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    March 2012
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    Christopher Doyon, a.k.a. Commander X, sits atop a hillside in an undisclosed location in Canada, watching a reporter and photographer make their way along a narrow path to join him, away from the prying eyes of law enforcement.

    It’s been a few weeks of encrypted emails back and forth, working out the security protocol to follow for interviewing Doyon, one of the brains behind Anonymous, now a fugitive from the FBI.

    Doyon, who readily admits taking part in some of the highest-profile hacktivist attacks on websites last year — from Tunisia to Orlando, Sony to PayPal — was arrested in September for a comparatively minor assault on the county website of Santa Cruz, Calif., where he was living, in retaliation for the town forcibly removing a homeless encampment on the courthouse steps.

    The “virtual sit-in” lasted half an hour. For that, Doyon is facing 15 years in jail.

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    Or at least he was facing 15 years in jail, until he crossed the border into Canada in February to avoid prosecution, using what he calls the new “underground railroad” and a network of safe houses across the country.

    Thanks to his indictment, Doyon is one of the few Anonymous members whose real name is now publicly known.


    AFP/Getty Images
    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange
    But as the leader of the People’s Liberation Front — a hacker group allied with Anonymous — and the second-most wanted information activist after WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange, he prefers not to show his face, and instead dons the ubiquitous Guy Fawkes mask, to wear with his Sunday best: a sweatshirt with the Anonymous calling card, “We do not forgive … We do not forget.”

    Terrorists to some, heroes to others, the jury is still out on Anonymous’s true nature. Known for its robust defence of Internet freedom – and the right to remain anonymous — Anonymous came in first place in Time Magazine’s 2012 online poll on the most influential person in the world.

    Fox News, on the other hand, has branded the hackers “domestic terrorists,” a role Anonymous has been cast to play in the latest Call of Duty Black Ops II, in which Anonymous appears as the enemy who takes control of unmanned drones in the not-too-distant future. (That creative decision may have put Activision, the creator of the video-game series, at the top of the Anonymous hit list.) For its part, much of what Anonymous does and says about itself, in the far reaches of the Internet, cannot be verified. Nor do all Anons agree on who they are as a group, and where they are going.

    — — — — —

    Q: As strictly an online army of hackers, how powerful is Anonymous?
    A: Anonymous is kind of like the big buff kid in school who had really bad self-esteem then all of a sudden one day he punched someone in the face and went, “Holy s— I’m really strong!” Scientology (one of Anonymous’s first targets) was the punch in the face where Anonymous began to realize how incredibly powerful they are. There’s a really good argument at this point that we might well be the most powerful organization on Earth. The entire world right now is run by information. Our entire world is being controlled and operated by tiny invisible 1s and 0s that are flashing through the air and flashing through the wires around us. So if that’s what controls our world, ask yourself who controls the 1s and the 0s? It’s the geeks and computer hackers of the world.

    Q: What does it mean to be a leader of a leaderless organization?
    A: We don’t sit around and elect a president but that doesn’t mean there aren’t leaders within Anonymous. Naturally Commander X or Barrett Brown or Peter Fein, whether they have names or are still anonymous, they take a leadership role and are looked up to. The average Anon is not like me, working 12 hours a day dedicating their life to this. He’s an IT guy or a cable installer with a few hours to spare and he wants to be told what to do. It takes organizers to get things done. Anyone in Anon can be a spokesperson but my ability to speak is based on how much what I say squares with the consensus of the collective.

    Recent attacks by Anonymous

    May 9 – Anonymous brought down Russian President Vladimir Putin’s website and the Kremlin’s website to support the country’s protests against alleged vote tampering during the March elections.

    May 9 – Anonymous attacked the UN’s official website, accusing it of ignoring the plight of Palestinian hunger strikers protesting their detention without trial in Israel.

    April 24 – Anonymous attacked the Greek finance ministry website to protest its plans to fight tax evasion by tracking citizens’ bank, telephone and credit card data.

    April 20 – Anonymous takes down the Formula One website, for holding the event in Bahrain, and to support local protesters fighting against the continued government repression of activists and opposition politicians.

    April 5 – Anonymous hacks into hundreds of Chinese government websites, taking down the “Great Firewall of China” and offering tips on how to bypass government censorship.

    - Catherine Solyom
    Q: It seems like there’s a war going on between hacktivists or information activists and law enforcement. (At least 40 alleged members of Anonymous have been arrested around the world in the last year.) Who do you think is winning right now?
    A: I think it’s a stalemate at the moment. I think eventually we’ll win. I’ve always believed that right will always prevail. But at the moment the arrests have had a chilling effect on the movement. For a 30-minute online protest I’m facing 15 years in a penitentiary. For the moment that’s the only indictment against me but I expect there will be more. And it’s not just about the potential penalty but it’s the trial itself for which they delivered a terabyte of discovery. That’s about 150,000 pages for a 30-minute protest. That means my trial will be two years long and during that time I’m under strict surveillance by the FBI. I can’t access Twitter, Facebook or IRCs (Internet Relay Chats)– I can’t contact any known member of Anonymous – who are about 50,000 people around the world.

    So basically it shuts me down as an activist. Even if I prevail in court, I’m still shut down for two years. Well, I’m unwilling to do that – and that’s why I’m Canada. In Syria and Tunisia, Libya, Egypt in Nigeria in the Ivory Coast, we have saved so many lives I can’t even count – activists and journalists and bloggers and people who come to us to keep themselves safe in these extremely hostile environments – and I’m unwilling to lay that kind of work down.

    Q: Now that you’re in Canada for the foreseeable future, do you feel relatively safe?
    A: Yes. We have a lot of contacts in the Canadian government. We were well prepared when I came here, we have an underground railway, and safe houses in Canada. We might be wrong, but our understanding is that the Canadian government is about equally concerned with Anonymous and the United States. Their approach will be: “Step lively, don’t stay long, and you’ll be fine.” So we’re in negotiation with several countries in Europe to try to get a permanent political asylum situation set up for myself as well as for any other Anons and information activists who might need it. … It’s too bad Canada will not find the political courage to protect information activists from America like they did in the ‘60s with the draft dodgers. That’s the reality of it, but they will probably not actively seek to track me down.

    Q: Do you think the general public is not concerned enough with online surveillance or real-life surveillance?
    A: I think the general public is beginning to learn the value of information. To give an example, for a very long time nobody in the U.S. or the world was allowed to know the number of civilian casualties in Afghanistan or Iraq. There were wild guesses and they were all over the ballpark figures, until a young army private named Bradley Manning had the courage to steal that information from the U.S. government and release it. Now we know that despite their smart munitions and all their high-technology they have somehow managed to accidentally kill 150,000 civilians in two countries. … As these kinds of startling facts come out, the public will begin to realize the value of the information and they will realize that the activists are risking everything for that information to be public.

    Q: What do you say to people who believe Anons are just cyber-terrorists?
    A: Basically I decline the semantic argument. If you want to call me a terrorist, I have no problem with that. But I would ask you, “Who is it that’s terrified?” If it’s the bad guys who are terrified, I’m really super OK with that. If it’s the average person, the people out in the world we are trying to help who are scared of us, I’d ask them to educate themselves, to do some research on what it is we do and lose that fear. We’re fighting for the people, we are fighting, as Occupy likes to say, for the 99%. It’s the 1% people who are wrecking our planet who should be quite terrified. If to them we are terrorists, then they probably got that right.

    ‘I think eventually we’ll win. I’ve always believed that right will always prevail’
    “Information terrorist” – what a funny concept. That you could terrorize someone with information. But who’s terrorized? Is it the common people reading the newspaper and learning what their government is doing in their name? They’re not terrorized – they’re perfectly satisfied with that situation. It’s the people trying to hide these secrets, who are trying to hide these crimes. The funny thing is every email database that I’ve ever been a part of stealing, from Pres. Assad to Stratfor security, every email database, every single one has had crimes in it. Not one time that I’ve broken into a corporation or a government, and found their emails and thought, “Oh my God, these people are perfectly innocent people, I made a mistake.”

    Q: What do you think of the student protests in Quebec?
    A: Wherever I go, especially in the last two years, I have found protests. I had no idea this was going on in Canada and the day I arrived in Montreal I was in a coffee house downtown on the corner of Ste. Catherine and St. Hubert. And there was a protest right there at that park across the street. The entire intersection became inflamed, I watched police absolutely brutalize these kids, spraying can after can of tear gas, launching off pop-bang grenades, tear gas grenades, and the worse thing I saw these kids do, one of them threw a snowball, and one of them threw an orange rubber cone at these cops. I mean these cops are in full body armour for God’s sake, that’s not violence. But what was done to these kids was so violent that the coffee shop manager locked us all into the coffee shop. Locked the doors while all around us, literally in these glass windows all around us, we watched the kids get beaten down. Wherever I go whether Oakland, San Francisco, Montreal, everywhere I go I see the same stuff. I see people rising up demanding justice and these brutal, paramilitary police departments being used to crush them and sure, I get involved.


    Peter McCabe/Postmedia News
    Police officers fire tear gas at student protesters in Montreal, April 20, 2012.
    Q: Anonymous started out as online pranksters but has gotten a whole lot more serious in the last two years. What happened?
    A: I believe Egypt was really a turning point for us emotionally in Anonymous. Obviously there was always that sort of prankster edge to us. But people often ask me, “Why are you so mean nowadays?” It started in Egypt – when you work for days to set up live video feeds and the first thing you watch through those feeds is people killing your friends with machine guns – that becomes personal. And then it’s not just Egypt, it’s Libya, Tunisia, over and over again these Freedom Ops are really what gave us a sort of take-no prisoners attitude. We get to know these people. It may not be the same as you and I sitting here, but when you Skype with people and spend hours and hours talking with them on IRC (Internet Relay Chat) and they share their hopes and their dreams with you for their country, their future, when they tell you how they’re risking their lives so their children can have a better future in some far-off land, you bond with those people and they become your friends and family.

    Q. What’s next for Anonymous?
    A: Right now we have access to every classified database in the U.S. government. It’s a matter of when we leak the contents of those databases, not if. You know how we got access? We didn’t hack them. The access was given to us by the people who run the systems. The five-star general (and) the Secretary of Defence who sit in the cushy plush offices at the top of the Pentagon don’t run anything anymore. It’s the pimply-faced kid in the basement who controls the whole game, and Bradley Manning proved that. The fact he had the 250,000 cables that were released effectively cut the power of the U.S. State Department in half. The Afghan war diaries and the Iran war diaries effectively cut the political clout of the U.S. Department of Defence in half. All because of one guy who had enough balls to slip a CD in an envelope and mail it to somebody.

    Now people are leaking to Anonymous and they’re not coming to us with this document or that document or a CD, they’re coming to us with keys to the kingdom, they’re giving us the passwords and usernames to whole secure databases that we now have free reign over. … The world needs to be concerned.

    Postmedia News
    Powerful anons fapping to furry porn. yep.

    Inb la- Oh fuck....
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  2. Post #2
    Conservative Cunt who fucking loves piss
    Elecbullet's Avatar
    November 2007
    11,085 Posts
    I scoff every time I hear about any sort of contact with any sort of "leader" of Anonymous. There is none.
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  3. Post #3
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    February 2011
    7,550 Posts
    Don't fuck with Anonymouse! They might post furry porn on here!
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  4. Post #4
    IQ-Guldfisk's Avatar
    September 2009
    1,718 Posts
    Is it just me but doesn't people who claim to be a part of anonymous feel like they are pretentious and are probably not contributing the slightest to the "organization" but merely seeking attention?
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  5. Post #5
    Ah yes "opinions"
    Jackald's Avatar
    October 2005
    16,239 Posts
    Anyone who says they're part of anonymous isn't part of anonymous. The moment they give themself a permanent handle or give out their real name, they aren't anonymous, they're just some person.
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  6. Post #6
    Marbalo's Avatar
    June 2011
    2,309 Posts
    There are several other e-organizations, groups of people and freelancers that are far more 'dangerous' than anonymous. Some of these organizations are the kind that actually deserve to be called hackers in the most non-media-bullshit way.

    Anonymous is really not that significant, people are joining and leaving it on a whim as it has no real qualifications or structure. Its silly to assume that those two attributes equate to 'most dangerous'. It just means it's the largest.

  7. Post #7
    dunkace's Avatar
    May 2012
    585 Posts
    oh noes, the leaders of furry porn and hentai are in a civil war with law enforcements. what ever shall we do...
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  8. Post #8
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    August 2008
    11,209 Posts
    Q: As strictly an online army of hackers, how powerful is Anonymous?
    A: Anonymous is kind of like the big buff kid in school who had really bad self-esteem then all of a sudden one day he punched someone in the face and went, “Holy s— I’m really strong!” Scientology (one of Anonymous’s first targets) was the punch in the face where Anonymous began to realize how incredibly powerful they are. There’s a really good argument at this point that we might well be the most powerful organization on Earth. The entire world right now is run by information. Our entire world is being controlled and operated by tiny invisible 1s and 0s that are flashing through the air and flashing through the wires around us. So if that’s what controls our world, ask yourself who controls the 1s and the 0s? It’s the geeks and computer hackers of the world.'

    hmmm no i think anonymous is more like the geeky loser kid with no friends that got beat up by the buff kids and then goes home thinking 'WELL HERE ON THE INTERNET I AM ALL POWERFUL!' what a delusional little prick.
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  9. Post #9
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    -Chief-'s Avatar
    August 2007
    3,583 Posts
    Oh god, don't inflate their ego more.

  10. Post #10
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    Lachz0r's Avatar
    August 2008
    11,209 Posts
    how typical of some 4chan fucking geek loser to compare himself and his faggy organization to a strong kid in school
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    DireAvenger's Avatar
    February 2007
    6,746 Posts
    Anonymous is the crack-head schizophrenic who thinks they're a level 69 Elf Wizard named 420 Smoke Doogies and that they now know how to cast Worldrend

  12. Post #12
    2014 SH Pun Award Nominee
    Awesomecaek's Avatar
    January 2009
    19,623 Posts
    I was really unsure if I am going through hardocre deja-vu but this got posted several days ago, already.
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  13. Post #13
    I can't think of a good title.
    Reds's Avatar
    May 2010
    14,427 Posts
    They aren't a fucking group. They're a bunch of people who think that they sound tough when they use the name, and the media isn't helping.
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  14. Post #14
    supertribute's Avatar
    March 2012
    1,701 Posts
    I was really unsure if I am going through hardocre deja-vu but this got posted several days ago, already.
    I guess I'll be the fool to pity. :p

  15. Post #15
    The King Of Zing
    minilandstan's Avatar
    September 2009
    14,737 Posts
    Move over Warlords, Drug Cartels, and Mass Murderers. You don't stand a chance against a bunch of brute force script kiddies
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  16. Post #16
    BroDuck's Buttslut
    Ban Camp's Avatar
    January 2011
    5,108 Posts
    careful before whoever "anon" is stops a couple websites

    so much power and will
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  17. Post #17
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    Eluveitie's Avatar
    November 2009
    14,206 Posts
    Dunno why people think glorifying Anonymous is a good idea. All it does it take attention away from the real hacker groups.

  18. Post #18
    itt: fat losers who don't accomplish anything whine about people who actually effect the world.
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  19. Post #19
    BAN ME IF I POST IN CIPWTTKT&GC
    smace's Avatar
    May 2012
    395 Posts
    itt: fat losers who don't accomplish anything whine about people who actually effect the world.
    Anonymous = fat losers with LOIC.
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  20. Post #20
    Valor
    Novangel's Avatar
    September 2008
    18,087 Posts
    Anonymous isn't a group, it's a label.

  21. Post #21
    let's be honest though, they may not be capable of influencing the world with their LOIC, but power comes from people giving it to you.

    The media seems so infatuated with anonymous that, despite them ebing basement dwellers with LOIC, they are making an impact. Even if that impact is merely spreading awareness of "cyberterrorism"
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  22. Post #22
    I'm so Jewish you can suck my nuts.
    d00msdaydan's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,998 Posts
    itt: fat losers who don't accomplish anything whine about people who actually effect the world.
    Well aren't you cool and edgy
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  23. Post #23
    supertribute's Avatar
    March 2012
    1,701 Posts
    itt: fat losers who don't accomplish anything whine about people who actually effect the world.
    I think you're talking about Something Awful, everyone is fat there. On 4chan, everyone is gay.
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  24. Post #24
    Cheesedragon's Avatar
    December 2009
    1,544 Posts
    Wait a minute why doesn't Facepunch like Anonymous?!? Because most of their members are 4channers??
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  25. Post #25
    BAN ME IF I POST IN CIPWTTKT&GC
    smace's Avatar
    May 2012
    395 Posts
    Wait a minute why doesn't Facepunch like Anonymous?!? Because most of their members are 4channers??
    I'm going to guess its because all they do is attack faces instead of actually making something happening.
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  26. Post #26
    Dennab
    September 2011
    3,417 Posts
    Wait a minute why doesn't Facepunch like Anonymous?!? Because most of their members are 4channers??
    Because it's easier to go with the flow.
    Anonymous is very good at what it does, and I am looking forward for them to release all kinds of nasty government documents and reports.

  27. Post #27
    BAN ME IF I POST IN CIPWTTKT&GC
    smace's Avatar
    May 2012
    395 Posts
    Because it's easier to go with the flow.
    Anonymous is very good at what it does, and I am looking forward for them to release all kinds of nasty government documents and reports.
    What have they done that have benefited Earths citizens in the passed other then creating undo stress for everyone involved.

  28. Post #28
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    V12US's Avatar
    August 2005
    4,169 Posts
    Wait a minute why doesn't Facepunch like Anonymous?!? Because most of their members are 4channers??
    I think most people here browse 4chan from time to time.

    The reason everyone who knows what's what hates anonymous is because we all know that anonymous is for the most part made up of fifteen year old rebel kids who consider themselves l33t haxx0rz because they know how to run a DDOS script.

  29. Post #29
    Kawaii Member
    CheeseMan's Avatar
    July 2005
    16,428 Posts
    Because it's easier to go with the flow.
    Anonymous is very good at what it does, and I am looking forward for them to release all kinds of nasty government documents and reports.
    yeah, anonymous has done such great things as:

    harassing a 9 year old girl (jessi slaughter)
    failing to dismantle the church of scientology
    having nothing to do with any actual document leaks (that is coming from actual hackers)
    trying to bring down facebook
    trying to bring down everything

  30. Post #30
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    smace's Avatar
    May 2012
    395 Posts
    yeah, anonymous has done such great things as:

    harassing a 9 year old girl (jessi slaughter)
    failing to dismantle the church of scientology
    having nothing to do with any actual document leaks (that is coming from actual hackers)
    trying to bring down facebook
    trying to bring down everything
    Don't forget trying to take credit for Occupy and then getting the occupy movement associated with internet terrorism.

  31. Post #31
    schleimgurke1's Avatar
    March 2011
    1,311 Posts
    how typical of some 4chan fucking geek loser to compare himself and his faggy organization to a strong kid in school
    You sound really really angry.
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  32. Post #32
    supertribute's Avatar
    March 2012
    1,701 Posts
    What's funny that even so people hate 4chan here, yet, I remember some facepunch members contributing in taking down Scientology websites.

  33. Post #33
    Dennab
    October 2010
    4,306 Posts
    Wait, how the fuck did furry porn get brought up in this thread?

  34. Post #34
    Gold Member
    Dennab
    August 2005
    12,791 Posts
    North Korea seems way more dangerous than Anon IMO.

  35. Post #35
    BAN ME IF I POST IN CIPWTTKT&GC
    smace's Avatar
    May 2012
    395 Posts
    Al Qaeda has done more then Anonymous.

  36. Post #36
    Fujitechs's Avatar
    January 2012
    109 Posts
    Idk why I still read the comments in these threads. It makes me want to pull hair out.

  37. Post #37
    Bat-shit's Avatar
    October 2010
    11,210 Posts
    Powerful anons fapping to furry porn. yep.
    Almost like as if Facepunchers didn't jerk off to some equally fucked up shit. yep.
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  38. Post #38
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    Ekalektik_1's Avatar
    September 2008
    5,716 Posts
    I don't really care about Anon, they don't do jack most of the time. What I hate is how articles like this make the internet in general look bad by portraying it as some shadowy meeting ground for a mysterious, all-powerful organization (which describes neither the internet nor Anon). These kinds of articles are just really sensationalist.

  39. Post #39
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    Parakon's Avatar
    November 2008
    8,502 Posts
    this is dumb, your mom is essentially part of anonymous when shes on the internet, it isn't some cohesive group, it's literally all explained in the fucking name. The media is so awful.
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  40. Post #40
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    matrix_1995's Avatar
    May 2008
    3,679 Posts
    Oh well, I see articles regarding Anon are as sensationalized as ever. It's more of a label than a group, so I'm skeptical about the concept of 'executive high-standing Anon person man chief boss', but I admittedly do find some hilarity in how FP is often hatred-circlejerking in threads like these.
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