1. Post #81
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    There will always be racism, no matter what, the fight for an equal world will last forever.

  2. Post #82
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    Racism is far from over. It happens everyday and it is still a serious problem.

    Edited:

    There will always be racism, no matter what, the fight for an equal world will last forever.
    The way inter-group conflict creates in-group unity is probably the main reason things similar to racism will last forever, maybe not racism specifically.

  3. Post #83
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    If I had a private pool club I'd discriminate against the retarded and handicapped. I don't want drool and shit in my pool.

  4. Post #84
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    If I had a private pool club I'd discriminate against the retarded and handicapped. I don't want drool and shit in my pool.
    Yeah, then you'd just be left with human filth and urine.

  5. Post #85
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    If I had a private pool club I'd discriminate against the retarded and handicapped. I don't want drool and shit in my pool.
    Hell since when do the retarded and handicapped swim

    I'd be more concerned about dead bodies floating in my pool

  6. Post #86
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    Re-startin' the race wars.

  7. Post #87
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    As wrong as it is, it is a private pool. The owners can technically do whatever they want on their private pool as long as they don't break any laws.

  8. Post #88
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    What the fuck is the problem? No one brings thier wallets or pocketbooks to the pool.

  9. Post #89
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    December 2008
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    Well... the boy scouts don't allow gays in their private club either.
    I see no problem, it's private let them do whatever they want in their club.

  10. Post #90
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    ITT Shugo589 pretends to be a lawyer on the internet

  11. Post #91
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    Humanity loses a couple points.

  12. Post #92
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    There will always be racism, no matter what, the fight for an equal world will last forever.
    I agree with that.

    For some reason, your post reminded me of this picture:



  13. Post #93
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    Oh don't bring your furry shit into this thread.

  14. Post #94
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    Furries... the new blacks?

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  17. Post #97
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    Well... the boy scouts don't allow gays in their private club either.
    I see no problem, it's private let them do whatever they want in their club.
    but they said they were an open membership club. OPEN. AS IN ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CAN GET IN.

    and then there's the fact that they were kicked out AFTER they joined and went in the pool.

  18. Post #98
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    They PAID FOR THE POOL! They were ALLOWED TO PAY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    It's not like the pool openly says, "NO NIGGURZZZ ALOWRED!!!". They have just as much the right.
    They were going to refund the money.
    Those kids have no right to go to the pool even though they paid for it.
    There was presumably no contract, and being a private community, this is completely warranted.

  19. Post #99
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    This is the shit that takes you to Supreme Court. Inflictions with anything on the Bill of Rights. And from what I remember, I'm pretty sure that the Bill of Rights states that all men, women, and children are to be treated equally.

  20. Post #100
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    This is the shit that takes you to Supreme Court. Inflictions with anything on the Bill of Rights. And from what I remember, I'm pretty sure that the Bill of Rights states that all men, women, and children are to be treated equally.
    That doesn't apply to citizens, this applies to the functions of government.
    It depends on the character of the person to give someone an equal opportunity.

  21. Post #101
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    this is completely warranted.
    I don't think that word means what you think it does

    I hope

  22. Post #102
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    The Valley Club
    2009 Rules of Operation
    (7) Only one person allowed on the diving board at a time.
    (8) No glass of any kind is allowed on the club grounds.
    (9) Floating devices not secured to the swimmer are prohibited except at specific times.
    (10) Swimming under the diving board is strictly forbidden.
    (11) The pool apron must be kept free of blankets, towels, clothing, chairs, strollers, etc…
    (12) The baby pool and nearby play area are for children under 7 years of age.
    (13) Baby swim diapers must be worn in the baby pool.
    (14) Children not toilet trained may not use the large pool.
    (15) No guard is on duty for the baby pool. Parents are responsible.
    (16) Smoking, eating, drinking, and gum chewing is not permitted on the pool apron or in the pool. Smoking is permitted in designated areas only.
    (17) Each member is responsible for keeping the grounds clean.
    (18) Please do not attempt to intimidate the pool employees in the performance of their duties.
    (19) Pool managers and lifeguards are responsible for enforcing the above rules and regulations.
    GENERAL
    (1) Types of Membership: FULL-SEASON=entitles members to access club every day we are open. WEEKENDS=entitles members to access club on Fri, Saturdays,& Sundays WEEKDAYS=entitles members to access club Mondays thru Thursdays
    ALL WELCOME ON HOLIDAYS!
    (2) Membership cards must be presented upon request to obtain entrance to the club. Please be prepared to show a driver’s license with your membership card.
    (3) Pets are not permitted on club grounds
    (4) Persons under the influence of intoxicants will be denied admission to the club.
    (5) Possession and/or the use of alcoholic beverages are strictly prohibited. The club is not responsible for the loss or damage to personal property.
    (6) Any member (or guest) deliberately destroying or damaging pool property will be subject to financial reimbursement for the damages and disciplinary action in violating the by-laws.
    (7) Loading and unloading of vehicles will be permitted at the upper level, but all members and guest vehicles must be returned to the paved parking lot located at the club entrance.
    (8) Picnic tables must not be placed anywhere other than the picnic area, nor may they be reserved. A limited number of picnic tables may be reserved by the Club Manager for pre-registered member parties during the week.
    (9) Cooking must be confined to the areas designated for this purpose.
    (10) Tables on the patio next to the snack bar are to be used only for eating food purchased at the snack bar.
    (11) Water Volleyball Schedule
    Saturdays/Sundays
    2:00 to 2:30 pm and 4:00 to 4:30 pm
    (12) Adult Lap Swim Schedule
    Everyday
    11:30 am to 12:30 pm; 2:30 to 2:50 pm; 4:30 to 4:50 pm; 5:30 to 6:00 pm
    (13) The shallow end of the pool will remain open to the full membership during these lap swims.
    POOL HOURS
    (1) The gate to the pool will be open from 11:30 am until 8:30 pm, weather permitting.
    (2) If there is inclement weather forecast for the day, please call the club answering machine to find out if the club is open or not.
    (3) During Our Swim Lessons (Mondays thru Thursdays), the shallow end of the pool will open at 12:30 pm to accommodate swim lessons.
    These rules are for the benefit of all club members and must be obeyed at all times. Members are responsible for their children and guests, in compliance with club rules. It is the responsibility of each member to inform guest of pool rules. Infractions may result in temporary loss of club privileges or loss of membership. Please help by respecting and obeying the rules. Situations arising that are not specifically covered by the established rules will be resolved by the manager or the Board of Directors at anytime.
    HEALTH AND SAFETY
    (1) All members use the club facilities at their own risk.
    (2) Children under the age of 13 must be accompanied at all times by an adult member (17 years or older).
    (3) All children under the age of 13 must pass a swimming test to be permitted in the deep end without an adult.
    (4) Use of the pool will be refused to anyone wearing bandages or having skin abrasions, colds, coughs, inflamed eyes, skin infections, etc…
    (5) All bathers must shower before entering the pool.
    (6) Running is not permitted on the pool apron.
    GUEST REGULATIONS
    (1) All guests must be accompanied by the sponsoring member upon entering the club grounds. Members must remain with their guests. You may not bring guests into the club and leave the grounds.
    (2)The club strongly urges the use of pre-paid guest cards. These cards may be purchased pre-season with dues. They may also be purchased through the pool manager.
    (3) Guest Rates:
    Adults $10.00
    Children (under 17) $5.00
    Guest Rates After 6:00 pm
    Adults $5.00 Children (under 17) $2.00
    (4) We invite you to have your family birthday or other parties at our club (including summer company picnic). Our Party Rate for 2009 Members will be $7 per person. For non-members it is $10 per person. For parties, our grounds are open to members and non-members, alike. Parties must pre-register with the pool manager to reserve enough tables/space.
    I don't see anything that says no blacks. The least these racist fucks could do is put it in their rules so they don't waste anyone's time.

  23. Post #103
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    I like how people in here are basically saying that it's alright to discriminate. it makes me realize that I'm slowly turning into one of those cynics who's slowly losing faith in humanity.

    here are the arguments for the club's discrimination:

    it's private property, they can do whatever they want.

    here's the arguments against:

    the people already signed up, paid, and were just beginning to go in before being kicked out.
    the club advertises itself as an open membership club, which means yes, Virginia, blacky IS allowed to go in the pool with whitey!

  24. Post #104
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    February 2005
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    everyone saying it's their right to deny service because it's a private club would probably also say that a restaurant can deny service because it's a private business, or that real estate companies can deny people homes because they're a private business

    basically this sort of bullshit 1950's rationalization needs to be done away with; private organizations are not above the law

  25. Post #105
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    June 2009
    464 Posts
    STOP DEFENDING THIS

    I know you want to be edgy and contrarian, but no one gives a damn about the minutiae of legal code regarding black people and swimming pools. Who gives a shit if it's legal, can't you just not try and be the edgy one for once and just say "hey this is a bad thing"?

    can't we fucking agree that kicking black people out of pools for being black is a bad goddamn thing without someone coming in and saying "well it's theyre right too a hurrr hur uhrr"
    PRIVATE, PRIVATE POOL! There's no reason they can't discriminate who and who doesn't enter the pool. Also they didn't (at least they didn't confess) say it was because they were black.

    More subtle racism is being committed EVERYWHERE. Everybody everywhere makes judgments based on race. at job interviews, walking past someone on the street. Everywhere.

    Edited:

    I don't think that word means what you think it does

    I hope
    :smug:

  26. Post #106
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    PRIVATE, PRIVATE POOL! There's no reason they can't discriminate who and who doesn't enter the pool. Also they didn't (at least they didn't confess) say it was because they were black
    1. yes, there is a reason they can't discriminate: because discrimination (at least, racial discrimination) is one of the last things a successful business or club wants ton be hit with when they advertise themselves as an open membership club. dear GOD! how many times must I repeat this before it registers in your thick skulls?

    2. of course they didn't say it was because they were black, because they didn't want to look bad in front of potential club members. WHOOPS! TOO LATE!

  27. Post #107
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    PRIVATE, PRIVATE POOL! There's no reason they can't discriminate who and who doesn't enter the pool. Also they didn't (at least they didn't confess) say it was because they were black.

    More subtle racism is being committed EVERYWHERE. Everybody everywhere makes judgments based on race. at job interviews, walking past someone on the street. Everywhere.

    Edited:



    :smug:
    "There was concern that a lot of kids would change the complexion … and the atmosphere of the club," John Duesler, President of The Valley Swim Club said in a statement.

    Horace Gibson, parent of a day camp child, wrote in an email. "The pool attendants came and told the black children that they did not allow minorities in the club and needed the children to leave immediately."

    Edited:

    Is the YMCA a business? Are Freemason lodges businesses?

  28. Post #108
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    I think a black guy should apply for a job there.

  29. Post #109
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    I think a black guy should apply for a job there.
    That would be win.

  30. Post #110
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    Oh hey, it says "ALL WELCOME ON HOLIDAYS!"

    They should find some obscure holiday and mob the pool that day.

  31. Post #111
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    I thought it was against the law for even private organizations to discriminate?

  32. Post #112
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    May 2009
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    Furries... the new blacks?
    Although it's just a fetish when someone just jacks off to some porn that someone else doesn't like to watch, those fursuit fucktards have something wrong with them.

  33. Post #113
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    February 2008
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    That's quite a large blacklist.

  34. Post #114
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    April 2006
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    They had their swim things and everything

  35. Post #115
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    And? It shouldn't be legal to discriminate people like this. Just because it is doesn't make it right.
    It's legal in the U.S., even if certain things contradict eachother. It's wrong for them not to allow Minorities, but it's their choice, and we can't do shit about it.

  36. Post #116
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    I don't think that word means what you think it does

    I hope
    I'm absolutely sure I have it right.

    The Free Dictionary posted:
    r.v. war·rant·ed, war·rant·ing, war·rants
    1. To guarantee or attest to the quality, accuracy, or condition of.
    2. To guarantee or attest to the character or reliability of; vouch for.
    3.
    a. To guarantee (a product).
    b. To guarantee (a purchaser) indemnification against damage or loss.
    4. To guarantee the immunity or security of.
    5. To provide adequate grounds for; justify. See Synonyms at justify.
    6. To grant authorization or sanction to (someone); authorize or empower.
    7. Law To guarantee clear title to (real property).
    Edited:

    everyone saying it's their right to deny service because it's a private club would probably also say that a restaurant can deny service because it's a private business, or that real estate companies can deny people homes because they're a private business

    basically this sort of bullshit 1950's rationalization needs to be done away with; private organizations are not above the law
    You're an advocate of lunacy and bunk policy.
    Tolerance is not a mandate for all society.
    To force someone to accept someone into a private community is a heinous crime.
    These people pay for a pleasant experience at their local pool.
    60 black, Philadelphian campers barge in.
    I see that as being a bit intrusive and disruptive to the community.
    The organization has all the right to kick them out.
    They're not part of the government, where service to the general public is paramount.
    The organization was going to refund the money, no harm is done.
    They can deny service to anyone.

  37. Post #117
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    January 2009
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    Another victim of the hackers on steroids.

  38. Post #118
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    STOP DEFENDING THIS

    I know you want to be edgy and contrarian, but no one gives a damn about the minutiae of legal code regarding black people and swimming pools. Who gives a shit if it's legal, can't you just not try and be the edgy one for once and just say "hey this is a bad thing"?

    can't we fucking agree that kicking black people out of pools for being black is a bad goddamn thing without someone coming in and saying "well it's theyre right too a hurrr hur uhrr"
    You're being a contrarian.
    I don't want a bunch of inner-city kids in my private pool club.
    The members of that club are most likely against the humongous group of 60 kids flooding in, too.
    Why is this a bad thing?
    Because the owners of a private club were keeping order and preventing conflict?

  39. Post #119
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    You're being a contrarian.
    I don't want a bunch of inner-city kids in my private pool club.
    The members of that club are most likely against the humongous group of 60 kids flooding in, too.
    Why is this a bad thing?
    Because the owners of a private club were keeping order and preventing conflict?
    Why would you assume the black kid is always from from the inner city?

  40. Post #120
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    You're being a contrarian.
    I don't want a bunch of inner-city kids in my private pool club.
    The members of that club are most likely against the humongous group of 60 kids flooding in, too.
    Why is this a bad thing?
    Because the owners of a private club were keeping order and preventing conflict?
    referring to the bold, if you read the fucking article, you'd know that it wasn't because of the size of the group that made them kick the kids out. it was because they were black! One woman said "what are these black kids doing here? I don't want them to hurt my child!" the camp counselors were told that the club didn't allow minorities.

    referring to the italics... I never saw anything referring to them as from an inner-city area. are you saying this because they're black? are you saying that the owners wanted to prevent disorder caused by them because they MAY have come from an inner city district?

    Ah! I get it now! you're a big, fat, BIGOT! :dogout: