1. Post #1
    Angel's Avatar
    March 2006
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    Some of you probably hate or even despise of Death Metal, saying screaming or growling is not proper vocals, I'd like to address this issue first. Death Metal is a very brutal conceived form of music, the single rumor of brutality alone will disclose the open genre of Death Metal to anyone, which I find is horrible. So, I'd like to introduce some of you to some Death Metal, some without vocals, some with, some without growing, some with... the bands I'd like to use for this thread are;

    Cynic, Death, Suffocation, and Morbid Angel.

    Make sure you give this genre a shot before just posting saying how bad it is, how it makes your un-trained ear bleed, how you can't adjust to such a brutal nature of music. You'll soon find that this isn't just a genre filled with stupid, immature, brutal, bands, however, it's filled with very young, talented, artists.

    I'll go through the bands, for the beginner's ear, I'll show you Cynic.



    Cynic is a progressive metal band founded in Miami, Flordia 1988. Their first album, focus, was released in 1993, it was horrible when directed to the main stream, it's a very unappreciated album with much talent incorporated into it. They soon broke up in 1994, then they got back together in 2006, they're doing shows and recording a new album right now.




    More onto the disbandment, Cynic disbanded during the fall of 1994 while working on their second studio album, the members went on different paths, Gobel, Masvidal, and Reinert, with Chris Kringel and vocalist Aruna Abrams, formed a very short lived band named Portal. Currently Masvidal and Reinert preform in the band Ĉon Spoke, and Kringel has also played with them, touring in the UK. The members were slowly loosely reunited on Gordian Knot's second album, emergent.

    Traced in air is a very fine example for beginner's ear, so that's the album I'll use for presentation, however here's the selection for both of their albums.

    FOCUS


    * All music written by Cynic, all lyrics by Paul Masvidal.

    1. "Veil of Maya" – 5:21
    2. "Celestial Voyage" – 3:37
    3. "The Eagle Nature" – 3:28
    4. "Sentiment" – 4:24
    5. "I'm But a Wave To..." – 5:28
    6. "Uroboric Forms" – 3:30
    7. "Textures" – 4:40
    8. "How Could I" – 5:28
    9. "Veil of Maya (2004 Remix)" – 5:22
    10. "I'm But a Wave To... (2004 Remix)" – 5:21
    11. "How Could I (2004 Remix)" – 6:20
    12. Portal: "Cosmos" – 4:21
    13. Portal: "The Circle's Gone" – 5:20
    14. Portal: "Endless Endeavors" – 9:56



    TRACED IN AIR


    1. "Nunc Fluens" – 2:56
    2. "The Space for This" – 5:46
    3. "Evolutionary Sleeper" – 3:35
    4. "Integral Birth" – 3:53
    5. "The Unknown Guest" – 4:13
    6. "Adam's Murmur" – 3:29
    7. "King of Those Who Know" – 6:09
    8. "Nunc Stans" – 4:13


    Song Selection ( Please listen to these before posting. )

    All songs from Cynic's Traced in Air.

    That was Cynic, what did you think so far? Give a moment to contribute a post! If you feel that this genre is not for you, try to continue with the entire thread.


    Now, let's try something a little more into the genre, something a little more brutal, yet still containing so much inspirational content. Ladies and gentleman, here is... Death.




    Founded in 1983 by Chuck Schuldiner, Death were recognized as the early pioneers or creators of death metal, the other pioneers would be 'Possessed(California)' In the late 80s, they were both part of an integral in defining the death metal feel, look, and smell... They gained recognition with a release of numerous albums and having concerts in numerous areas around the U.S.



    Kam Lee, Rick Rozz, and Schuldiner started to create songs that were released on several rehearsal tapes in 1984, these tapes along with Death circulated through the tape trading world, quickly establishing the band's name across the world. Schuldiner dissolved Mantas and quickly started a new band under the name Death, Mantas was the first band they had started. They released a demo named Reign of Terror, and ever since then, they've became the establishers of a almost unknown genre.

    Human is their best album in my opinion, so that's the album I'll use for the song presentation.

    HUMAN


    1. "Flattening of Emotions" – 4:28
    2. "Suicide Machine" – 4:19
    3. "Together as One" – 4:06
    4. "Secret Face" – 4:36
    5. "Lack of Comprehension" – 3:39
    6. "See Through Dreams" – 4:26
    7. "Cosmic Sea (Instrumental)" – 4:23
    8. "Vacant Planets" – 3:48
    9. "God of Thunder" – 3:56 (KISS cover, Japan only bonus track)[3]


    INDIVIDUAL THOUGHT PATTERNS


    1. "Overactive Imagination" – 3:28
    2. "In Human Form" – 3:55
    3. "Jealousy" – 3:39
    4. "Trapped in a Corner" – 4:11
    5. "Nothing Is Everything" – 3:16
    6. "Mentally Blind" – 4:45
    7. "Individual Thought Patterns" – 4:00
    8. "Destiny" – 4:04
    9. "Out of Touch" – 4:19
    10. "The Philosopher" – 4:10








    Suffocation recorded the albums Human Waste, Effigy of the Forgotten, Breeding the Spawn, Pierced from Within, and Despise the Sun before breaking up in 1998. Suffocation reunited in 2002, featuring the return of original drummer Mike Smith, though without long-time members Doug Cerrito and Chris Richards. The band released Souls to Deny in 2004 and launched an extensive global touring campaign to promote the album.



    After over 200 shows, the band recorded and self-released their first live CD, Close Of A Chapter: Live In Quebec City. A self-titled album was released in 2006 through Relapse Records, which again saw the launch of an extensive worldwide touring jaunt--they even managed to get featured in an advertisement for the History Channel's program The Dark Ages in 2007. They are currently compiling material for a live DVD, although the release has been delayed due to the theft of video footage, and because they were waiting for their contract with Relapse Records to run out...


    Anyhow, here's the song selection.

    PIERCED FROM WITHIN


    1. "Pierced from Within" – 4:26
    2. "Thrones of Blood" – 5:14
    3. "Depths of Depravity" – 5:33
    4. "Suspended in Tribulation" – 6:31
    5. "Torn into Enthrallment" – 5:25
    6. "The Invoking" – 4:36
    7. "Synthetically Revived" – 3:53
    8. "Brood of Hatred" – 4:36
    9. "Breeding the Spawn" – 5:09


    BREEDING THE SPAWN

    1. "Beginning of Sorrow" – 4:17
    2. "Breeding the Spawn" – 4:47
    3. "Epitaph of the Credulous" – 3:45
    4. "Marital Decimation" – 4:06
    5. "Prelude to Repulsion" – 4:50
    6. "Anomalistic Offerings" – 4:41
    7. "Ornaments of Decrepancy" – 4:42
    8. "Ignorant Deprivation" – 4:50





    Morbid Angel is an American death metal band based in Tampa, Florida. They, along with Death, Possessed, Obituary, Massacre, Deicide, Cannibal Corpse, and a handful of others were crucial in the development of the death metal genre and its standards, separating it from the thrash metal genre completely. UK music magazine Terrorizer ranked two Morbid Angel albums in its "Top 40 Greatest Death Metal Albums," with Altars of Madness appearing at number 1. Decibel Magazine also rated guitarist Trey Azagthoth as the number 1 "Death Metal Guitarist Ever".



    The band's songs are complex in arrangement, owing to the considerable technical skills of both Azagthoth and drummer Pete Sandoval (who also played in the grindcore/death metal band Terrorizer). Morbid Angel is the third best-selling death metal band with sales over 445,147 in the United States alone and releasing the best-selling death metal album of all time, Covenant, with sales over 127,154


    ALTARS OF MADNESS


    1. "Immortal Rites" (Azagthoth, Vincent) – 4:04
    2. "Suffocation" (Vincent & Azagthoth, Vincent) – 3:15
    3. "Visions from the Dark Side" (Azagthoth & Vincent, Vincent) – 4:10
    4. "Maze of Torment" (Azagthoth, Vincent) – 4:25
    5. "Lord of All Fevers and Plagues" (Extra Track) (Azagthoth) – 3:28
    6. "Chapel of Ghouls" (Azagthoth, Azagthoth & Browning) – 4:58
    7. "Bleed for the Devil" (Azagthoth) – 2:23
    8. "Damnation" (Azagthoth & Vincent, Vincent) – 4:10
    9. "Blasphemy" (Azagthoth) – 3:31
    10. "Evil Spells" (Azagthoth) – 4:13
    11. "Maze of Torment" (remix) [Remaster bonus track] – 4:27
    12. "Chapel of Ghouls" (remix) [Remaster bonus track] – 4:59
    13. "Blasphemy" (remix) [Remaster bonus track] – 3:21



    Hope you enjoyed it.


    FAQ:

    Isn't Death Metal about satanic, gore, ugly lyrics?: I'll admit, many Death Metal bands start off with gore or satanic lyrics, but you'll find that many other bands focus on a different aspect. Death started off with gore lyrics, but after their first album, they moved into a different direction, Chuck once said that he wishes he picked a different name besides Death, but he never changed it due to that being the original name... So, no, Death Metal is averagely not about gore or satanic lyrics, more mainstream though... it is. Cannibal Corpse... etc... Bloodbath, those will mainly focus on the brutal aspect, even on it's lyrics. Where as Death would focus less on the brutality on their lyrics, for example... See Through Dreams by Death - Human- was a song that explained Chuck's passion for his dreams.



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    Update:

    Added New Death Song - The Philosopher
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  2. Post #2
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    Kazumi's Avatar
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    Great thread. I absolutely loved it!
    I'm going to keep an eye out for Cynic. Never listened to them before.
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    Cool thread. I'm really diggin' Cynic.

  4. Post #4
    whitespace's Avatar
    November 2008
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    Needs some Nile, Cannibal Corpse and others.

    Haven't heard of Cynic before, definitely going to check them out

  5. Post #5
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    Kamikaze's Avatar
    February 2005
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    DEATH and MORBID ANGEL!
    Yes.

  6. Post #6
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    Cynic's new album isn't the least Death Metal imo. But i still love it!

    Cynic's best song imo:


  7. Post #7
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    Melodic Death Metal is what I like :D
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    Why the hell have I never listened to Death before, those three songs all ruled.

  9. Post #9
    XcoliahX's Avatar
    February 2007
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    OP forgot Devourment or Bloodbath as the absolutely hardest death metal around

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    Bloodbath are awesome but they're not the heaviest
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  11. Post #11
    ansam's Avatar
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    Throw in some Gorguts, Adramelech, Psycroptic, Origin, and Obituary and you have yourself a win.

    edit: also Decrepit Birth and Excommunion.

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    May 2008
    237 Posts
    Needs more True Primal Caveman Death Metal


  13. Post #13
    Visage's Avatar
    January 2008
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    Great thread, I love Death.

  14. Post #14
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    HUMAN AT SIGHT

    MONSTER AT HEART

    DON'T LET IT INSIDE IT'LL TEAR YOU RIGHT APPAAARRRTTT

    dunnnn

    dunnnn,

    dun, dun dah dahhhh

    SPIRIT

    CRUSHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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  15. Post #15
    tannzwut's Avatar
    March 2008
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    I like Cynic, but I find most death metal to be pretty boring. I like grindcore though.

  16. Post #16
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    Needs more Napalm Death and Repulsion.



  17. Post #17
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    February 2005
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    Also more Malevolent Creation!


  18. Post #18
    Angel's Avatar
    March 2006
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    Cynic's new album isn't the least Death Metal imo. But i still love it!

    Cynic's best song imo:

    Yeah, I tried to focus on Traced in Air since it's more progressive than anything, but still contains elements of death metal... like the growls for example, the blast beats.

    Anyhow, I forgot to add the Morbid Angel tag and Suffocation videos.

    Anyhow, I don't want to add cannibal corpse specifically just because they're mainstream, I know it sound stupid, but I believe the early 80s and late 90s are the most genuine of death metal, feel free to post some videos though.

  19. Post #19
    ansam's Avatar
    October 2008
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    Anyhow, I don't want to add cannibal corpse specifically just because they're mainstream, I know it sound stupid, but I believe the early 80s and late 90s are the most genuine of death metal, feel free to post some videos though.
    Cannibal Corpse were around in the late 90's...

  20. Post #20
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    Anyhow, I don't want to add cannibal corpse specifically just because they're mainstream, I know it sound stupid, but I believe the early 80s and late 90s are the most genuine of death metal, feel free to post some videos though.
    Cannibal Corpse formed in 1988, and have played throughout the 90's.

  21. Post #21
    Angel's Avatar
    March 2006
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    Cannibal Corpse formed in 1988, and have played throughout the 90's.
    They have? My mistake then.

    I've always assumed they've started in the late 90s.

  22. Post #22
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    February 2009
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    Cannibal Corpse is mainstream?
    When the fuck did that happen?

  23. Post #23
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    Mainstream for death metal i guess.

  24. Post #24
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    Well non-metal listeners always seem to see CC as the be all and end all of death metal anyway.

  25. Post #25
    Angel's Avatar
    March 2006
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    Cannibal Corpse is mainstream?
    When the fuck did that happen?
    It's very debatable if it's mainstream, so I'll keep it to my own opinion, anyhow, even if they were mainstream in my perspective, they haven't sold out. Just never been a fan I guess.

  26. Post #26
    C3 MOY71KO's Avatar
    February 2009
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    There's a difference between being mainstream and selling out.
    But yeah, put Nile in the OP, shows how varying death metal is.

  27. Post #27
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    Awesome thread!

  28. Post #28
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    The only Death Metal I've ever really liked is Opeth, but this stuff isn't half bad!

  29. Post #29
    Angel's Avatar
    March 2006
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    The only Death Metal I've ever really liked is Opeth, but this stuff isn't half bad!
    I didn't know Opeth was death metal, it always sounded like progressive heavy metal.

  30. Post #30
    ansam's Avatar
    October 2008
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    Opeth are more like progressive metal...but you can say they're death metal, too.

  31. Post #31
    Bemani573's Avatar
    January 2009
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    Kamikaze posted:
    Napalm Death
    Protip: ND is grindcore.

    Also, needs moar Behemoth/old Cradle of Filth/Rompeprop (yes, I know the last one is goregrind/pornogrind, but since nobody on FP seems to have ever heard of those genres it could probably pass as brutal death metal...)

  32. Post #32
    Angel's Avatar
    March 2006
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    Protip: ND is grindcore.

    Also, needs moar Behemoth/old Cradle of Filth/Rompeprop (yes, I know the last one is goregrind/pornogrind, but since nobody on FP seems to have ever heard of those genres it could probably pass as brutal death metal...)
    I've heard of gore grind, but porno grind?

  33. Post #33
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    The newer Napalm Death is a Grindcore/Death Metal mix. Also Pornogrind is what it sounds like.

    But seriously add Nile also any newer Behemoth would be good.

  34. Post #34
    ansam's Avatar
    October 2008
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    I've heard of gore grind, but porno grind?
    Maybe you've heard some pornogrind bands? XXX Maniak, Cock And Ball Torture, JIG-AI?

  35. Post #35
    Angel's Avatar
    March 2006
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    Maybe you've heard some pornogrind bands? XXX Maniak, Cock And Ball Torture, JIG-AI?
    Doesn't sound like the thing for me, I haven't heard of any of those.

  36. Post #36
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    Protip: ND is grindcore.

    Also, needs moar Behemoth/old Cradle of Filth/Rompeprop (yes, I know the last one is goregrind/pornogrind, but since nobody on FP seems to have ever heard of those genres it could probably pass as brutal death metal...)
    Cradle of Filth is great.

    YOU STAND BEFORE THIS COURT ACCUSED OF WITCHCRAFT AND HERESY. HOW DO YOU PLEAD?
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  37. Post #37
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    Cynic are hardly death metal but they're one of my favorite bands. I just saw them live last night with Meshuggah and The Faceless. Best $23 I've ever spent.

  38. Post #38
    Bemani573's Avatar
    January 2009
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    YOU STAND BEFORE THIS COURT ACCUSED OF WITCHCRAFT AND HERESY. HOW DO YOU PLEAD?
    Guilty as charged. >:3

    Also, pornogrind is basically goregrind but with more emphasis on sexual content (see above poster's reccomended bands). Jig-Ai and CBT FTW ^^

  39. Post #39
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    September 2005
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    cannibal corpse is like the first band that comes to your mind when you hear the words "death metal" but they are certainly mainstream!

    also this thread will have maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany trolls

  40. Post #40
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    January 2009
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    Death is the best. They started out as such a primitive, death metal sound, then progressed into what you hear in The Sound of Perseverance. Chuck was amazing.

    I would add Necrophagist and Nile to the list. Epic technical death metal. Nile's members are so talented. Especially Karl and George.