1. Post #41
    Eh?
    CanadianBill's Avatar
    May 2007
    2,327 Posts
    It's precisely what happened to MacArthur.
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  2. Post #42
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    Kinversulath's Avatar
    February 2007
    3,901 Posts
    What people say and do are two different things. Was he actually not following orders?
    That doesn't matter at all. Nor would it in any other job.

    If I went up to my supervisor and told him that I would not do what I was told to do, I would be fired.
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  3. Post #43
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    October 2006
    4,837 Posts
    Surely Obama can make a jump on this matter himself?
    "Say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens"
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  4. Post #44
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    Venezuelan's Avatar
    September 2011
    12,368 Posts
    This is basically the same as going up to my CO and telling "fuck you I'm not following anything you say" my ass would be thrown out instantly. You can disagree with your superior's views or whatever but in the end they are the boss and you will respect and listen to them.
    Minus the going up to part

  5. Post #45
    Don't Worry, I'm a Marine
    UncleJimmema's Avatar
    October 2005
    3,020 Posts
    Yeah but you won't get discharged like this dude did.
    Yes you will. He got an OTH (other than honorable) administrative separation. I see it ALL the time. This just happened to be high profile because of the president and the fact that they media made a big deal out of it.
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  6. Post #46
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    PvtCupcakes's Avatar
    May 2008
    10,900 Posts
    Owned.

    Don't like the president, don't join the military
    Problem solved?

  7. Post #47
    Don't Worry, I'm a Marine
    UncleJimmema's Avatar
    October 2005
    3,020 Posts
    Owned.

    Don't like the president, don't join the military
    Problem solved?
    Don't like the president, don't bitch about him in a public forum while attempting to align yourself with the military.
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  8. Post #48
    VengfulSoldier's Avatar
    March 2011
    1,744 Posts
    You guys do realize the military can't afford to become a political battle ground?

    There is too much money, funding and other such things floating around. They have to be apolitical and pragmatic.

    That's why you can never say anything political while in the military. This is as much a self preservation tactic as it is a thing of respect.

  9. Post #49
    I'M A SHAAARK!
    Lambeth's Avatar
    October 2009
    14,851 Posts
    It's precisely what happened to MacArthur.
    and more recently, General McChrystal

  10. Post #50
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    Aetna's Avatar
    July 2007
    2,007 Posts
    OP is incredibly dense if he can't understand this.
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  11. Post #51
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    October 2006
    4,837 Posts
    OP is incredibly dense if he can't understand this.
    faze isn't dense. For every smart post he has 100 dumb ones. That's all.

    Just like the rest of us. (Except for me, I have a 1:99 ratio)
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  12. Post #52
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    December 2007
    634 Posts
    Uhhh, he like, get's paid money to follow orders.

    I will never respect military people, they are NOT heroes, they signed their life away to be contract killers for the government.
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  13. Post #53
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    October 2006
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    Uhhh, he like, get's paid money to follow orders.

    I will never respect military people, they are NOT heroes, they signed their life away to be contract killers for the government.
    People don't usually go into the military to be a hitman. They go to have the huge benefits, job security, expert training and schooling and for the culture. The military is a great life for some people if you manage to stay away from war. Then suddenly, all these poor guys are told to go here/there and are put in prison if they don't like their orders.

    I have no respect for the military culture or life, but soldiers are still people who hate the crap war brings.
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  14. Post #54
    I'd buy that for a dollar
    Dennab
    September 2008
    5,876 Posts
    Uhhh, he like, get's paid money to follow orders.

    I will never respect military people, they are NOT heroes, they signed their life away to be contract killers for the government.

    You're a god-damned moron. Shitloads of the people I have met here joined because they actually did want to help the country, and lots of other people don't really have alternatives. Almost NOBODY joins because they want to be a fucking killer and you're an asshole for suggesting that.
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  15. Post #55
    Frostypunch's Avatar
    March 2011
    621 Posts
    Uhhh, he like, get's paid money to follow orders. I will never respect military people, they are NOT heroes, they signed their life away to be contract killers for the government.
    You really are a fucking retard
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  16. Post #56
    Dennab
    August 2011
    3,194 Posts
    a good question is why the fuck is that in the oath to begin with
    Why is it in the oath to swear allegiance to your country when you are serving your country?

    ...wat
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  17. Post #57
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    July 2006
    11,833 Posts
    Uhhh, he like, get's paid money to follow orders.

    I will never respect military people, they are NOT heroes, they signed their life away to be contract killers for the government.
    Because the Coast Guard, Marines, Navy, Army, or Air Force, have never EVER provided aid to people in any way shape or form. Nope. All they do is find and kill people!

    Read a fucking book.

    Anyway, if you're a soldier, the President is your boss. It's that simple.
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  18. Post #58
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    November 2007
    7,239 Posts
    Since this would technically count as insulting a superior officer, with Obama being Commander in Chief, this kind of makes sense since it's practically insubordination.
    Basically this.
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  19. Post #59
    Its the same for the rest of the world, faze. Every single country.

  20. Post #60
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    February 2010
    14,742 Posts
    You're a god-damned moron. Shitloads of the people I have met here joined because they actually did want to help the country, and lots of other people don't really have alternatives. Almost NOBODY joins because they want to be a fucking killer and you're an asshole for suggesting that.
    Well actually, I remember seeing some guy on 4chan who was mad that they wouldn't let him in the military when he kept telling the recruiter that he would kill anybody they told him to.

  21. Post #61
    I'M A SHAAARK!
    Lambeth's Avatar
    October 2009
    14,851 Posts
    Uhhh, he like, get's paid money to follow orders.

    I will never respect military people, they are NOT heroes, they signed their life away to be contract killers for the government.
    Except there are plenty of jobs in the military that have nothing to do with killing.

  22. Post #62
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    wraithcat's Avatar
    December 2007
    13,068 Posts
    Where in the contract does it forbid you to critique the president?
    Publicly? He's the commander of the armed forces. The guy made the mistake of making those comments public and open to all. That is essentially insubordination and would be no matter who the president is or isn't.

    It's like criticising your boss openly.

  23. Post #63
    I'd buy that for a dollar
    Dennab
    September 2008
    5,876 Posts
    Well actually, I remember seeing some guy on 4chan who was mad that they wouldn't let him in the military when he kept telling the recruiter that he would kill anybody they told him to.
    Exactly, if you genuinely like killing people then there is something seriously wrong with you.

  24. Post #64
    Dennab
    April 2010
    5,256 Posts
    Uhhh, he like, get's paid money to follow orders.

    I will never respect military people, they are NOT heroes, they signed their life away to be contract killers for the government.
    That's okay, I'll never respect you. You don't have a job, you live off your mum's tit and you're a smelly neckbeard whose greatest achievement in life is racking up a 12 hour red eye session on world of warcraft


    P.S 90% of the jobs in the military are non combat
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  25. Post #65
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    November 2010
    4,414 Posts
    Wait did he just insult obama or didn't he actually follow orders? If he didn't follow orders it kinda makes sense.
    Doesn't matter, he disrespected a superior officer.

  26. Post #66
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    PvtCupcakes's Avatar
    May 2008
    10,900 Posts
    You're a god-damned moron. Shitloads of the people I have met here joined because they actually did want to help the country, and lots of other people don't really have alternatives. Almost NOBODY joins because they want to be a fucking killer and you're an asshole for suggesting that.
    Then join the Peace Corps.

  27. Post #67
    I'd buy that for a dollar
    Dennab
    September 2008
    5,876 Posts
    Doesn't matter, he disrespected a superior officer.
    I don't think it would really be superior officer, as the president is civilian. But he is the commander-in-chief.

  28. Post #68
    HEY GUYS DID I MENTION I'M IN THE ARMY
    SKEEA's Avatar
    March 2006
    3,297 Posts
    Uhhh, he like, get's paid money to follow orders.

    I will never respect military people, they are NOT heroes, they signed their life away to be contract killers for the government.
    I joined the military to pursue a career in flight. I am currently a crew chief for Kiowa Warrior helicopters. I am only 18 and the Army has trained me to repair and service multimillion dollar aircraft for no monetary cost. I would love to see anything that could even compare outside of the military. I joined to gain technical skills and to do something with my life other than sitting at home playing video games. I joined because the military provides great care for its people. I did not join to become a simple killer.
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  29. Post #69
    I'd buy that for a dollar
    Dennab
    September 2008
    5,876 Posts
    I joined the military to pursue a career in flight. I am currently a crew chief for Kiowa Warrior helicopters. I am only 18 and the Army has trained me to repair and service multimillion dollar aircraft for no monetary cost. I would love to see anything that could even compare outside of the military. I joined to gain technical skills and to do something with my life other than sitting at home playing video games. I joined because the military provides great care for its people. I did not join to become a simple killer.
    Cool, im gonna be a sonar tech on subs.

  30. Post #70
    Frostypunch's Avatar
    March 2011
    621 Posts
    Meh I wish I could join the military or swat, but I don't think they let diabetics in, it really sucks for me