1. Post #1
    Fight until death, shoot until empty.

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    PHILADELPHIA A police officer was released from the hospital Saturday evening after being beaten with his own baton during what authorities called a "life-or-death struggle"; Saturday morning that ended with a robbery suspect wounded outside a busy shopping center in West Philadelphia.

    "This was an absolute battle," said Lt. Ray Evers, a police spokesman, "and we are very lucky this officer was not killed."

    About 10:30 a.m., the officer pulled up to investigate the report of an attempted robbery outside a restaurant near the Park West Town Center at North 52d and West Jefferson Streets. The uniformed officer was alone in a marked police cruiser, Evers said. Police did not release his name.

    A man pointed to the tall, heavyset suspect, saying he tried to steal his backpack. Police did not release the suspect's identity Saturday.

    When the officer approached, the suspect began striking and punching him, Evers said. The officer tried to defend himself with his expandable steel baton, Evers said, but dropped it while grappling with the suspect, who tried to pry his service weapon from its holster.

    The suspect picked up the baton and began beating the officer, Evers said. During the struggle, the officer used his shoulder walkie-talkie to call for backup, witnesses said.

    Emmanuel Griffin, 64, a cook at Park Side Breakfast & Lunch, described the suspect as about 6-foot-1 and 320 pounds — much larger than the police officer, he said.

    The officer fired about seven shots at close range, Evers said, striking the assailant five or six times.

    But the bullets barely slowed him down. Despite being shot, he kept attacking the officer, witnesses said.

    "The guy went down, got back up, still strong enough to be wielding the nightstick at the cop," Griffin said, describing bullet wounds to the suspect's shoulder, chest, groin, and legs.

    Police are investigating whether the suspect was under the influence of drugs, Evers said.

    Officers responding to the distress call surrounded the suspect, still on his feet, and got him to lie down, Griffin said.

    But he kept fighting.

    "Police went over to handcuff him, and he jumped back up, elbowing and knocking policemen down," Griffin said. "They jumped on him again and got him cuffed."

    The suspect, Evers said, was listed in critical condition.

    Said Evers: "We escaped a tragedy today."
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    Sounds like a fight scene from an action movie
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    gRuKz's Avatar
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    wonder what caliber was used

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    wonder what caliber was used
    Probably 9x19 or .38 Special.
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    Police are investigating whether the suspect was under the influence of drugs
    No shit. You don't get shot "five or six times" and still end up standing if you aren't on drugs.
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    The officer fired about seven shots at close range, Evers said, striking the assailant five or six times.

    But the bullets barely slowed him down. Despite being shot, he kept attacking the officer, witnesses said.

    "The guy went down, got back up, still strong enough to be wielding the nightstick at the cop," Griffin said, describing bullet wounds to the suspect's shoulder, chest, groin, and legs.
    Sounds a lot like he was high off PCP to me. Especially considering the part about how he just didn't even pay that much attention to the fact he was being shot repeatedly.
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    Police are investigating whether the suspect was under the influence of drugs, Evers said.
    Probably not. I mean, I constantly take 6 bullets and still beat the shit out of the asshole who shot me.
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  8. Post #8
    Fight until death, shoot until empty.

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    Probably 9x19 or .38 Special.
    .40?
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    What's interesting here is that it isn't mentioned that he died. Only that he lied down. Holy shit if the assailant survives.
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    Bullets don't really do much to people. Sure, in the long run your are probably gonna die of some complication, but you have to remember the physical force actually hitting you isn't that great - it's only equal to the recoil force of a gun.
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    Fight until death, shoot until empty.

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    What's interesting here is that it isn't mentioned that he died. Only that he lied down. Holy shit if the assailant survives.
    Hes in critical condition

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    No shit. You don't get shot "five or six times" and still end up standing if you aren't on drugs.
    Unless you're a super hero. I'm pretty sure those are fictional though.

    Drugs easily turn average joes into super-powered tanks.

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    yeah you're right there, it's possible. good point.
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    Around here we carried Glock 22s, which can fire either a 9mm or .40 cal. We used the .40 cal since the prices on them have been dropping recently. I'm pretty sure most departments still stick to 9mm though.

    It seems like the badguy will die. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't, similar things have happened. People don't understand that when the police shoot at you, they're trying to kill you. They'll do what they can to preserve your life by all means, that's great. But they're not suppose to do the cinematic shoot you in the knee thing to slow you down. If someone's assaulting you with a lethal amount of force, you present the same amount of force back. That's why you hear, "Shoot to kill." That's why you don't hear, "Shoot to arrest." Maybe if criminals understood that they'd be less hasty with their decisions :D
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    Bullets don't really do much to people. Sure, in the long run your are probably gonna die of some complication, but you have to remember the physical force actually hitting you isn't that great - it's only equal to the recoil force of a gun.
    What the fuck? Being shot can kill you within seconds or minuets. The do very much do a lot to someone.
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    No such thing as overkill.
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    Bullets don't really do much to people. Sure, in the long run your are probably gonna die of some complication, but you have to remember the physical force actually hitting you isn't that great - it's only equal to the recoil force of a gun.
    Your body is a big sack of water. The bullet is moving faster than the speed of sound. That immediate, massive deceleration produces enormous wound cavities and pressure shockwaves that rupture organs, burst blood vessels, and tear giant chunks out of the body. It's not all about how much force is applied to the target, but where and how.
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    Probably was on Phencyclidine, also known for making you basically immune to pain or injuries, at least until it wears off.

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    Hullu V3's Avatar
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    What's interesting here is that it isn't mentioned that he died. Only that he lied down. Holy shit if the assailant survives.
    Pfffft, 50 cent was shot five times and she's still making music.

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    Pfffft, 50 cent was shot five times and she's still making music.
    You mean he's still mumbling.
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    Pfffft, 50 cent was shot five times and she's still making music.
    QFT
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    Sounds a lot like he was high off PCP to me. Especially considering the part about how he just didn't even pay that much attention to the fact he was being shot repeatedly.
    Probably was on Phencyclidine, also known for making you basically immune to pain or injuries, at least until it wears off.
    No it really doesn't the impact of PCP to feeling pain is massively overstated. The probable reason for this conception about PCP is that at high doses it causes schizophrenic like behavior in which the person can be come highly paranoid, delusional and as a result violent. If you've very angry then you don't feel pain as much or it isn't prioritized due to the body's fight or flight and adrenaline response.

    For pure painkilling there are much more effective drugs such as heroin or fentanyl but both of those also have lower risks of violence due to it making the user sleepy and lethargic.

    To gain the pharmasetical level of painkilling qualities that disassociates such as ketamine or PCP have the dose has to be so high that the user would be almost always completely immobolised or unconcious.

  22. Post #22
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    Why are all of your sources "Police One?"

    Is that the only website you go to?

    Edited:

    Because that whole site reads like a bunch of selected propaganda pieces.

    Edited:

    Here's an article on that site that a SWAT officer wrote about Occupy Wall Street:

    http://www.policeone.com/Crowd-Contr...ir-revolution/

    There are thousands who have planned and trained long and hard for this event coming to Chicago (as well as other events in cities around the world). Those in training are the professional protestors. This is the era of the professional protester.
    trained professional protestors

    ???????????


    He's three sentences away from calling political dissidents terrorists.
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    Fight until death, shoot until empty.

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    Why are all of your sources "Police One?"

    Is that the only website you go to?

    Edited:

    Because that whole site reads like a bunch of selected propaganda pieces.

    Edited:

    Here's an article on that site that a SWAT officer wrote about Occupy Wall Street:

    http://www.policeone.com/Crowd-Contr...ir-revolution/



    trained professional protestors

    ???????????


    He's three sentences away from calling political dissidents terrorists.
    I use because it [normally] doesnt have politics wedged in every corner. If you think the site is propaganda -- Tough shit. They have writers from around the nation. The one of this article is from the Philadelphia Inquirer. I dont post articles that we're written by officers because of the one-sidedness. If you have a problem with the thread, leave.
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    If it doesn't have politics wedged in then why are there so many articles about how evil, violent and dangerous the Occupy Wall Street movement is?

    I don't really give a damn about the article, I'm just questioning your source. Why not cite the Philadelphia Inquirer rather than the second-hand account from a clearly biased source? At very least it would do you a lot more credibility not to be citing PoliceOne in every thread.

    Edited:

    I mean fucking look at this place:

    Posted by brsmith on Monday, May 21, 2012 02:53 PM Pacific Report Abuse
    To bad one of those bullets did not go into his head...

    Posted by Boot879 on Monday, May 21, 2012 02:05 PM Pacific Report Abuse
    Die... Die.


    And these are cops. Cops. Posting "die die" about dead people.

    Is that really the kind of place you think is going to lend legitimacy? I mean I know you don't like me but god damn don't give me ammunition.
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  26. Post #26
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    no their not!

    Anyone can have an account on the site. End of discussion. You ruined another thread
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    PCP is like some comic book super soldier serum.
    If it doesn't have politics wedged in then why are there so many articles about how evil, violent and dangerous the Occupy Wall Street movement is?

    I don't really give a damn about the article, I'm just questioning your source. Why not cite the Philadelphia Inquirer rather than the second-hand account from a clearly biased source? At very least it would do you a lot more credibility not to be citing PoliceOne in every thread.

    Edited:

    I mean fucking look at this place:

    Posted by brsmith on Monday, May 21, 2012 02:53 PM Pacific Report Abuse
    To bad one of those bullets did not go into his head...

    Posted by Boot879 on Monday, May 21, 2012 02:05 PM Pacific Report Abuse
    Die... Die.


    And these are cops. Cops. Posting "die die" about dead people.

    Is that really the kind of place you think is going to lend legitimacy?
    Hey, just be glad he's not Glaber and posting articles from a radical right Canadian newspaper with a 15-year-old secessionist from Texas listed as a contributor.

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    Lankist's Avatar
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    no their not!

    Anyone can have an account on the site. End of discussion. You ruined another thread
    I didn't ruin anything I'm just questioning the veracity of your only source.

    That website reeks of shithole. It certainly doesn't scream credibility. I'm trying to help you.
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    What's not credible about this article? If the article is alright then there's no reason to complain. Don't put this thread off-topic like you always do on all other threads.
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    Fight until death, shoot until empty.

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    I didn't ruin anything I'm just questioning the veracity of your only source.

    That website reeks of shithole. It certainly doesn't scream credibility. I'm trying to help you.
    There is nothing that would make you think that. Would you like more porn ads and chat bots on the page or what. The source is perfectly credible.
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    The guy was 300lbs+, so if he's wearing thick clothes, the bullets may just have lodged in his blubber.

    By the way, unless the bullets hit his head, heart, or a weight bearing bone, adrenaline alone is enough to keep a person going even after being shot. He can keep fighting till he bleeds to death if the bullets don't hit something vital.
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    2Pac also got shot 5 times and still had enough power to confront his "assilants". Its all about the adrenalin and your will to live.
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    Hullu V3's Avatar
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    2Pac also got shot 5 times and still had enough power to confront his "assilants". Its all about the adrenalin and your will to live.
    No, it's the amount of drugs you pump into your system.
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    Bullets don't really do much to people. Sure, in the long run your are probably gonna die of some complication, but you have to remember the physical force actually hitting you isn't that great - it's only equal to the recoil force of a gun.
    More properly one would say it is equal to the impulse.

  35. Post #35
    I'm rating winner because he didn't die.
    Fuck you, suspect

  36. Post #36
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    Jesus, he must've been a friend of Sarah Connor. Is there any confirmation on the suspect's current state? I'm curious if he lived or not.

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    Bullets don't really do much to people. Sure, in the long run your are probably gonna die of some complication, but you have to remember the physical force actually hitting you isn't that great - it's only equal to the recoil force of a gun.
    As an EMT and an Army combat medic and after witnessing in person the effects of someone getting shot... I have to say I disagree.
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    No, it's the amount of drugs you pump into your system.
    What is adrenaline technically? A natural drug that is produced in situations that it is perceived as necessary to survive usually at the cost of muscle tearing and ever exertion of bodily systems including the heart.

  39. Post #39
    Fight until death, shoot until empty.

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    Jesus, he must've been a friend of Sarah Connor. Is there any confirmation on the suspect's current state? I'm curious if he lived or not.
    Critical condition at the time if posting. I'm going to guess Hes going to live.