I'm doing something totally wrong. Otherwise, here I come, ELO hell.

    EUW - Pruney

    Also I can gladly play support or AD Carry
    I'm sure funion would 'play with you.'
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  9. Post #2649
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    May 2011
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    I'm sure funion would 'play with you.'
    Rainbows, rainbows everywhere!
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  10. Post #2650
    Murr purr and stuff!
    Nintendo-Guy's Avatar
    November 2007
    35,188 Posts
    Repost

    Anyone wanna play with me? I've been getting tons of horrible games lately, about a 7 loss streak.

    Would be nice if someone good could give me some tips too incase I'm doing something totally wrong. Otherwise, here I come, ELO hell.

    EUW - Pruney

    Also I can gladly play support or AD Carry
    Should just join the facepunch chatroom and ask there
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  11. Post #2651
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    November 2011
    6,562 Posts
    I'm sure funion would 'play with you.'
    Oh dear god.
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  12. Post #2652
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
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    hahahahaha
    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    says the guy building phantom dancers on hecarim and thinks it's viable
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  13. Post #2653
    Gold Member
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    November 2011
    6,562 Posts
    Should just join the facepunch chatroom and ask there
    Will do when I get home.

    Edited:

    hahahahaha
    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    says the guy building phantom dancers on hecarim and thinks it's viable
    huehuehuehuhe

    says Blueplastic.
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  14. Post #2654
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,850 Posts
    Sorry to disappoint you, but there's no elo hell.
    You belong with baddies because you're one as well
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  15. Post #2655
    Flubascrub
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    August 2009
    10,528 Posts
    very blunt

    very unlike you
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  16. Post #2656
    Gold Member
    TrannyAlert's Avatar
    November 2011
    6,562 Posts
    Sorry to disappoint you, but there's no elo hell.
    You belong with baddies because you're one as well
    Whatever man, you're a bad poster, starting drama for no reason.

    Also, I personally know I'm not bad, maybe some things wrong here and there.
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  17. Post #2657
    Emperor of Ecchi
    Vmonkey's Avatar
    November 2008
    9,228 Posts
    Oh dear god.
    name is tranny alert
    scared of funion
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  18. Post #2658
    Gold Member
    TrannyAlert's Avatar
    November 2011
    6,562 Posts
    name is tranny alert
    scared of funion
    Maybe it will be a perfect match.
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  19. Post #2659
    Flubascrub
    Flubadoo's Avatar
    August 2009
    10,528 Posts
    Whatever man, you're a bad poster, starting drama for no reason.

    Also, I personally know I'm not bad, maybe some things wrong here and there.
    or maybe you should admit that you are and try to improve instead of having the false impression that you're good?

    that's the reason half the people in "elo hell" are stuck there. you're not gonna get better by thinking you're good.
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  20. Post #2660
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    TrannyAlert's Avatar
    November 2011
    6,562 Posts
    or maybe you should admit that you are and try to improve instead of having the false impression that you're good?

    that's the reason half the people in "elo hell" are stuck there. you're not gonna get better by thinking you're good.
    My definition of good is different to yours then. I know I have stuff to improve on, but I've just had some really bad queues lately.
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  21. Post #2661
    WiP about GW2
    eternalflamez's Avatar
    November 2011
    4,733 Posts
    "Free to play champs will be made unavailable in Ranked!"

    oh shit
    But if you own the champion, can you still play him? Otherwise it'd be lame.
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  22. Post #2662
    Flubascrub
    Flubadoo's Avatar
    August 2009
    10,528 Posts
    i don't know of any one that's played this game that recently hit level 30 that i'd consider good

    hell, i've played like 500 games and still think i suck, but i try to get better     by playing WIN NHAO   
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  23. Post #2663
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,850 Posts
    But if you own the champion, can you still play him? Otherwise it'd be lame.
    You can play them if you own them, of course.
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  24. Post #2664
    Flubascrub
    Flubadoo's Avatar
    August 2009
    10,528 Posts
    when does elo decay begin?
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  25. Post #2665
    WiP about GW2
    eternalflamez's Avatar
    November 2011
    4,733 Posts
    Repost

    Anyone wanna play with me? I've been getting tons of horrible games lately, about a 7 loss streak.

    Would be nice if someone good could give me some tips too incase I'm doing something totally wrong. Otherwise, here I come, ELO hell.

    EUW - Pruney

    Also I can gladly play support or AD Carry
    I would. but then: EUW.
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  26. Post #2666
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,850 Posts
    when does elo decay begin?
    I think 3 weeks, but my friend says it's 4.
    So 3 or 4 weeks
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  27. Post #2667
    WiP about GW2
    eternalflamez's Avatar
    November 2011
    4,733 Posts
    when does elo decay begin?
    When your name is Flubadoo and you play ranked, ofcourse.
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  28. Post #2668
    Gold Member
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    November 2011
    6,562 Posts
    i don't know of any one that's played this game that recently hit level 30 that i'd consider good

    hell, i've played like 500 games and still think i suck, but i try to get better     by playing WIN NHAO   
    Well, I hit 30 like 2 weeks ago. The first say week of level 30 was great, I got about a 6 win streak and a positive score, by alot. Recently it's just started going to shit though.
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  29. Post #2669
    Flubascrub
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    August 2009
    10,528 Posts
    that's because your win streak brought your normal elo too high, and now it's normalizing
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  30. Post #2670
    Murr purr and stuff!
    Nintendo-Guy's Avatar
    November 2007
    35,188 Posts
    I think 3 weeks, but my friend says it's 4.
    So 3 or 4 weeks
    Its 4
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  31. Post #2671
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,850 Posts
    Well, I hit 30 like 2 weeks ago. The first say week of level 30 was great, I got about a 6 win streak and a positive score, by alot. Recently it's just started going to shit though.
    Just because you're lvl30, doesn't mean you play with every lvl30 player.
    There's normal elo too. So if you're doing good with your "viable" builds against 600 elo enemies, it doesn't mean it would work against anyone above 1250.
    You'll start losing. Like now

    Edited:

    ninja'd
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  32. Post #2672
    Gold Member
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    November 2011
    6,562 Posts
    that's because your win streak brought your normal elo too high, and now it's normalizing
    I see. I guess it went too high for me and then it started plummeting, like now. I don't know whether I should stop playing for a week or so or just find someone decent to partner with.
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  33. Post #2673
    ashzu's Avatar
    July 2009
    2,833 Posts
    About elo hell, In my opinion I still think it exists.

    This is my definition of elo hell:

    under 1200 elo ranked where games are very difficult to win due to trolls/baddies/dcers. There will be a noticeable chunk of games where it's just impossible to win (Usually because someone doesn't contribute to the team at all, making it pretty much a 4v5) and when you win, it's usually because someone got fed and is carrying.

    Elo hell is possible to get out of but if you're just an above average player then it will take a long time.


    Some people may argue "oh but im 1600 elo and I still get awful players". That may be true but I think in Elo hell "bad players" are a lot more common and very rarely will you get a player who knows what they're doing.

    It's a battle of which team is worse.
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  34. Post #2674
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,850 Posts
    You just have to constantly win your lane.
    If you think you're good enough to have higher elo, you'd win 1v1(or at least have decent farm and don't die).
    If you're losing your lane badly how the fuck do you think you deserve higher elo? "hurr durr junglers no ganks"
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  35. Post #2675
    Steins;Gate SUCKS
    Dave_Parker's Avatar
    October 2008
    4,945 Posts
    In general, people in 1k are better than 1.2k

    Law of large numbers dictates that with enough games played, you will eventually reach your proper ELO.

    In my opinion, if you've played >300 ranked games you're pretty much around the ELO you deserve to be.
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  36. Post #2676
    ashzu's Avatar
    July 2009
    2,833 Posts
    It took me 200 games to reach 1250 elo (From 980). I reckon my true elo during Season 1 would of been 1300-1400. I was pretty comfortable when I duo queued with my 1400 elo friend and we played in the 1300 elo bracket.
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  37. Post #2677
    OBVIOUS LOLICON
    Twistshock's Avatar
    August 2007
    1,343 Posts
    I don't like playing ranked and I haven't even completed my damned prelims.
    People are so damned stupid in those.
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  38. Post #2678
    For once, don't be so weak.
    Colour's Avatar
    August 2011
    2,166 Posts
    I don't like playing ranked and I haven't even completed my damned prelims.
    People are so damned stupid in those.
    yeah, pretty much.

    Last game I recall was when our Team Captain refused to ban Shen, flat out refused stating Kennen was a better ban. Guess what champ they picked first.
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  39. Post #2679
    Gay Member #1
    Dennab
    November 2009
    5,519 Posts
    karma isn't shit, just underplayed as fuck

    No im sure you said she is shit a lot

    Even tho i showed that statistically proven she is tied #1 with taric
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  40. Post #2680
    Murr purr and stuff!
    Nintendo-Guy's Avatar
    November 2007
    35,188 Posts
    No im sure you said she is shit a lot

    Even tho i showed that statistically proven she is tied #1 with taric
    You dont play league go away
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