1. Post #1
    TheJoker's Avatar
    July 2008
    3,763 Posts
    The US government yesterday rolled out not one but two copyright notices, one to "warn" and one to "educate." Six major movie studios will begin using the new notices this week.

    The main change is that Immigrations & Customs Enforcement (ICE) has, in the last several years, made itself a key player in the copyright wars. The FBI has shown extremely limited interest in going after individual websites, but ICE has done so with gusto; it has so far seized more than 750 domain names after rightsholder complaints. This new prominence is reflected in the broader logos used.

    ICE now appears on both notices. The first notice shows the traditional FBI seal and a warning that "the unauthorized reproduction or distribution of this copyrighted work is illegal. Criminal copyright infringement is investigated by federal law enforcement agencies and is punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a fine of $250,000." The logo for ICE's Homeland Security Investigations unit now appears beside the FBI's.

    The second notice shows the logo for the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center, which involves 20 different US government agencies. It features one extremely angry eagle who would probably pluck your eyeballs from your sockets if he could get those talons near you. "Piracy is not a victimless crime," says the notice. "For more information on how digital theft harms the economy, please visit www.iprcenter.gov."

    Will the two screens be shown back to back? Will each screen last for 10 seconds each? Will each screen be unskippable? Yes, yes, and yes.

    An ICE spokesman tells me that the two screens will "come up after the previews, once you hit the main movie/play button on the DVD. At which point the movie rating comes up, followed by the IPR Center screen shot for 10 secs and then the FBI/HSI anti-piracy warning for 10 secs as well. Neither can be skipped/fast forwarded through."

    The idea isn't to deter current pirates, apparently (the new scheme requires all legal purchasers to sit through 20 seconds of warnings each time they pop in a film, but will be totally absent from pirated downloads and bootlegs). It's to educate everyone else. As ICE Director John Morton announced in a statement yesterday, "Law enforcement must continue to expand how it combats criminal activity; public awareness and education are a critical part of that effort."
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...ment-warnings/
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  2. Post #2
    makes sense

    It's to educate everyone else.
    gimme dat kneejerk
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  3. Post #3
    The Mad Scientist
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    September 2008
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    Punish the customers who pay!

    This is so stupid, and won't help with anything, it'll only make the customers more angry.
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  4. Post #4
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    Dennab
    September 2007
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    makes sense
    how
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  5. Post #5
    If life gives you melons, you may be dyslexic.
    Liem's Avatar
    November 2011
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    One more reason to pirate it.
    After buying it of course
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  6. Post #6
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    September 2009
    8,741 Posts
    -Can't fucking read

  7. Post #7
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    Sector 7's Avatar
    May 2005
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    This is like having a car alarm that shouts "DO NOT STEAL CARS" and goes off every time you turn the key.
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  8. Post #8
    Ms. Andry
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    August 2005
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    sarcasm
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  9. Post #9
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    Dennab
    August 2005
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    I'll buy it even more just because of this!
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  10. Post #10
    Badballer's Avatar
    April 2010
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    I'll just illegally download it to skip these warnings.

    Edited:

    But really I hate having to sit through these warnings, just let us play the damn movie!
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  11. Post #11
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    September 2009
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    You really couldn't post the news straight from the horse's mouth?
    ICE press release

    Edited:

    Fuck's sake, I'm against piracy and think that this is one of the most horseshit antipiracy move they could have played
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  12. Post #12
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    February 2010
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    That would just make me want to pirate it out of spite
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  13. Post #13
    I am no one's bitch now! AHAHA!
    robotman5's Avatar
    October 2008
    4,187 Posts
    Now that's stupid.

  14. Post #14
    If the mods approve of this title they hereby admit that they are all massive faggots
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  15. Post #15
    NEAT GUY
    TheFilmSlacker's Avatar
    January 2011
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    What the fuck is the point even? If you bought the DVD, you shouldn't need to see the warning at all. It should just be common sense that doing it is illegal.

    One warning is more than enough, especially if it's unskippable. We don't need two.
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  16. Post #16
    Resplendent Reenactor
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    June 2010
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    More time to pop the corn
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  17. Post #17
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    April 2009
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    Wow, 20 seconds of sitting and staring at an unskippable government PSA about Hollywood's bullshit piracy "losses"? Wonderful. I'll totally enjoy staring at it before I can watch the content I legally paid for, instead of downloading illegally and not having to waste my time.
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  18. Post #18
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    October 2006
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    Thankfully, most UK releases have this instead now:

    http://www.copyrightaware.co.uk/abou...-you-ident.asp

    Take heed, America.
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  19. Post #19
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    June 2005
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    You don't beat pirates by scaring people, you beat them by offering a better service than they do.

    Forcing people who PAID for your product to watch unskippable ads which tell them NOT TO PIRATE something they already paid for is not going to encourage sales.
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  20. Post #20
    Waluigi Time!
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    July 2011
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    This is how I seem to picture it:



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  21. Post #21
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    April 2007
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    i like backing up my blurays so i skip all this shit anyways
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  22. Post #22
    What fun is there in making sense?
    Dennab
    October 2007
    9,274 Posts
    This is how government works.

    It takes effort and sincerity to uphold the laws on the books. Lets just make more of the same laws that we'll continue to do nothing to enforce.

  23. Post #23
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    March 2010
    8,066 Posts
    Also obligatory:


    Seriously, this gets more ridiculous with each passing year. I don't buy Blu-Rays to watch advertisements (especially advertising the slick new medium of Blu-Ray on a fucking Blu-Ray disc) and I sure as hell don't buy movies to be constantly reminded to NOT turn to criminal behavior. I bought the movie, now let me watch the goddamn thing.
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  24. Post #24
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    Dennab
    February 2012
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    I've never seen a DVD or BluRay with unskippable previews and two nonconsecutive government warnings.

  25. Post #25
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    March 2010
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    I've never seen a DVD or BluRay with unskippable previews and two nonconsecutive government warnings.
    Unskippable previews have become more of a rarity now, but I still find the occasional disc with them. Nowadays, however, I direct my frustration to the RIDICULOUS loading times for Blu-Ray movies because they spend so much time attempting to connect to the internet to download current information or a new trailer. On our standalone Blu-Ray player, it takes 2-4 minutes to get to the main menu of Avatar, 90% of which is spent staring at a "LOADING..." screen. My PS3 is thankfully much faster, but it's still ridiculous.
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    July 2009
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    I've never seen a DVD or BluRay with unskippable previews and two nonconsecutive government warnings.
    What country do you live in, and how can I get there?

  27. Post #27
    What bullshit.

  28. Post #28
    Pikachu231's Avatar
    December 2009
    1,866 Posts
    Thankfully, most UK releases have this instead now:

    http://www.copyrightaware.co.uk/abou...-you-ident.asp

    Take heed, America.
    Wow, that video would actually make me feel good for buying the movie instead of pirating and never buying it.
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  29. Post #29
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    February 2006
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    pay for warnings :D
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  30. Post #30
    Cmx
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    November 2005
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    Thankfully, most UK releases have this instead now:

    http://www.copyrightaware.co.uk/abou...-you-ident.asp

    Take heed, America.
    For me this would go a long way in purchasing dvds/blu rays, not the "hey we got your money now, fuck you eat a dick" we get on the shit here.
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  31. Post #31
    ASK ME ABOUT MY BEN FOLDS FETISH
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    April 2010
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    And they wonder why people pirate!
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    Dennab
    February 2012
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    Unskippable previews have become more of a rarity now, but I still find the occasional disc with them. Nowadays, however, I direct my frustration to the RIDICULOUS loading times for Blu-Ray movies because they spend so much time attempting to connect to the internet to download current information or a new trailer. On our standalone Blu-Ray player, it takes 2-4 minutes to get to the main menu of Avatar, 90% of which is spent staring at a "LOADING..." screen. My PS3 is thankfully much faster, but it's still ridiculous.
    Well, you bought it and you know what BluRays have nowadays, so if you dislike the service, stop buying them.

  33. Post #33
    quinaking's Avatar
    February 2009
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    The only time I ever noticed these types of things was the first Red vs Blue DVD.

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  34. Post #34
    I DRAW SEALS
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    March 2009
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    It's a simple psychology lesson really. Positive reinforcement works a lot better than negative. So saying 'please buy some stuff and thank you for buying' is better than saying 'ok you bought it, don't steal fuckass or we'll court martial you'. It's common courtesy really.
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  35. Post #35
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    May 2005
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    On my player if you hit the menu button at the right time you can skip all warnings.
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  36. Post #36
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    March 2010
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    Well, you bought it and you know what BluRays have nowadays, so if you dislike the service, stop buying them.
    Not as practical as you'd think. I think a big issue is that there's really no competition to Blu-Ray ever since HD-DVD was knocked out. This has the major benefit of giving consumers a consistent library of movies (no bouncing between formats), but it also lets them get away with pretty much whatever they want.

    The alternative is to just flat-out stop buying movies and, if I'm being fully honest, I don't have the inclination to do so and I'd bet it's the same for just about everyone.

    Edited:

    It's a simple psychology lesson really. Positive reinforcement works a lot better than negative. So saying 'please buy some stuff and thank you for buying' is better than saying 'ok you bought it, don't steal fuckass or we'll court martial you'. It's common courtesy really.
    I don't know if it's this way outside of America, but it appears to be common practice in the movie, music and videogame industry to assume your customers are criminals until proven otherwise. Not exactly good for fostering trust or healthy business practices.

  37. Post #37
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    October 2010
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    are they fucking dumb? people pirate movies just so they don't have previews and other bullshit burned in their retina

  38. Post #38
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    January 2005
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    (the new scheme requires all legal purchasers to sit through 20 seconds of warnings each time they pop in a film, but will be totally absent from pirated downloads and bootlegs)
    Let me re-write that for you...

    (the new scheme requires all legal purchasers to sit though one skippable legal warning with a big prominent warning that says "Piracy is illegal, don't support it. Visit www.StopPiracy.gov to find out more". All company product advertising is being forced to part of the DVD/Blu-Ray when people can easily seek it out if they're interested instead of it being prominently displayed before the menus/movie each time the DVD/Blu-Ray put into the device for playback)

  39. Post #39
    #lmao #owned
    Hamsterjuice's Avatar
    January 2009
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    not defending this stupid stuff, but with the way some of you are acting you must be really impatient
    i just get a drink of water or something while the dumb warnings play
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  40. Post #40
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    March 2010
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    not defending this stupid stuff, but with the way some of you are acting you must be really impatient
    i just get a drink of water or something while the dumb warnings play
    It's more the principle of the matter than it is the inconvenience. I can wait the extra few seconds just like the next guy but the fact that these warnings even exist on legal, store-bought products is just another slap in the face to customers.

    Businesses need to stop treating their customers as though they're criminals and instead say something like "Thank you for buying a legal version of this film. Enjoy the show!"
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