1. Post #121
    Gold Member
    Vasili's Avatar
    December 2007
    10,817 Posts
    DDoS'ing a server should be vac bannable I think, don't know how extreme that is though.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows Vista United Kingdom Show Events Dumb Dumb x 9Funny Funny x 2 (list)

  2. Post #122
    Gold Member
    Madman_Andre's Avatar
    November 2007
    7,239 Posts
    I hope you are fucking proud of all the fun you ruined with your retarded hack, seth.

    Well, I only mess with gmod on singleplayer now that my preferred servers closed up shop.
    More or less this.

    I still drop into a few servers that haven't devolved into a mutant cesspool, but other than that I stick to SP when I play GMod.

  3. Post #123
    Please waste more of your money changing this title again.
    Gmod4ever's Avatar
    August 2005
    6,771 Posts
    my dream

    i really, really liked spacebuild. garrys mod wasnt nice to it, though
    someone should make it a standalone game, it has potential
    I agree completely.

    The Source engine just wasn't built for things like Spacebuild. All the physics simulation (the "jerky welds" or "spazzy props" that are common in Spacebuild contraptions), the small map size, and how Source handles maps in general (all the hacks and work-arounds Spacebuild has to use for semi-convincingly space-to-atmosphere transitions, etc) just makes it really hard to do well in Source.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 7 (list)

  4. Post #124
    Gold Member
    hexpunK's Avatar
    August 2008
    15,426 Posts
    DDoS'ing a server should be vac bannable I think, don't know how extreme that is though.
    Valve would probably disable the accounts of anyone found distributing the software required. But the problem is finding out exactly who is doing it (not just aliases they use), proving they are the seller and then finding everyone else who already bought it or has another software capable of it for sale.

    It's much easier just to take legal action and scare them away, it stops the ones who really don't know what they are doing from continuing. But catching someone to take legal action is quite hard thanks to Internet anonymity.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  5. Post #125
    Dennab
    February 2012
    2,299 Posts
    I agree completely.

    The Source engine just wasn't built for things like Spacebuild. All the physics simulation (the "jerky welds" or "spazzy props" that are common in Spacebuild contraptions), the small map size, and how Source handles maps in general (all the hacks and work-arounds Spacebuild has to use for semi-convincingly space-to-atmosphere transitions, etc) just makes it really hard to do well in Source.
    Oh god the spazzy welds, you used to (and still get) retards building sbmp ships the size of the map which spaz out. They then cry when the server implodes.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  6. Post #126
    I do it all
    fruxodaily's Avatar
    November 2010
    13,716 Posts
    It's sad to hear people are getting ddos'd, we have the same trouble on our community when you permaban someone for disrupting players then they get all buttmad and analpained, loads up LOIC and starts flogging the shit out of our servers.

    Hopefully one day it'll end, but for now it's war.

  7. Post #127
    Gold Member
    Omali's Avatar
    September 2005
    3,066 Posts
    It's sad to hear people are getting ddos'd, we have the same trouble on our community when you permaban someone for disrupting players then they get all buttmad and analpained, loads up LOIC and starts flogging the shit out of our servers.

    Hopefully one day it'll end, but for now it's war.
    Even more pathetic are the people who PAY for DDoS tools so they can attack the servers that banned them, half the time they were banned for cheating.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 5 (list)

  8. Post #128
    Used to serious RP, would go from server to server after each one fell from massive DDOS. There is almost zero actual serious RP servers as the bigger they get they get smashed. The only big servers are the ones who dish out tons for DDOS protection and DDOSing of other servers to keep themselves safe. It is completely ridiculous to the point I gave up a few months ago.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  9. Post #129
    provides mlp plot free of charge
    Oicani Gonzales's Avatar
    February 2011
    17,702 Posts
    I agree completely.

    The Source engine just wasn't built for things like Spacebuild. All the physics simulation (the "jerky welds" or "spazzy props" that are common in Spacebuild contraptions), the small map size, and how Source handles maps in general (all the hacks and work-arounds Spacebuild has to use for semi-convincingly space-to-atmosphere transitions, etc) just makes it really hard to do well in Source.
    I really don't know why nobody tried making a spacebuild game yet. Just imagine how amazing it would be without all those Source-related issues
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Brazil Show Events Agree Agree x 6 (list)

  10. Post #130
    DesumThePanda's Avatar
    January 2010
    9,824 Posts
    So gmod is dead?
    It's not dead. It's still fairly active but in terms of what the community has been putting out (in terms of mods) is very uncreative and anything that is comes in little droplets.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  11. Post #131
    Gold Member
    Ericson666's Avatar
    May 2011
    3,445 Posts
    Strange, the TTT server I run has had only 1 DDOS in the 3 or so months it's run. Guess I must be luc-

    OH GOD NO I JIXED MYSELF

  12. Post #132
    DDoS'ing a server should be vac bannable I think, don't know how extreme that is though.
    lol because that'll stop them

  13. Post #133
    soulharvester's Avatar
    May 2011
    1,239 Posts
    loads up LOIC and starts flogging the shit out of our servers.
    If the server's can't handle some poor kid's LOIC attack then they shouldn't be up in the first place.

    LOIC is like one of the weakest fucking DoS tools.

  14. Post #134
    I do it all
    fruxodaily's Avatar
    November 2010
    13,716 Posts
    If the server's can't handle some poor kid's LOIC attack then they shouldn't be up in the first place.

    LOIC is like one of the weakest fucking DoS tools.
    you'd be surprised..
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 4Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  15. Post #135
    I once worked at a sperm bank, the food was terrible
    The Baconator's Avatar
    April 2011
    9,158 Posts
    I have tried to get into gmod twice before, I just can't. I am too lazy for the tutorials too. I'd rather just attempt to learn photoshop (too lazy for that too)

  16. Post #136
    KillaGunna24's Avatar
    September 2009
    1,490 Posts
    It's crazy how often (and easy I'm guessing) DDoSing occurs.
    I was fooling around with a couple of buds on a TTT server and we met another small group of trolls. After several rounds of everyone being killed later the admin finally banned the other group. Within seconds the server was taken down from a DDoS. At the time I was somewhat shocked at how people can do this so easily just for kicks.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  17. Post #137
    Gold Member
    slayer3032's Avatar
    November 2007
    3,466 Posts
    There you go (don't know what hes going on about the id engine but you get the jiff)
    You're all just poking a stick into a mountain of a bees nest, GSP's dropping Garry's Mod isn't surprising at all and will all be suicide soon enough. My 5 year server hosting career which included [GU]/ExiledServers.net Zombie Outbreak and ExiledServers PERP was ended with months of continued 8-12gbps attacks. The current exploits being used are merely the most worthless and have simply just been being abused in order of worthlessness.

    Good luck to many datacenters who even wish to rent to clients who wish to host Garry's Mod servers let alone sell them.

    I managed to sink the last $2,000 into server bills for a community which couldn't be used thanks to either the incompetent fucks at Valve who after acknowledging, fixing and unfixing linux servers and those even more idiotic who wrote querying protocols in UDP.

    Garry's Mod's community is simply groups together the people who are intelligent enough to find things to abuse, we're only the beginning. Good luck to everyone when this shit finally starts to spread. Maybe some multi-million dollar businesses will take notice and manage to give a fuck in 10 years.

    Edited:

    Australian hosting is also a fucking joke and I could probably take out nearly any gameserver hosting box with my home connection. I'd host my SRCDS servers off of the 4G on my phone before I would ever consider Australian datacenters.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 2 (list)

  18. Post #138
    Please waste more of your money changing this title again.
    Gmod4ever's Avatar
    August 2005
    6,771 Posts
    You're all just poking a stick into a mountain of a bees nest, GSP's dropping Garry's Mod isn't surprising at all and will all be suicide soon enough. My 5 year server hosting career which included [GU]/ExiledServers.net Zombie Outbreak and ExiledServers PERP was ended with months of continued 8-12gbps attacks. The current exploits being used are merely the most worthless and have simply just been being abused in order of worthlessness.

    Good luck to many datacenters who even wish to rent to clients who wish to host Garry's Mod servers let alone sell them.

    I managed to sink the last $2,000 into server bills for a community which couldn't be used thanks to either the incompetent fucks at Valve who after acknowledging, fixing and unfixing linux servers and those even more idiotic who wrote querying protocols in UDP.

    Garry's Mod's community is simply groups together the people who are intelligent enough to find things to abuse, we're only the beginning. Good luck to everyone when this shit finally starts to spread. Maybe some multi-million dollar businesses will take notice and manage to give a fuck in 10 years.

    Edited:

    Australian hosting is also a fucking joke and I could probably take out nearly any gameserver hosting box with my home connection. I'd host my SRCDS servers off of the 4G on my phone before I would ever consider Australian datacenters.
    Hi there Mr Optimist. I see you've been going real heavy on the happy pills today.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 4Disagree Disagree x 1 (list)

  19. Post #139
    Griml3xx's Avatar
    June 2008
    717 Posts
    I had a Gmod server last year with AusFrag.. I closed it due to constant DDOS attacks, not surprising AusFrag have had to do this.

  20. Post #140
    lady godiva's giant vaginas
    Metalcastr's Avatar
    May 2005
    1,858 Posts
    Doesn't IPv6 have protections against this sort of thing?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Funny Funny x 2 (list)

  21. Post #141
    ─ ─ ─ ─ ─▀ ▀ ▀ ▌ ─ ─ ─ ▄ ▄ █ █ ▌ █ ░ ♥ ░ HONK HONK- ITS A TRUCK ░░ ♥ ░░ ░ ░ ▐ ▄ ▄ ▄ ▌ ▐ █ █ ▌ █ ░ ♥ ░ FULL OF DICKS ░░░ ░ ♥
    Jarrod's Avatar
    December 2010
    1,082 Posts
    Doesn't IPv6 have protections against this sort of thing?
    I believed it just allowed a fuckton more IPs.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply United States Show Events Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  22. Post #142
    Clops with bisousbisous daily <3
    Mr. Smartass's Avatar
    December 2010
    9,188 Posts
    Some people should make some excellent DDOS/aimbot tools that far outstrip current paid ones, and then have a system auto-vac ban everyone who ever used them.

    Edited:

    Well, I am hosting a pure vanilla Gmod server with content from half life source, CSS, and TF2 as extensions.
    Only if I could figure out how to increase the playerlimit, the UI has change since last time I played.

    Feel free to hop in, my server is ontop of the serverlist, 1/8 players as of current. Name is Garry's Mod.

    IP is: 85.23.47.80:27015


    Let's have a one last good dance for old time's sake
    Can't connect

  23. Post #143
    Gold Member
    Kill coDer's Avatar
    April 2006
    956 Posts
    You're all just poking a stick into a mountain of a bees nest, GSP's dropping Garry's Mod isn't surprising at all and will all be suicide soon enough. My 5 year server hosting career which included [GU]/ExiledServers.net Zombie Outbreak and ExiledServers PERP was ended with months of continued 8-12gbps attacks. The current exploits being used are merely the most worthless and have simply just been being abused in order of worthlessness.

    Good luck to many datacenters who even wish to rent to clients who wish to host Garry's Mod servers let alone sell them.

    I managed to sink the last $2,000 into server bills for a community which couldn't be used thanks to either the incompetent fucks at Valve who after acknowledging, fixing and unfixing linux servers and those even more idiotic who wrote querying protocols in UDP.

    Garry's Mod's community is simply groups together the people who are intelligent enough to find things to abuse, we're only the beginning. Good luck to everyone when this shit finally starts to spread. Maybe some multi-million dollar businesses will take notice and manage to give a fuck in 10 years.

    Edited:

    Australian hosting is also a fucking joke and I could probably take out nearly any gameserver hosting box with my home connection. I'd host my SRCDS servers off of the 4G on my phone before I would ever consider Australian datacenters.
    You have no idea what you're talking about. The problem is that the majority of Australian GSPs have advertised 'ddos protection' when they've actually only installed DAF. It gives you the wrong idea when a good host comes along that spends the money.

    Yes a VPS connection (without egress filtering) can easily spam a2s_info packets at a server and kill it, but a single home ADSL connection won't be able to, purely due to the fact that your ISP will do egress filtering on it.

    You won't be able to spoof the source IP with an ADSL connection, let alone most VPSs, therefore srcds will just cut you off after 3 queries per second. a2s_info spam overloads the server only when there are too many packets coming from too many source IPs. It is different to the reflected bandwidth attack that devnull, and most other botnets utilise. And don't even try to tell us that your home connection could reflect an attack that could take down a box. There is basically zero chance that your ISP, hell your router, doesn't perform egress filtering on your packets. Even if you are part of that tiny minority which can get away with spoofing packets, your ADSL connection will not be able to upload enough data to have much of an effect, even after a 100x reflection (which is a best case scenario).
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Australia Show Events Funny Funny x 2Zing Zing x 2 (list)

  24. Post #144
    I fucking love eggs!!!
    Averice's Avatar
    July 2007
    1,991 Posts
    The community is what finally pushed me out of the door of developing for Garry's Mod.

    Every time I would make a comprehensive, unique, complex, or original game, one of two things would happen:

    1.) No one would play it.
    2.) People would play it and constantly bitch about how its too hard / complicated / not enough guns (yes, I tried games that didn't have guns as a focus) / not DarkRP

    My games weren't that hard or complex. It's just everyone wanted either a DarkRP or a CS:S. Anything else was ignored.
    I've always loved your gamemodes was always something new to the community, but being an ex gmod modder myself I probably appreciated uniqueness more than the standard Gmod community which is only attentive to "DarkRP" updates and the next big sex pose.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Australia Show Events Friendly Friendly x 3Winner Winner x 1Zing Zing x 1 (list)

  25. Post #145
    Gold Member
    slayer3032's Avatar
    November 2007
    3,466 Posts
    Last time I checked AOWC hosted 80% of their servers on 10mbps connections and a couple AUS GSPs did the same as many games don't require 1gbps lines so that your average DoS attack can be filtered out.

    My home connection can do 2mb/s upload which is 8mbps if you can do math, it was a poke at that getting more than a 100mbps connection at an AUS datacenter is near impossible for the price. You're taking that part much too seriously.

  26. Post #146
    Gold Member
    Kill coDer's Avatar
    April 2006
    956 Posts
    Last time I checked AOWC hosted 80% of their servers on 10mbps connections and a couple AUS GSPs did the same as many games don't require 1gbps lines so that your average DoS attack can be filtered out.

    My home connection can do 2mb/s upload which is 8mbps if you can do math, it was a poke at that getting more than a 100mbps connection at an AUS datacenter is near impossible for the price. You're taking that part much too seriously.
    We've got eight boxes on a 100mbps connection, it's not about your pipe, no one except massive massive companies can afford a pipe that can just absorb those large attacks, it's about purchasing protected, filtered bandwidth - which we have done, and it works.

    It's not something you should take lightly, there is a vast amount of misinformation out there which leads customers to the wrong conclusions.

  27. Post #147
    Gold Member
    slayer3032's Avatar
    November 2007
    3,466 Posts
    We've got eight boxes on a 100mbps connection, it's not about your pipe, no one except massive massive companies can afford a pipe that can just absorb those large attacks, it's about purchasing protected, filtered bandwidth - which we have done, and it works.
    Okay, well let me know when your datacenter's ISP doesn't null route you for receiving 12gbps for a week solid.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Zing Zing x 7 (list)

  28. Post #148
    Fabulous!
    Jack Trades's Avatar
    April 2010
    6,483 Posts
    That's not surprising considering that GMod community is just a step above Runescape and below Minecraft communities.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Funny Funny x 2Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  29. Post #149
    Cactusman's Avatar
    January 2011
    630 Posts
    -snip- late
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Late Late x 1 (list)

  30. Post #150
    Gold Member
    Kill coDer's Avatar
    April 2006
    956 Posts
    Okay, well let me know when your datacenter's ISP doesn't null route you for receiving 12gbps for a week solid.
    We've never been null routed on our current network, because we pay the premium price for a premium service.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Australia Show Events Funny Funny x 1 (list)

  31. Post #151
    Dennab
    February 2012
    2,299 Posts
    I really don't know why nobody tried making a spacebuild game yet. Just imagine how amazing it would be without all those Source-related issues
    It would be interesting if you built your ship modularly, like the timesplitters map editor, except with 1x1 parts only.

  32. Post #152
    blackfire88's Avatar
    April 2011
    288 Posts
    I think how garry has implemented a hackers.cfg, he should add a ddosers.cfg as well. That would be quite useful in solving this horrific problem.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Australia Show Events Funny Funny x 2 (list)

  33. Post #153
    Ah yes "opinions"
    Jackald's Avatar
    October 2005
    16,955 Posts
    I'm going to be controversial and say Wire was the death of GMod.

    It heralded the start of people spending hours and hours coding a particular little thing and outright killed the spontaneous and emergent creative interaction with just messing with the physics of the source engine, and replaced it with a coding metagame that ostracized those who didn't understand it and turned entire servers from "LET'S SPEND HALF AN HOUR AND BUILD A PIRATE SHIP!" to "Let's spend 4 hours to code a specific device that will work in a very specific way and then watch it happen.

    I mean remember when Spacebuild was just "slap some life support parts on and fly": now you have to spend hours wiring everything up in the most complex ways to even get a ship in the sky.

    TTT is the only reason I even play gmod anymore, and even then i'll only play with a close community of friend because the community as a whole is shocking.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 15Dumb Dumb x 2 (list)

  34. Post #154
    Gold Member
    Siduron's Avatar
    February 2006
    981 Posts
    I remember playing the very first Spacebuild and how a server would stay up for at least half a day before SB crashed it. Good times.
    After that me and my friends had a blast with SB and Wiremod before it gradually became an unstable pile of shit. The goal changed from flying to planets to trying not to crash the server.

  35. Post #155
    Resplendent Reenactor
    Zillamaster55's Avatar
    June 2010
    18,335 Posts
    I'm going to be controversial and say Wire was the death of GMod.

    It heralded the start of people spending hours and hours coding a particular little thing and outright killed the spontaneous and emergent creative interaction with just messing with the physics of the source engine, and replaced it with a coding metagame that ostracized those who didn't understand it and turned entire servers from "LET'S SPEND HALF AN HOUR AND BUILD A PIRATE SHIP!" to "Let's spend 4 hours to code a specific device that will work in a very specific way and then watch it happen.

    I mean remember when Spacebuild was just "slap some life support parts on and fly": now you have to spend hours wiring everything up in the most complex ways to even get a ship in the sky.

    TTT is the only reason I even play gmod anymore, and even then i'll only play with a close community of friend because the community as a whole is shocking.
    Absolutely perfect. TTT and the occasional Zombie Survival are all that's worth it anymore.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows Vista United States Show Events Agree Agree x 7 (list)

  36. Post #156
    little.sparrow's Avatar
    June 2010
    4,880 Posts
    I miss old gmod.
    Almost every server is shit or clogged with mods, and good servers are DDoS'ed to shit.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 4 (list)

  37. Post #157
    Gold Member
    Mabus's Avatar
    July 2007
    5,021 Posts
    Zs is still updated regularly and is really fun.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Ireland Show Events Agree Agree x 1Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)

  38. Post #158
    Gold Member
    Thunderbolt's Avatar
    September 2006
    2,811 Posts
    I'm going to be controversial and say Wire was the death of GMod.

    It heralded the start of people spending hours and hours coding a particular little thing and outright killed the spontaneous and emergent creative interaction with just messing with the physics of the source engine, and replaced it with a coding metagame that ostracized those who didn't understand it and turned entire servers from "LET'S SPEND HALF AN HOUR AND BUILD A PIRATE SHIP!" to "Let's spend 4 hours to code a specific device that will work in a very specific way and then watch it happen.

    I mean remember when Spacebuild was just "slap some life support parts on and fly": now you have to spend hours wiring everything up in the most complex ways to even get a ship in the sky.

    TTT is the only reason I even play gmod anymore, and even then i'll only play with a close community of friend because the community as a whole is shocking.
    Wire can also be used for much simpler things, not just coding E2, placing it on a crate and calling it a hovercar.
    Personally I use it to wire a pod controller to all the vehicles I build, so that everyone can drive or use them, not just me with my numpad.

    And you can have many vehicles at the same time with their own pod controllers, you're not limited to just the wheels and thrusters bound to your keypad.

  39. Post #159
    Fabulous!
    Jack Trades's Avatar
    April 2010
    6,483 Posts
    I miss old gmod.
    Almost every server is shit or clogged with mods, and good servers are DDoS'ed to shit.
    and I miss GMod 9 when it was new and original and every server wasn't filled with shit mods and 13 y/o doing sex poses.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 5 (list)

  40. Post #160
    Gold Member
    FlakAttack's Avatar
    November 2006
    5,719 Posts
    I'm going to be controversial and say Wire was the death of GMod.

    It heralded the start of people spending hours and hours coding a particular little thing and outright killed the spontaneous and emergent creative interaction with just messing with the physics of the source engine, and replaced it with a coding metagame that ostracized those who didn't understand it and turned entire servers from "LET'S SPEND HALF AN HOUR AND BUILD A PIRATE SHIP!" to "Let's spend 4 hours to code a specific device that will work in a very specific way and then watch it happen.

    I mean remember when Spacebuild was just "slap some life support parts on and fly": now you have to spend hours wiring everything up in the most complex ways to even get a ship in the sky.

    TTT is the only reason I even play gmod anymore, and even then i'll only play with a close community of friend because the community as a whole is shocking.
    All wire did was open up whole new possibilities to me. Fucking around with boxes and welds can only be fun for so long... wire initially was a way for me to share my creations, but as I took more time to learn it, I saw it for it's mindblowing potential. I don't want to build wire computers, I help my friend Unit-05 build tanks, and man are they badass when we're done.

    As for Spacebuild, I sort of agree, but you are exaggerating how bad it is. Still, I miss things like the old connectors, those were cool.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Canada Show Events Agree Agree x 3 (list)