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I do not get all the hate for Oblivion/Skyrim. They might not be the best RPGs ever, but they are fairly great.
The only thing is that it is pretty much a light RPG, which means that stats do not matter all that much compared to other RPGs. But it is okay, the game has a different flow. The only thing that would be great is if armor and weapons of different materials would have other effects instead of simply having more armor/damage. It is a bit flat in that aspect.
For instance elven weapons have a minor chance of critical damage, Dwemer weaponary does more damage but is slower, Glass stuff is pretty fast. Also with armor they could have done more, half of the armors become obsolete pretty fast. The only distinction is light/heavy armor which makes you run faster or slower.
For instance all the fur and leather armors look insanly badass but they are practically useless after an hour.
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When I played oblivion when it first came out I was like 9 years old and the dungeons were terrifying to meseriously man go back and play oblivion
if you thought obliv's dungeons were even a little bit creepy you might wanna avoid horror movies for an eternity or two
terrifying
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They don't really bother with QA that much, most of the beta testing is done by the developers themselves, for example final months of production is just the developers playing the hell out of the game trying to find bugs etc.
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lolWhen I played oblivion when it first came out I was like 9 years old and the dungeons were terrifying to me
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I'm still shit scared of oblivions dungeons.
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I just realized the players map cartographer is a Vampire.
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She's been around for at least 200 years.
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...that's a metaphor for the civil service right there. Motherfucking Whitehall, how do you work?
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Do Arena and Daggerfall feel like Elder Scrolls games? Everyone praises Morrowind and it really seems like it's the first true Elder Scrolls game while Arena and Daggerfall seem more like generic fantasy games.
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I'm straight, and it seems like I haven't ever raped, or in fact had sex with a woman ever.
July 2008
3,957 Posts
I liked oblivion :(
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Arena is not really that amazing. Daggerfall though is really an awesome game. It is really huge but also kind of difficult and a lot less streamlined than the newer installements. It takes some time to get used to it, navigating around the map and finding the right places might prove difficult. Like already mentioned the areas are huge and there is tons of stuff to do.
The best thing is that you can bind the controls to any key you want and adapt the controls to the control sheme of Oblivion/Skyrim. I definitly recommend it, it is free and there is an optimized version which runs on newer OS without any problems, it has also some patches included.
Download it here
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I regret selling my copy of Oblivion a few years ago, I loved it as much as I love Skyrim, I'll probably buy it again soon. There was something about it that captivated me.
That Allesia Ottus was a miserable and prejudiced old cow from what I remember, she was the one who wrote those town guides.
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I just hope we can get better Argonian female voices, not digging the old lady impersonations.
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I wish we got more diverse followers, at least one of each voice type; it is annoying that that is linked to followership and mariageability, and you can't console, say, a female khajiit or a guy with the "maleCondescending" generic voice to be anything but somebody who stands there.
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but an insane amount of people act like they're the best rpg ever
plus morrowind wasn't a light rpg and fans of that dislike oblivion/skyrim because they're very dumb and could be a lot better, especially with the improvements that have been made in technology but bethesda is terrible at game design.
there's not one aspect of oblivion or skyrim that's designed really well, they have nice-ish world design though. shame that skyrim/cyrodiil were pretty much the easy way out when it came to stuff like the style and look of it. cyrodiil is pretty much generic lotr while skyrim is generic norse stuff.
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At least there are a lot of mods on the Nexus that add more npcs to these otherwise desolate places.
Skyrim NPC Immersion
Randomly Generated Townsfolk
More NPCs
More Travelers
Adventurers and Travelers
Travelers of Skyrim
Populus
Crowded Solitude
Populated Cities
Install all of these and the desolate wasteland called Skyrim suddenly gets a baby boom. although some of them aren't particular polished (more travelers), crashes and never ending loading screens can happen with some (randomly generated townsfolk), and some annoying bugs happen in small settlements where the npcs will just crop up in one location; other than that it's completely fine
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Even LOTR had plenty of epic locations and looked overall more gruff while cyrodiil is pretty lackluster.
Edit: Might just be the terrible lightning and everyone looking like a twelve year old too, though.
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I agree with you, one of the major thihgs that are really awesome about the game is the world an atmosphere. There is tons of lore and everything looks really cool. Especially the landscapes in Skyrim, the design is also really nice. The enemies and cool armor/weapons. Cool dialogues and characters.
But a lot of things in Skyrim/Oblivion are lackluster, the RPG part is at best pretty mediocre. The stats improve if you invest some skills but when you play on normal you can pretty much just beat everything without having to think about my skills and such. I always bump up the difficulty to max so that there is some thinking in character creation.
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I enjoyed Oblivion for what it was but it seemed to me like there hadn't been much effort going into balancing the game out. Maybe I didn't give it a hard enough try, but whenever I tried to play as a mage character I found that simply stabbing with a dagger did far more damage than casting spells ever did. I probably was just terrible at it. I also never had enough money to buy anything and ended up living in one of the random dungeons I'd cleared out that had a bed roll in it. I ended up just playing as a warrior because that was what I did best and having a lot of fun with it, about 100 hours of my time went into it and I never really got bored with it until I stopped playing.
Skyrim was a huge disappointment to me, when I first started playing it I thought it was pretty cool, but the game quickly went downhill for me after the very opening scene. After smithing myself some basic iron equipment I set out on a rather boring storyline that consisted of raiding x dungeon to acquire x item then talking to someone about it, and becoming the most trusted member of a group (the companions) within about an hour of quests. The game seemed to be either too easy or too hard, I would either kill an enemy in one or two hits, or get killed in one or two hits. There was no happy medium. After only a few hours of playing this changed to winning every fight with absolute ease (one or two shotting everything). I know there's a difficulty setting, but all it does is give enemies more health and make them deal more damage to you, and even on Master every battle was still easy, just took forever. I never had that 'ohshit' feeling that I had got on many occasions with Oblivion. When you have only a few hit points left and an enemy is just around the corner. The graphics weren't that great either, I had to download several mods just to get the game to look reasonably nice.
My main complaint with Skyrim is that pretty much every method of combat other that melee is useless. If you are too far away from an enemy to hit them, Whirlwind sprint will put you in their face. If an enemy is out of reach/above you, Fusrodah will resolve it. Magic felt truly useless to me and the damage never really scaled either, so eventually the lower level magic spells became entirely useless. It seemed far more efficient to just get the most damaging one/two handed weapons and wail on your enemies.
Mini rant over, I now only play Skyrim to kill time and to test out mods.
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I just wish Skyrim didn't have that stupid leveling crap that Oblivion had for weapons, Morrowind did it perfectly where all the weapon vendors sold your basic stuff (chitin, iron, etc) but if you wanted Dwemer armour you would have to get your ass into a Dwemer ruin and actually find it. Not like in Skyrim where as soon as I hit level 25 the vendors are stocked with it.
I also wish there were the Daedric Shrines from Morrowind where you had caves and other places turned into shrines by worshippers and having all those Daedra running around them. It would make sense considering it would give the Vigilant of Stendarr seem like they are important since there are barely any Daedra is Skyrim and it's only Dremora from Mehrunes Dagons shrine
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Well at level 25, Dwemer armor becomes pretty much obsolete, ther are better alternatives.
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Can safely say I haven't ever had any of that happen to me in my game.
I think you should call the Ghostbusters and tell them to fix your haunted game.
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I've made a script to make an activator open a container when it is activated, but I get an error telling me that "Activate is not a function or does not exist". What is the issue?
Here is the code:
I wouldn't consider myself any good at papyrus, but I understand basic scripting.Code:Scriptname StorageFlySCRIPT extends ObjectReference Container Property FlyStorage Auto Event OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef) if (akActionRef == game.GetPlayer()) FlyStorage.Activate(Game.GetPlayer()) EndIf EndEvent Event OnStart() Self.SplineTranslateToRef(game.GetPlayer(), 10.0, 50.0, 100) EndEvent
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Can someone give me some good ENB's that are compatible with the most recent version of Skyrim?
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That's really odd...according to the wiki page you seem to be using it right, and the Activate function is part of ObjectReference which your script extends
Perhaps try making a function and have OnActivate call it, instead of putting the code directly in the event? Totally wild guess, I'm not much of a Papyrus pro either.
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I have a problem in Skyrim. I did the quest that involves getting into Calcelmo's laboratory (in Makarth). I didn't want to get attacked by the guards so I commanded Lydia to kill everyone, while I stayed in the shadows. Now everyone's dead and I can't tell her to follow me, because all she does is telling me "You shouldn't be in here." When I command her to open the door to a non-restricted area, she says "I can't do that, sorry!" When I fast travel to somewhere else, she stays where she is.
What can I do to get her back?
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I have plans to try tackling that after my exams are over, I guess it wouldn't be very hard. Anyway:
-Basic Smithing instead of Steel Smithing: The perk makes you able to craft Steel AND Leather items, and improves improvement of not only Steel, but Iron, Hide and Leather items. Also, Leather Shields.
-For the first Light perk, Chainmail is quite redundant with Scaled existing, but implementing a new metal would requite more extensive work... Well, unless Mythril is, say, Steel plus Quicksilver. The Armor rate would be the one vanilla Elven armor has. As for more weapons, I could see Mythril ones as Steel-damage, Iron-weight.
-Dwarven weapons get a slight nerf, to vanilla Orcish weapon values.
-Elven weapons get nerfed to vanilla Dwarven weapon values; Elven armor gets buffed to vanilla Elven gilded armor (which turns into a cosmetic variant); the non-cuirass parts get an according buff.
-Orcish weapons get buffed to vanilla Elven weapon values.
-Light Daedric Armor, of higher stats than Dragonscale, made with much less Ebony, some Malachite, and Leather. Wouldn't be very lore breaking, would it?
-If Advanced and Dragon weapons are considered, the higher than them quality weapons would suffer a slight buff (and maybe the Blade of Woe as well).
-When joining a faction, you'd get an active effect that would let you make the appropiate outfits; for example, you can make Stormcloak armor if you join them, and you are unable to make Imperial stuff unless you join them.
-More jewellery products, nothing should limit you from making a Silver Diamond ring. I'd also introduce Copper (and circlet smithing, and more circlets), but, again, I'm not sure how a new metal would work. Maybe as guaranteed byproduct of gold and silver mining, as in real life. Maybe even precious metal (plated) weapons, mostly for decoration and undead hurting, but inconvenient otherwise.
So yeah, will work a bit more on the numbers and on understanding the CK. And I can't model to save my life anyway, so I guess this is stillborn; but hey, I can at least retouch the already existing stuff (and the leveled lists, buffed Orcish stuff should come later on).
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You'll have to dismiss her and disable-enable or use a console command to move her away. Other than that, there isn't anything you can do. Welcome to Skyrim. Bugs are everywhere.
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Without mods, I don't think anyone would give Skyrim a second thought
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I'm straight, and it seems like I haven't ever raped, or in fact had sex with a woman ever.
July 2008
3,957 Posts
What astounds me is that the very same people who hold bethesda up as the pinnacle of lazy developers for their supposed "the mods will fix it" attitude, continue to buy the fucking games and just have the mods fix the issues.
I don't recall encountering a single major bug in Oblivion, and only two bugs which impacted my gameplay in a major way in Skyrim. Either you guys are nitpicking, lying or spectacularly unlucky.
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Well now, this is weird, disabling my mods one by one to see which one's the problem, now that I disabled the mesh improvement mod, the game just closes down instead of leaving me on the Logo without starting a new game.
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Same thing with Imp's more complex needs.
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And Shenk's Thievery Overhaul.
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Skyrim is a great game, I don't understand the hate at all. Hell, I usually refrain from downloading mods, except settng-friendly ones and fixes.
The only thing that would make things better would be to
-Make things more to scale, at least have a hundred or more NPC's in a town.
-Make the stories and quests more interesting at face value. In Skyrim, the lore was neat and didn't retcon much, but it was terribly simple at face value. I'd say to make things slightly more metaphysical and a lot more political. Keep the more confusing things to books and optional dialogue, because some people understandably don't really care for insane metaphysics and story.
-Make things matter more. Potions, enchantments, guilds, diseases, and other things are really trivial and have no weight to them. One example would be diseases, which used the be a pretty big deal, and you end up scrambling looking for a potion or a healer to cure them. In skyrim, you just have to tap any ol' shrine and bam no more disease. Guilds have no consequence to them, and you can join any fucking one of them. In Morrowind for example, if you joined one guild and some other factions would hate you more and more as you rise through the ranks. An other neat thing I noticed after playing Arena is how you have to get people to detect enchantments and potion effects for you, which would make sense if your were no mage/alchemist/enchanter. Stuff like that adds depth to the game.
-No more level scaling, no explanations needed.
Still though, Oblivion and Skyrim were great anyway, not getting any hate from me.
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I don't understand, 5-6 months ago everybody were saying how good skyrim was and now they are hating on it.
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I did this:
Still gives me the same message. I have to agree, this error seems rather bizarre.Code:Scriptname StorageFlySCRIPT extends ObjectReference Container Property FlyStorage Auto Function OpenStorage() FlyStorage.Activate(Game.GetPlayer()) EndFunction Event OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef) if (akActionRef == game.GetPlayer()) OpenStorage() EndIf EndEvent Event OnStart() Self.SplineTranslateToRef(game.GetPlayer(), 10.0, 50.0, 100) EndEvent
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I manage to fix it, all i had to do was to add the script to the container and remove the entire OnActivate part.
Only problem now seems to be that the container never if the same if I spawn multiple instances of it.
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I love skyrim. It seems the only thing people talk about here is the things they don't like. I don't see anyone here going on about the things they like about skyrim.
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modding is the only redeeming quality
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Hardly
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Also the huge console following is a testament to how wrong you are
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call of duty also got a huge following
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You disliking something =/= That something being bad
Basic civic behaviour, look it up.
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Great, now this thread will be arguing weather Skyrim is good or not.
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The honeymoon is over and everyone looked at their new wives and realized that she was exactly the same as their old wife only blond and not brunette.
I've played countless hours of Oblivion since it's release and if I wasn't too lazy to reinstall it I'd still be playing it, I'm still playing Morrowind. But Skyrim is just Oblivion 2, it isn't the leap between games that Daggerfall was to Arena, what Morrowind was to Daggerfall, it's just the same game with a new coat of paint.
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I do like the game skyrim, i just dont like the setting.
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