1. Post #1
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18095370

    BBC News posted:
    File-sharing website The Pirate Bay (TPB) has been hit by a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack.

    The site has been largely inaccessible for the last 24 hours, and the service is intermittent in the UK.

    The Pirate Bay has confirmed the attack on its Facebook page, saying that it did not know who was behind it, although it "had its suspicions".

    A provider of DDoS defence systems said that it was unlikely that the attack came from hacking group Anonymous.

    "There will be further attacks, but what's significant about this whole story is that people think that it is the Anonymous attacking a site which is typically a type of site that they defend," said Andre Stewart of Corero Network Security.

    "It could be the record labels, or a government somewhere that has had enough of not being able to catch The Pirate Bay, it could be just one person who had rented some cloud power from Amazon and is sitting in a cafe, and is able to launch an attack."

    Although some users may have attempted to access the site using proxies, TPB itself warned them against doing so.

    Illegal file sharing

    "Use proxies at own risk. Don't login unless you trust the proxy supplier. Don't freak out. You'll get your TPB fix tomorrow," said the site.

    Being an illegal file-sharing site, TPB allows users to obtain songs, films and other content free, thus angering copyright holders who end up losing money.

    "If they're losing money and seeing that the government is not being able to stop it, there's a real monetary value reason for them to try and bring it down," said Mr Stewart.

    "And if they can do it in the name of Anonymous then it's great for them.

    "Equally the governments that protect these industries are frustrated as well because they haven't been able to see it close down, unlike a number of other torrent sites."

    Open and free

    Virgin Media began preventing access to the file-sharing site following a High Court order last week.

    Some time later the Virgin Media website suffered a hack attack that many thought was organised to protest against efforts to block access to TPB.

    Twitter feeds associated with the Anonymous collective wrote: "Virgin Media - Tango Down #OpTPB".

    But TPB criticised Anonymous for the attack, writing on its Facebook page that it did not "encourage these actions".

    "We believe in the open and free internets, where anyone can express their views," wrote TPB.

    "Even if we strongly disagree with them and even if they hate us. So don't fight them using their ugly methods. DDoS and blocks are both forms of censorship."
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  2. Post #2
    "Epic Leddit pwner :)"
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    I feel kinda sorry for the guys behind TPB



    Unrelated, but why is reddit.com looking at this thread?
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  3. Post #3
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    I feel kinda sorry for the guys behind TPB



    Unrelated, but why is reddit.com looking at this thread?
    le reading le thread
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  4. Post #4
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    Its like the criminal cartel warfare in Mexico, only everyone is white and nerdy.
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    Dennab
    July 2009
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    Arent there like 500 TPB mirrors?
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    Being an illegal file-sharing site, TPB allows users to obtain songs, films and other content free, thus angering copyright holders who end up losing money.
    I'm sorry BBC, but that's technically wrong. It's more like the guy who points you to the guy who gives you the illegal content. I don't support piracy, but bullshit statements like that are bad reporting. I won't even start with the lost money deal, how can you lose what you never had?
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  7. Post #7
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    There is a workaround.

    That's all I can say without risking getting banned.
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  8. Post #8
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    I feel kinda sorry for the guys behind TPB



    Unrelated, but why is reddit.com looking at this thread?
    I think that Redditbot is also collecting ratings for Overv's rating script.
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    I think that Redditbot is also collecting ratings for Overv's rating script.
    What ratings script?

  10. Post #10
    "Epic Leddit pwner :)"
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  11. Post #11
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    Um, it's working for me?
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  12. Post #12
    NEAT GUY
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    It'll be back soon.
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  13. Post #13
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    One thing's for sure, this is a good test to see if the workarounds work, in case The Pirate Bay ever goes down completely.

  14. Post #14
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    One thing's for sure, this is a good test to see if the workarounds work, in case The Pirate Bay ever goes down completely.
    Well there's already a document that fits on a micro-usb that's the entire TPB database so workarounds aren't difficult.
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  15. Post #15
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    Even if it's just correlation, still ironic how this happened shortly after condemning Anonymous' DDoS attacks.
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  16. Post #16
    ultimate poster
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    that's not irony
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  17. Post #17
    No shit it's not anonymous, why would they ever take down TPB
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  18. Post #18
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    It's working for me and my ISP is blocking the thing!
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    Working fine, but then again, the article says it was down for the last 24 hours, not right now.

  20. Post #20
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    Dennab
    October 2008
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    Who uses public trackers anyway
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  22. Post #22
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    Who uses public trackers anyway
    As has been said, The Pirate Bay has never really been important because of its content or size - rather, it's the posterchild of every tracker, file sharing site and p2p-network out there, and personifies the idea of a free and open internet.
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  23. Post #23
    Pirate bay is going down in history. They've been through countless attacks and lawsuits and are still alive and stronger than ever.
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    Wouldn't surprise me if it's got something to do with "MAFIAA" again.
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  25. Post #25
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    Warez-BB came under a DDOS attack at the same time, too

    CONSPIRACY
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  26. Post #26
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    Pirate bay is going down in history. They've been through countless attacks and lawsuits and are still alive and stronger than ever.
    It's doing what pirate radio stations were doing way back. Perhaps one day they'll become a legimate thing without losing it's values.

  27. Post #27
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    No shit it's not anonymous, why would they ever take down TPB
    Because TPB criticized Anon's attack on Virgin Media.
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    Because TPB criticized Anon's attack on Virgin Media.
    Seems like a pretty petty reason to do something like that to something they normally strongly defend.
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    Seems like a pretty petty reason to do something like that to something they normally strongly defend.
    I was thinking more on the lines of "anon gets all their linux distros from there, why would they want to disable it"
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    Seems like a pretty petty reason to do something like that to something they normally strongly defend.
    You're saying that like Anon never does stuff for petty reasons.
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  31. Post #31
    Not all the ddos swarms are done by Anon, drop that bullshit.
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  32. Post #32
    retarded faggot
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    Not all the ddos swarms are done by Anon, drop that bullshit.
    Yet some kid will still make a post bragging about him and "anon" doing it later.

    That's how most of the attacks work.
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  33. Post #33
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    Not all the ddos swarms are done by Anon, drop that bullshit.
    A good deal of them are. The people who actually know what the fuck they are doing don't need to DDoS something to take it down, or cause service interruptions. Plus seeing as Anon isn't organised and anyone can claim to be Anonymous, yeah, they kinda are all done by "Anon".
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  35. Post #35
    No such thing as overkill.
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    I won't even start with the lost money deal, how can you lose what you never had?
    Yeah, clearly companies never lose money due to rampant piracy. Having enormous numbers of people pirating their media instead of buying it couldn't possibly result in any fiscal trouble whatsoever. It's not like they have return expectations on their investment that, when not met, are commonly termed a 'loss' or anything.

    The BBC description of TPB is retarded and inaccurate, but so is white-knighting copyright infringement.
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  36. Post #36
    Needs more suspension.
    Dennab
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    I'm sorry BBC, but that's technically wrong. It's more like the guy who points you to the guy who gives you the illegal content. I don't support piracy, but bullshit statements like that are bad reporting. I won't even start with the lost money deal, how can you lose what you never had?
    it's potentially lost revenue because customers just pirate it and don't buy the game

    so if you're selling apples for 5 bucks a pound, and then people learn you can just go pick them off trees- that's money lost because there's no reason to buy them
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  37. Post #37
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    Yeah I think it's someone framing Anon, I really don't see them doing this, not with Diablo 3 being released.

    This is of course, assuming that this Anon is 4chan like usual.

    Edited:

    it's potentially lost revenue because customers just pirate it and don't buy the game

    so if you're selling apples for 5 bucks a pound, and then people learn you can just go pick them off trees- that's money lost because there's no reason to buy them
    But who's to make sure the people would actually buy them if they couldn't get them for free?

    potential loss =/= loss
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  38. Post #38
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    Um, it's working for me?

    No dice for me
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    it's potentially lost revenue because customers just pirate it and don't buy the game

    so if you're selling apples for 5 bucks a pound, and then people learn you can just go pick them off trees- that's money lost because there's no reason to buy them
    There are apples on trees? I'm going to pick some. There are no apples on trees? I don't want them enough to buy them anyway.
    Not a lost sale if I was never going to buy apples anyway. Just because I grow my own apples does not mean it's lost sale for shops.
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    Yeah I think it's someone framing Anon, I really don't see them doing this, not with Diablo 3 being released.

    This is of course, assuming that this Anon is 4chan like usual.

    Edited:



    But who's to make sure the people would actually buy them if they couldn't get them for free?

    potential loss =/= loss
    If everyone pirated everything, all the game/movie companies would go out of business.
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