1. Post #81
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    Viva's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,244 Posts
    What a whiner.
    Why does he just make another youtube account with a different name and continue making videos. If he wants his viewers to move over he could easily make a video on machinima and mention that he "discovered" this new channel and to check it out. Easy loophole, eventually he could even manage to get money off youtube ads when they offer.
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  2. Post #82
    Dennab
    February 2012
    1,191 Posts
    Obviously a View-Whore. Ignore him.

  3. Post #83
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    SEKCobra's Avatar
    January 2009
    15,172 Posts
    He is in England, they're in California.

    International cases aren't within Machinima's scope.

    He's either faking it or pretty dumb.

    I steal content from people all the time. They email me and depending on their level of politeness I remove/take it down. But if they start fucking with me, I just keep using it. I'm in Denmark, they're in America. International Copyright cases are out of most people's(and even organization's) scopes.
    Actually it would be pretty easy to fuck your ass up for stealing content.
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  4. Post #84
    Evo455's Avatar
    April 2012
    13 Posts
    It's his own fault for signing a contract like that.
    He could also just be trying to view whore, spreading negative information about huge channels is a very effective way to do so.

  5. Post #85
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    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    What a whiner. Why does he just make another youtube account with a different name and continue making videos. If he wants his viewers to move over he could easily make a video on machinima and mention that he "discovered" this new channel and to check it out. Easy loophole, eventually he could even manage to get money off youtube ads when they offer.
    Because Machinima owns him, not his channel. Machinima could sue for damages if he breaks his contract. The best way to get around it is be such a pain in the ass that Machinima wants to void the contract.

  6. Post #86
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    Jmir 54's Avatar
    October 2008
    4,534 Posts
    Sooo he's supposed to upload videos even when he is an old geezer?

    Someone explain this to me.
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  7. Post #87
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    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    Sooo he's supposed to upload videos even when he is an old geezer?

    Someone explain this to me.
    No, any videos he uploads to Youtube have to be done through Machinima. The contract doesn't compel him to make videos, only to properly upload them if he does make them.
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  8. Post #88
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    May 2012
    223 Posts
    How the hell do you make $50 a day when your average video view is only around 3k or so

    Because last I checked the only people who actually made any money over a couple a bucks here and there a day were partners who generally roll in 10k-20k+ views for every video they post
    I made $120 from a Skyrim video that got 60,xxx views.
    I had a hunch that it was going to be removed for copyright infringement since it had the Sovngarde song in it. I canceled my AdSense account, they sent me a check. A week later I had a strike on my account from Zenimax.
    Glad I canceled the AdSense so I still got payed.

  9. Post #89
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    July 2008
    4,976 Posts
    I made $120 from a Skyrim video that got 60,xxx views.
    I had a hunch that it was going to be removed for copyright infringement since it had the Sovngarde song in it. I canceled my AdSense account, they sent me a check. A week later I had a strike on my account from Zenimax.
    Glad I canceled the AdSense so I still got payed.
    I'm confused to hell as to how this works.

    I see partners all the time with gameplay footage/music that don't get strikes. Is it okay with partners but not adsense accounts? It just seems confusing.

  10. Post #90
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    Dennab
    November 2008
    18,691 Posts
    I steal content from people all the time. They email me and depending on their level of politeness I remove/take it down. But if they start fucking with me, I just keep using it. I'm in Denmark, they're in America.
    mecha the slag is that you
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  11. Post #91
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    November 2009
    14,485 Posts
    No, people need to stop saying that illicit and plain illegal business tactics are "OK, because you could have just checked beforehand XDDDD"
    Where did I say it was OK for them to do this? I said it wasn't their fault for him not reading the contract correctly.
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  12. Post #92
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    SEKCobra's Avatar
    January 2009
    15,172 Posts
    Where did I say it was OK for them to do this? I said it wasn't their fault for him not reading the contract correctly.
    You are saying it's his fault, therefore implying that he deserves that he gets what it says in there, otherwise it wouldn't be his fault because he wouldn't have caused anything.

  13. Post #93
    Officer brown's Avatar
    May 2012
    223 Posts
    I'm confused to hell as to how this works.

    I see partners all the time with gameplay footage/music that don't get strikes. Is it okay with partners but not adsense accounts? It just seems confusing.
    No idea, I actually got the strike after I removed it for being paranoid of strikes.

  14. Post #94
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    July 2008
    4,976 Posts
    It's his fault for not reading the contract carefully. You can't sign up for a contract as long as it suits you, and then bail when it doesn't. When he signed up for the contract he signed up for all that it entailed.

  15. Post #95
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    SEKCobra's Avatar
    January 2009
    15,172 Posts
    It's his fault for not reading the contract carefully. You can't sign up for a contract as long as it suits you, and then bail when it doesn't. When he signed up for the contract he signed up for all that it entailed.
    Actually yes, yes you can, a contract can't be without an end, even if it's open ended it has to have a exit clause, that's like saying Company A promises Company B 50 Units Ressource C but because they signed a contract that said forever they can never stop doing that, even if it becomes to costly or impossible for them. There are many regulations and laws that are always valid, even if a contract trys to void or change them, for exactly that kind of situation.
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  16. Post #96
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    October 2005
    7,237 Posts
    I don't sympathize with him.
    Never sign a contract you haven't read or understood.
    I always tell my friends to read what they sign and this is exactly why.
    He's a fool.

    He looks young, though. If he signed the contract before turning 18 he could void it.
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  17. Post #97
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    August 2011
    628 Posts
    Ultimately, this crap gives them more power to be douchebags:

    http://allthingsd.com/20120507/googl...nto-machinima/

  18. Post #98

    November 2011
    151 Posts
    Christ people jumped on this bandwagon within minutes.. machinima lost like a million subs and 'athene' jumped on it with a black and white video about how he is going to leave aswell.

    Life binding contracts aren't enforceable even a child knows this.. No one can lock you to something for LIFE. Read stuff before you sign it or simply take the contract to a local court and say oh look at this. Then they will go oh yeah it's crap and they can't force you to it next.

    The same people who jump on this bandwagon are the same people who reposted KONY 2012 videos on their facebook thinking they were helping.

    Think for yourself for once

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    I'm confused to hell as to how this works.

    I see partners all the time with gameplay footage/music that don't get strikes. Is it okay with partners but not adsense accounts? It just seems confusing.
    It's different for normal people and people partnered up with machinima..

    For instance any content i uploaded when i was doing videos had to either have me doing a voice over / tutorial to be eligible for add sense.

    And if the video was over a certain length and i wasn't talking pretty much the whole time e.g a play though then it didn't count and couldn't be monetised.

    It's easy to get started i have 153k views on my channel and maybe 8 videos monetised and i've got about 90 on the add sense account from it

  19. Post #99
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    May 2010
    9,581 Posts
    The infamous "Dumb Phil" talks about this in 12:20
    thank goodness his idiocy in games doesn't translate to everything else haha
    He talks about machinima contracts
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  20. Post #100
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    November 2009
    14,485 Posts
    You are saying it's his fault, therefore implying that he deserves that he gets what it says in there, otherwise it wouldn't be his fault because he wouldn't have caused anything.
    Well you got the wrong impression from what I said. Of course it sucks, I don't think he deserves this problem, but I have zero sympathy for him because of him not reading the damn contract.

    If anything, you're defending a guy who didn't use his common sense.

  21. Post #101
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    parket's Avatar
    May 2011
    1,168 Posts
    this is braindeadly one of the best hunters that plays wow and as you've probably guessed he's as braindead as a fart but very entertaining

  22. Post #102
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    June 2010
    4,553 Posts
    I'm confused to hell as to how this works.

    I see partners all the time with gameplay footage/music that don't get strikes. Is it okay with partners but not adsense accounts? It just seems confusing.
    No idea. Also I'm not a partner nor do I have adsense but i've gotten "strikes?" before...? maybe? Like, it says the music i'm using is owned by someone else, and it adds their info/copyright in the bottom right corner of my video, but i've only ever gotten one or two videos outright removed, and my account is still in good standing. i even got a copyright notice on a classical piece that's in the public domain (downloaded it off WIKIPEDIA for christ sake). should i take it down, despite the fact that the info on who owns the music is featured below the video?

    i dont understand how ANY of this shit works.

  23. Post #103
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    Dennab
    October 2007
    9,274 Posts
    I don't get this. Just yesterday SeaNanners posted a video where he mentioned he was no longer with Machinima.

  24. Post #104
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    SEKCobra's Avatar
    January 2009
    15,172 Posts
    Well you got the wrong impression from what I said. Of course it sucks, I don't think he deserves this problem, but I have zero sympathy for him because of him not reading the damn contract.

    If anything, you're defending a guy who didn't use his common sense.
    People are dumb, and they need the ones between us that aren't fucking morons to protect them, it's that simple.

  25. Post #105
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    Viva's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,244 Posts
    Because Machinima owns him, not his channel. Machinima could sue for damages if he breaks his contract. The best way to get around it is be such a pain in the ass that Machinima wants to void the contract.
    So, he's a slave? No. They don't OWN him. They own his content. If he posts his content anonymously and makes it under a different name, they can't do shit because they have no way of knowing it's him.

  26. Post #106
    Dennab
    February 2012
    1,191 Posts
    Because getting paid for playing video games is such a bad life.