The reason we have eyesight and limbs is not because they help us see or because they help us walk/grab things, but because being able to see and being able to walk/grab things is an advantage over other species and has helped us survive, and the species that did not have these things died off. They do not have a purpose because they were not created, they just are there. They have a function, not a purpose. Purpose implies they were created for a reason, function implies that they are used for something.
yeah this is getting sort of semantic but parts of biological organisms don't have purposes because that implies a design and evolution cannot "design" anything because, as said, evolution is a result of natural forces, not a force of it's own.
you might not be aware of this but the notion of developing in order for a species to progress was abandoned many years ago.
only the genes that do not impede survival get carried on, and things like genetic drift and mutation work in addition to adaptation.
(i wrote adaptation instead of addition oh dear)
Guess I was wrong then, sorry for derailing the thread.
Honestly, as long as he has a penis I consider Gabel a him.
Now that's all out of the way, I wish him the very best of luck.
You all realise that this whole argument stemmed from Sanius claiming that this comment was completely wrong:
This still disproves Sanius' opinion which I thought was so obviously dumb anyway
you might think it was "obviously dumb" but it wasn't, we are not designed to do any of that stuff and we are different from other animals.
People need to understand that there's a difference between gender and sex.
Being straight and male is really just being attracted to the secondary sex characteristics of a female. Or vice versa. It doesn't matter what they "used to be" or have in their pants.
Transgirl GENDER is always female, no matter what you say.
Their legal SEX remains male until sex reassignment surgery. But they are and will always be a female. You do not consider her a he. That's ignorant.
I read all nine pages - wow.
I take back what I said, it was extremely ignorant and bigoted of me to say that. I'm sorry for being such an arrogant asshat.
Although 'designed' was not the word I should have used, anyone who has done even high school science knows what I'm getting at. He didn't even back up his argument, instead just went back through the thread rating all my posts dumb.
i've done college level biology and what you're getting at was wrong and ignorant.
Oh and this
It seems that all logic in this thread has gone out the window in favour of political correctness in order to not offend anyone.
Basically you're going to have to argue that males don't seek to reproduce and pass on their genes, and that 150+ years of research was wrong
Honestly I'd like to see you try
why don't you back up your claims, you're the one who's been claiming an awful lot.
natural selection has absolutely zero to do with the tosh you've been saying through out this thread, and using evolution to smear homosexuality is insane.
Oh and don't bother pointing out the fact it's referring to species, because the point is still there
Also, smearing homosexuality? Let's see a link to a post. There is a huge difference in me having to prove natural selection to a self proclaimed "college biology student", and smearing homosexuals.
what point? do you even understand what you are quoting?
Reproduction is necessary for creating genetic variation and increasing the rate of evolution.
You can argue all you want that other animals reproduce asexually, but the fact is we don't.
Oh wow someone who actually understands basic biology holy shit
evolution is driven by environment and circumstance not reproduction, hence why humans have not genetically evolved into any classifiable new species.
A large interbreeding population in an unchanging environment (IE humans) faces little need for the acquisition of new adaptations yet we continue to reproduce, therefor your argument based on reproductive evolution is not applicable.
Thanks for proving my point, guess I won't need to buy you a big red title after all