1. Post #41
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
    21,724 Posts
    Finally. I don't know why you people think it's such a horrible thing when sites like this are destroying media companies and the internet. You would have no problem if there was a house being used to create and distribute counterfeit DVDs etc, and that got raided - so why is it so different when it's online instead?

    It's unreasonable to think that it should go on without intervention especially since you know it's illegal anyway.

    Put up with it and buy things instead.
    It's not so much that piracy is bad, it's just that thanks to the Internet, trying to combat it is so futile.
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  2. Post #42
    SK17a
    garychencool's Avatar
    October 2010
    8,617 Posts
    This is just stupid, blocking The Pirate Bay won't stop torrenting at the least. Clearly, the one's who put this forward has no idea how torrenting works, at all.

    Block Google while your at it since you can search up ANYTHING, such idiots.

  3. Post #43
    Apple extraordinaire~ ♥
    eddy-tt-'s Avatar
    April 2006
    5,520 Posts
    Can someone please explain to me how it does this?
    They believe that each download is a loss of a sale.
    Which is a load of bullshit and has been proven many times.

  4. Post #44
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    JustExtreme's Avatar
    April 2007
    5,340 Posts
    Can someone please explain to me how it does this?
    What they really mean by that is that they want to shock people into supporting their corporatocratic cause by claiming piracy is directly responsible for those things when it is actually more than likely due to a lack of innovation and will to evolve and provide value
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  5. Post #45
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    February 2005
    2,818 Posts
    Finally. I don't know why you people think it's such a horrible thing when sites like this are destroying media companies and the internet. You would have no problem if there was a house being used to create and distribute counterfeit DVDs etc, and that got raided - so why is it so different when it's online instead?

    It's unreasonable to think that it should go on without intervention especially since you know it's illegal anyway.

    Put up with it and buy things instead.
    Let's curtail our rights and freedoms in order to make more money for media companies. Companies that make hundreds of millions of pounds from the work of artists and then give the artists a tiny percent. They have millions of pounds sitting around which they spend on lobbying governments to introduce things like this so that they can make even more money. These companies have been crying about how piracy is destroying them since the very beginning, yet they seem to be doing just fine - better than they ever have, in fact. Nothing is destroyed by piracy except potential sales (which are not sales). Don't believe their lies.
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  6. Post #46
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    May 2007
    2,389 Posts
    How will i download my linux distros now :(
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  7. Post #47
    Funny Hats's Avatar
    December 2007
    2,769 Posts
    I don't remember the last time I used TPB for the services it offers. There are dozens of better sites and directories for that shit.
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  8. Post #48
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    June 2009
    980 Posts
    It's not so much that piracy is bad, it's just that thanks to the Internet, trying to combat it is so futile.
    If they block the domain then yes, there will be some people that have the knowledge to find workarounds, but there is a majority of people that don't know how, and stopping them from accessing priatebay is at least a step in the right direction to stopping mainstream torrenting.
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  9. Post #49
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    April 2011
    4,017 Posts
    How will i download my linux distros now :(
    We need a lot of snails and as much salt as we can carry, meet me at dawn. Some paint to.

  10. Post #50
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    May 2008
    6,136 Posts
    If they block the domain then yes, there will be some people that have the knowledge to find workarounds, but there is a majority of people that don't know how, and stopping them from accessing priatebay is at least a step in the right direction to stopping mainstream torrenting.
    hahaha

    And the vast majority of otherwise computer-illiterate people I know just google "x torrent" rather than going to the piratebay and searching there anyway.
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  11. Post #51
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    June 2010
    5,037 Posts
    Even if they took down the pirate bay for good, the .torrent files would simply be spread across forums and clones. If they keep hunting, people will just hide .torrents in picture files or something, which is easy enough to do considering their small size.

    It'll all just get more decentralized and harder to control for them.

  12. Post #52
    Stinky Jeff's Avatar
    December 2009
    343 Posts
    BT is already blocking it, or should be.
    They were forced into doing it back in 08.
    I've used it for quite a few linux distros and it always works, using BT Infinity and as far as I can remember it has never been blocked.

  13. Post #53

    April 2011
    3,829 Posts
    If anyone's ISP is blocking them just use OpenDNS. The IP is 208.67.222.222.
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  14. Post #54
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    May 2011
    125 Posts
    Saw the thread just as i opened facepunch, "UK ISPs must block..." immediately i guessed piratebay , torrent site or download site, i guess i can predict stupidity.
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  15. Post #55
    RAPISTS ARE OPPRESSED
    mobrockers2's Avatar
    April 2011
    12,406 Posts
    Even if they took down the pirate bay for good, the .torrent files would simply be spread across forums and clones. If they keep hunting, people will just hide .torrents in picture files or something, which is easy enough to do considering their small size.

    It'll all just get more decentralized and harder to control for them.
    TPB doesn't host any .torrent files anymore (unless the torrent doesn't have enough seeders), magnet links only.

  16. Post #56
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
    21,724 Posts
    If they block the domain then yes, there will be some people that have the knowledge to find workarounds, but there is a majority of people that don't know how, and stopping them from accessing priatebay is at least a step in the right direction to stopping mainstream torrenting.
    TPB is one fucking tracker.

    If they wanted to stop piracy they'd have to block all P2P file transfers, and that extends to many more services than torrenting.

    A "step in the right direction" is to quit pumping money into worthless countermeasures and making a product people will want to buy.
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  17. Post #57
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    December 2007
    2,769 Posts
    Even if they took down the pirate bay for good, the .torrent files would simply be spread across forums and clones. If they keep hunting, people will just hide .torrents in picture files or something, which is easy enough to do considering their small size.

    It'll all just get more decentralized and harder to control for them.
    I don't think TPB hosts .torrent files anymore. It became a directory for magnet links a while back so you could theoretically still use them if TPB was completely shut down.

    Edited:

    TPB is one fucking tracker.

    If they wanted to stop piracy they'd have to block all P2P file transfers, and that extends to many more services than torrenting.

    A "step in the right direction" is to quit pumping money into worthless countermeasures and making a product people will want to buy.
    Or price a product correctly. How many people who use Photoshop have really payed the full ~$500 for it?
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  18. Post #58
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    June 2006
    4,759 Posts
    right because blocking one torrent tracker is going to stop piracy

    aka just morons legislating things they have no idea about as usual
    I think they are trying to smash the "icon" of torrenting sites to scare people.
    Instead what will happen is that the piratebay will continue operating and finding new ways to reach people making the problem even harder to solve.

    Still so uninformed.
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  19. Post #59
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    March 2007
    11,427 Posts
    I'm so glad I live in the UK where the government isn't retarded.
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  20. Post #60
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
    21,724 Posts
    I'm so glad I live in the UK where the government isn't retarded.
    is this sarcasm or

    Edited:

    Or price a product correctly. How many people who use Photoshop have really payed the full ~$500 for it?
    Adobe handles piracy well.

    Enough people buy it to cut them a profit and yet they turn a blind eye to piracy in 99% of cases.
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  21. Post #61
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    November 2007
    2,409 Posts
    right because blocking one torrent tracker is going to stop piracy

    aka just morons legislating things they have no idea about as usual
    its not a tracker, its just a search engine now

  22. Post #62
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
    21,724 Posts
    its not a tracker, its just a search engine now
    I haven't used it enough to give a shit what it is now.

    Point still stands that nothing will happen if it's "blocked."

  23. Post #63
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    December 2005
    4,593 Posts
    "This is wrong - musicians, sound engineers and video editors deserve to be paid for their work just like everyone else."
    Hahah like YOU guys give a shit about the artists.

    The actual artists hardly get any money, the record labels are the ones that get it. Bands only really get any decent amount of money from merchandise and tours.

    Edited:

    Like it's been shown in this thread (together with some links that bypass the block even), this is completely pointless and a waste of time and money that could be used in better places.
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  24. Post #64
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
    21,724 Posts
    Like it's been shown in this thread (together with some links that bypass the block even), this is completely pointless and a waste of time and money that could be used in better places.
    The closest analogy I can draw is like completely barring off, say, electronic stores to prevent theft.

    Sure, you've stopped a lot of theft of electronics. But legitimate people are hurt too, and the thieves will find something else to steal.

    And piracy is still nothing like theft anyway, they absolutely need to stop treating them similarly.

  25. Post #65
    OBVIOUS LOLICON
    Dennab
    August 2007
    1,051 Posts
    It's already blocked in Denmark, but it can be bypassed simply by using openDNS.....

  26. Post #66
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    January 2009
    2,378 Posts
    One) Tor
    And Two)
    After some looking into it, (And using GDNS) I am unable to get onto http://www.newzbin2.es/
    It seems like that one is blocked at a IP level.
    Oh well.
    Tor.

  27. Post #67
    Gold Member
    smurfy's Avatar
    October 2007
    17,825 Posts
    One) Tor
    And Two)
    After some looking into it, (And using GDNS) I am unable to get onto http://www.newzbin2.es/
    It seems like that one is blocked at a IP level.
    Oh well.
    Tor.
    https://www.newzbin2.es/

  28. Post #68
    Gold Member
    ferdam's Avatar
    June 2005
    1,794 Posts
    8.8.8.8
    Don't forget the second one : 8.8.4.4

  29. Post #69
    Gold Member
    Strongbad's Avatar
    December 2008
    4,906 Posts
    How will i download my linux distros now :(
    Your avatar is fitting

  30. Post #70
    Shocky's Avatar
    January 2008
    413 Posts
    Really? They only block it using their shit DNS servers? What is the point? Anyone can change their DNS to anything else quite easily.

  31. Post #71
    I'm basically scarface, so line your bitches up so they can get a taste of my shlong.
    lordofdafood's Avatar
    March 2007
    365 Posts
    Really? They only block it using their shit DNS servers? What is the point? Anyone can change their DNS to anything else quite easily.

    Next law to pass will be anyone who changes dns will be classed as a pirate in movie companies / government
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  32. Post #72
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    April 2007
    5,340 Posts
    Authoritarian measures are not the way forward. The industry needs to give people a reason to buy their shit and a reason not to pirate other than "nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh, we'll get the state all up in yo shit, bro!"

    The fact that pirating is so widespread should send a message to the entertainment barons to try and do something innovative about it rather than give the government a blowjob.

  33. Post #73
    my portfolio
    Matt-'s Avatar
    April 2012
    1,378 Posts
    Next law to pass will be anyone who changes dns will be classed as a pirate in movie companies / government
    As dumb as this sounds, some idiot will probably try to make this happen.

  34. Post #74
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    January 2009
    2,378 Posts
    No. I tested it. Just before it exits Easynet it gets dropped.
    I guess Sky do block it at IP level.

  35. Post #75
    Gold Member
    JustExtreme's Avatar
    April 2007
    5,340 Posts
    Next law to pass will be anyone who changes dns will be classed as a pirate in movie companies / government
    They'll merge the terms "pirate" and "terrorist" so they can arrest anyone they suspect of piracy with no evidence for an indefinite period.

  36. Post #76
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    February 2005
    1,747 Posts
    Just use a VPN like UnblockUs (http://unblock-us.com/)

    Can sign up for a week trial and its only a few dollars a month. You just get an IP to a DNS server to throw in your internet settings and you are away.

    I use it to get US Netflix in the UK without the horrible speed reductions of a proxy, its pretty awesome.

    Alternatively, you can just use Google's public DNS - 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4

  37. Post #77
    Black's Avatar
    December 2009
    2,721 Posts
    What does this achieve exactly?
       A: nothing   
    Shuts the whiners at the copyright facilities up, while pirates can still pirate with proxies.