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Major flaw in that test: It's a short term study, not a long term one. It's certain that while and just after watching violent acts people can get more violent but the question is if it stays with them.
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I watched that video, but I got too little info out of it. It is basically 8 minutes of watching a kid pummel an inflatable doll. There is nothing conclusive about this at all.
Perhaps violence against the doll was a manner of immitation. If the children were shown clips of random violence, perhaps no way involving a creepy clown that never stays down, then would they still react violently to the doll?
And what about the control? I didn't see any clips of children who didn't watch the violent shit.
And how are we supposed to equate violence against a doll to violence against fellow humans?
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Because stupid people love celebrities, and there is a lot of brand recognition in Garry's name, so he was deemed rather arbitrarily a celebrity.Sheepy! posted:
(To contrast, I think that if Garry had made Garry's Mod, but instead called it something like ButtBungler Mod, then he would have sold just as many copies of the game, but he wouldn't be a celebrity.)
Hold on, I am going to start drawing up the design docs for ButtBungler.
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This is about children being easily influenced. Children above ten in America were proven to be capable of differing reality from their games and TV shows. Frankly why the hell would you let a kid BELOW ten watch violent films or war films? They usually don't even get it.
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I think I'm generally a more aggressive and violent person due to TV and video games, but mostly TV.
I think if it weren't for my spurs of depression and my parents I would either be dead or have killed someone years ago.
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That made me laugh out loudCathbadh posted:
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http://www.holah.karoo.net/bandurastudy.htmCathbadh posted:
That's a good summary of the experiment.
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We now all know that you are a 12 year old boy who wants to see titties on the TV without having to figure out your mom and pop's parental block code.Kikka-2 posted:
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If you saw a guy bleeding to death from a stomach wound as he shivered and became pale and started to gurgle and cry, would you want to be violent? It's not violence, it's unrealistic violence, so the censorship is actually doing the opposite on some shows. Unless you're really messed up you're not gonna want to kill someone after seeing the Normandy beach scene from Saving Private Ryan, or after seeing all the sick stuff the Joker does in The Dark Knight, no it's shows and video games that show violence unrealistically that encourage it.
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I watched the likes of "Cannibal Holocaust" and "A clockwork orange" before i was 10, my uncle was physically abusive towards my father whenever they were togeather, much of this i witnessed, and i first played GTA3 when i was about 10 and have been an avid gamer (most of these games violent) since.
Dispite all of this however, i have only been in one fight (Self defence, someone pulled a knife and tried to steal my wallet) don't often swear, am very healthy and i give a lot of love to my family (I'm buying my 3 year old sister a HUGE cuddly panda for christmas, she loves them) and i do a lot of work in my community for no payment other than satisfaction. I also get good grades at school (I am predicted all A's and B's for my GCSE's)
Although, unfortunatly this is not the case for everyone.
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Read about that study in college a few years back, the way it works is one group of kids were left in a room with the bobo doll, not very violent with it, just played with each other, they were the control group.
different group of kids showed the doll then shown a video of an adult beating the absolute shit out of the doll, kids then left to play with the doll, they copied the adult and beat the shit out of it.
We were told that this kind of imitation only occurs in young children, which is why young children are not allowed to play violent games, this is also the reason for the 9pm watershed on UK TV.
Apparently once a kid gets to about 13/14 ish they start thinking more for themselves and can think hypothetically, allowing them to relate to others instead of blindly imitating them. (other studies were performed to support this)
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I think I'm generally a more aggressive and violent person due to TV and video games, but mostly TV.
I think if it weren't for my spurs of depression and my parents I would either be dead or have killed someone years ago.
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I, for one, can tell the difference between a fucking blow up doll and a human being. I wouldn't now, but when I was young I might have hit the doll, but I CAN STILL SEPARATE THAT FROM REAL LIFE.
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What the fuck bump?
I've done this in psychology.
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T.V. taught me that only rednecks and black people are criminals because that is what I see on COPS.
The thing is it does NOT cause violence, nor does it stop violence. What Television does is it has an influence on people but it does not directly affect how a person acts.
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2008 bump is fail
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stop making violent video games garry
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No one rated him funny.
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because this is a thread from around the time of the old rating system mister
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rfa
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It's ok to bump a thread that's less than a year old if you have something to add to the discussion. If he'd remade the thread he MIGHT have gotten banned - although probably not, that usually only happens when you remake a very recent thread or there've been a lot of threads on the topic before.
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Read "The God Delusion", particularly the chapter: "The Roots of Morals: Why are we good?"
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Way to bump a year-old troll thread.
(User was banned for this post ("Did not read the OP" - verynicelady))
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I've played CS:S, Garry's Mod, ect. since I was 8 years old. I do have a fascination with guns, but I've got the common sense to not steal a real weapon and go on a shooting spree. I watched movies like Dawn of the Dead and SAW when I was a little kid. It hasn't affected me.
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Blaming TV for violent kids is just another excuse for shitty parenting.
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Video games too.
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guys just watch A Clockwork Orange
It made Alex not violent right? Therefore violence on TV is good.
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Violent people are attracted to violent shows. That's not to say that those violent people will actually beat the shit out of people.
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University of Phillie pulled the video, we need a copy.
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That's Philly to you.
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Of course it makes us violent, who ever said it didn'- oh wait.
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I do believe that younger children should not be exposed to violence until they know the proper way to act, and the violence on tv is something to be enjoyed rather than modeled. When they understand that, they deserve to be allowed to watch violence, with more understanding comes more rights. It should be more based on maturity than age, although that would be hard to scale, so I understand why it is age. It should be up to the parent to actively moniter what the child is playing and make sure it is appropriate for his level of maturity.
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I can't get over one thing in that "study". How is hitting a Bobo doll aggressive? I mean, that doll looks like it's supposed to be hit.
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That's because your 14 and if you tried to rape someone you'd get raped.
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:mad:
2008 nostalgia is nostalgic.
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So for now on, I'll begin to watch Christianity TV.
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That will only make you stupid.
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If I don't see my fix of violence on TV or in games, I'm going to go outside and make violence.
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Except it doesn't make a bit of difference guys - the ratings system is there for a reason.
And the balls are inert.
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In the name of Jesus.
God Bless!
God created man!
God created the Universe.
That's what I'm looking at all day.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STDH14aJVk
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STDH14aJVk
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But then why are games like the GTA series condemned for violence when I can watch the same thing on CSI or Forensics Factor
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At the moment it hasn't. When you're older and you meet people who haven't been exposed to things of that nature you'll see what they've done to you.
