1. Post #41
    Governor Goblin's Avatar
    December 2011
    2,782 Posts
    You're not getting my point. This means absolutely anything vaguely related to defense is passable through NDAA. Why didn't they just shove the PATRIOT ACT into NDAA and call it good? If a faction wants to conduct wiretaps on US citizens why don't they just shove it into NDAA? They wouldn't even have to worry about support for the act, because NDAA is a must-pass bill.
    Because the PATRIOT act is a separate entity. If they can fucking release it fine, I doubt attaching it to NDAA will do anything.

  2. Post #42
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  3. Post #43
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    October 2009
    5,852 Posts
    FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

    WHAT THE FLYING FUCK

    I fucking hate my county. Someone fucking start a revolution. We need to kick these people out of office NOW
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  4. Post #44
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    January 2010
    763 Posts
    They do know they are pretty much aggrivating the entire world if they use the bill to it's fullest extent right?
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  5. Post #45
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    July 2006
    5,765 Posts
    I bet they aren't going to give a shit if these "cyber security crimes" are commited in the US or abroad.

  6. Post #46
    Blu_ninja's Avatar
    March 2010
    1,035 Posts
    Why just why!

  7. Post #47
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    BloodYScar's Avatar
    May 2005
    3,356 Posts
    Gotta love corruption. But y'all be livin in a free country n shit. Dont forget that. Its a democracy!
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  8. Post #48
    cqbcat's Avatar
    April 2010
    3,963 Posts
    The fourth amendment applies online too; it applies everywhere.

  9. Post #49
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    Fourm Shark's Avatar
    October 2009
    5,852 Posts
    The fourth amendment applies online too; it applies everywhere.
    I agree. The government cannot just violate the constitution.

    If this passes, someone is bound to take it to the supreme court.

  10. Post #50
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    May 2011
    3,445 Posts
    I still want to know how this means corruption. The government won't waste resources just Ito fuck you over for no reason. They'll obviously need to be suspicious of you in the first place or it would be expenive as hell
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  11. Post #51
    NEAT GUY
    TheFilmSlacker's Avatar
    January 2011
    18,859 Posts

    Seriously though, I don't see why they even need to vote on it if the president has already said that he's going to decline it's legalization. What's the point?
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  12. Post #52
    christ jesus

  13. Post #53
    supertribute's Avatar
    March 2012
    1,701 Posts
    Pest country in the wurld.
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  14. Post #54
    Actually a cool guy
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    June 2005
    3,015 Posts
    I don't know why, but when I read the OP I thought of this:


    "Right to the fourth amendment: suspended."
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  15. Post #55
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    March 2011
    1,744 Posts
    GUYS! JUST SIGN EVERY FUCKING PETITION.

    ALL THE PETITIONS.
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  16. Post #56
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    September 2011
    5,320 Posts
    It won't pass the President. The Obama administration is saying they will most likely veto it before goes anywhere, so don't be worried.
    - Snip, wrong House -
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  17. Post #57
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    January 2010
    5,139 Posts
    Let's nuke Hollywood. Who needs movies, we won't have these laws passing anymore, and no more corrupt politicians!
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  18. Post #58
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    Woo corporatocracy
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  19. Post #59

    August 2007
    318 Posts
    I don't buy that, because then the PATRIOT ACT wouldn't have needed to be passed. It could have been slipped into an NDAA bill and passed practically unanimously. In fact, this means that any politician or faction can slip in whatever shit they want into the NDAA and have it passed.

    That's not very logical.
    No, it's not logical. They recently voted down a bill that would disallow "riders" as in, one bill for one issue.

  20. Post #60
    Goodbye freedoms, hello big brother.
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  21. Post #61
    hang you're self
    G71tc4's Avatar
    March 2008
    4,738 Posts
    We didn't bother to make the effort to get up and protest it. Everybody's still patting themselves on the back for it and congratulating themselves for stopping SOPA. That's how it happens.

    We've brought this upon ourselves.
    to the majority of americans, any "awareness" is a fad. the country gets bombarded with enough of these fucking bills back to back, there isn't enough time to get everyone on board against it. SOPA had years compared to what CISPA had.
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  22. Post #62
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    April 2007
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    Even if these authoritarian surveillance based bills which pave the way for privacy invasion of regular citizens (and those in other countries!) with no warrant or need for proof-based suspicion made information available that saved a couple hundred people (long shot, I know!), I still don't think it would make it worthwhile allowing the breaching of the private lives of millions on a whim.

    It's about time for decentralisation of power methinks - check out Switzerland and their cantons - it's not perfect but it seems a damn sight better than any other "democratic" nation state.

  23. Post #63
    President of the Westboro Baptist Church Fan Club
    Dennab
    February 2012
    2,084 Posts
    Might be wrong, but didn't they say that about the NDAA as well?
    You obviously lack a basic understanding of the NDAA.

    Edited:

    Reading this thread makes my brain hurt. This is just as bad as YouTube or Fox News comments. I'm starting to question the intellectual ability of many of the members who have just posted here. Many seem to lack rudimentary logical brain processes that allow them to make coherent decision.
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  24. Post #64
    Not that bad of a seed
    asteroidrules's Avatar
    January 2011
    11,014 Posts
    You're all a bunch of paranoid idiots. It's still got to go through Obama, who has personally stated multiple times he'd veto it, the Senate, which probably doesn't even know how to pass a bill anymore, and the Supreme court, which was created specifically to block stuff like this.
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  25. Post #65
    ASK ME ABOUT MY BAKELITE FETISH
    Dennab
    April 2011
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  26. Post #66
    I bought this title for a dollar I am special
    Lolcats's Avatar
    April 2011
    451 Posts
    I'm kind of curious how many people have read the bill, let alone keep thinking that the government is going to go batshit with it and imprision everyone they find torrenting LMFAO's next album.
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  27. Post #67
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    August 2011
    1,185 Posts
    Just proves how completely messed up our country is. Our generation is represented in government by a bunch of corrupt 50-somethings who wouldn't know what a mouse is if your slapped them with one, let alone how the internet works.
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    January 2005
    6,558 Posts
    Hey America, please stop.

    -From
    The Rest of the World.
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  30. Post #70
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    Dennab
    July 2009
    4,483 Posts
    Lets send out all the anti-social maniacs on to the streets! That'll do the world good.
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  31. Post #71
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    May 2008
    817 Posts
    I feel sorry for Americans who have to put up with all these proposed internet bills.

    Vote for SATIB today! (Stop All These Internet Bills).
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  32. Post #72
    I feel sorry for Americans who have to put up with all these proposed internet bills.

    Vote for SATIB today! (Stop All These Internet Bills).
    You shouldn't feel sorry for americans, you should feel for most of first world. If one of these bills passes in US, same shit will be tried to be pushed in europe. As we saw with ACTA, they can be proposed and if it passes in US, it has quite some chance of sooner or later passing in EU or at least some eu countries.
    Even if it does not pass, these laws will affect international companies who reside in US and that is not good for consumers all over the world. A win in america strengthens media corporations, resistance only makes their penises harder.

  33. Post #73
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    Dennab
    July 2009
    4,483 Posts
    I still want to know how this means corruption. The government won't waste resources just Ito fuck you over for no reason. They'll obviously need to be suspicious of you in the first place or it would be expenive as hell
    Are you retarded? They aren't spending their money, it's the citizens money and they waste a shit ton of it on a daily basis.
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  34. Post #74
    dubstep
    SCopE5000's Avatar
    August 2005
    4,195 Posts
    Two-party political system: Check.

    Trillion dollar debt: Check.

    Allowing the population to own guns: Check.

    Passing idiotic laws that nobody wants and pisses everyone off: Fucking Stupid
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  35. Post #75
    FOSSILIZED SHIT MAGGOT INFERNO
    BLOODGA$M's Avatar
    August 2010
    2,711 Posts
    I still want to know how this means corruption. The government won't waste resources just Ito fuck you over for no reason. They'll obviously need to be suspicious of you in the first place or it would be expenive as hell
    are you kidding

    this is a country where it's common practice to send expensive heavily armed SWAT teams to people's homes because they may or may not be growing a certain type of plant and/or be in possession of it's bud trimmings
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  36. Post #76
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    February 2005
    4,040 Posts
    Does the American congress consist of a bunch of apes that votes on exactly what the lobby tells them to?
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  37. Post #77

    May 2011
    909 Posts
    at this point an up-and-coming politician could literally make a campaign promise to force a bill through that expressly forbids bills like these from ever happening and he'd win the president election instantly

    you guys should just amend the constitution with a "thou shalt not fuck with the internet in the interest of hollywood and big companies" thing
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  38. Post #78
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    July 2009
    4,605 Posts
    This won't pass the Senate, right?
    Right?
    D:
    Correct. The Senate has their own bill known only as the Senate Cybersecurity Bill. Unlike CISPA, Obama endorses this one. While the Senate's version is much more relaxed, I'd rather have neither.
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  39. Post #79
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    April 2007
    7,124 Posts
    Does the American congress consist of a bunch of apes that votes on exactly what the lobby tells them to?
    Yeah mostly. It was bought and paid for a long time ago - that's how corporatocracy works :)
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  40. Post #80
    I'M A SHAAARK!
    Lambeth's Avatar
    October 2009
    14,832 Posts
    how does something like this happen

    american system is so dumb, war needs to be wagered on these people
    Wagered? Like "I bet this guy will win" sort of wager? or did you mean waged?