1. Post #1
    Subby's Avatar
    October 2008
    471 Posts
    how would i go about installing windows XP sp3 from CD to a 4gb usb stick

  2. Post #2
    pl0xinat0r's Avatar
    August 2008
    3,361 Posts
    you cant install XP onto a USB stick, you can put the install disk onto a USB stick though.

    Or, you could always plug it in and select it as the drive for installation, and hope that XP installs.

  3. Post #3
    someguyihate's Avatar
    July 2008
    905 Posts
    You can't.
    It won't even let you try install.

  4. Post #4
    Facepunch iSeries!
    rieda1589's Avatar
    November 2007
    4,199 Posts
    You can install from a USB stick, but you can't install to one.

  5. Post #5
    Subby's Avatar
    October 2008
    471 Posts
    You can't.
    It won't even let you try install.
    it let me install but it said something when booting like disk error

  6. Post #6
    pl0xinat0r's Avatar
    August 2008
    3,361 Posts
    yeh, as i said, it wont work.

  7. Post #7
    Subby's Avatar
    October 2008
    471 Posts
    hmm i found some stuff on it its a bit complicated though http://www.ngine.de/index.jsp?pageid=4176

  8. Post #8
    ReznorT's Avatar
    November 2008
    1,165 Posts
    Linux can

    Edited:

    Windows cannot

  9. Post #9
    Subby's Avatar
    October 2008
    471 Posts
    Linux is gay *starts war*

  10. Post #10
    ReznorT's Avatar
    November 2008
    1,165 Posts
    Linux is gay *starts war*
    Linux is running 66% of your digital world, so either act like a dumbass or shut the hell up

    Edited:

    Linux is great when you know how to use it

  11. Post #11
    seanm07's Avatar
    May 2007
    372 Posts
    Linux is running 66% of your digital world, so either act like a dumbass or shut the hell up

    Edited:

    Linux is great when you know how to use it
    I doubt 66%
    Most businesses use windows, as well as the rest.

  12. Post #12
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    toxicpiano's Avatar
    August 2006
    27,386 Posts
    I doubt 66%
    Most businesses use windows, as well as the rest.
    I think he's probably talking about servers

  13. Post #13
    ReznorT's Avatar
    November 2008
    1,165 Posts
    I doubt 66%
    Most businesses use windows, as well as the rest.
    Most Servers use Linux, boy.

    Get your statstics right

    Edited:

    Of course they're are things like domain controllers which generally is best suited for Windows Server

    But for things like google or facepunch or even youtube, it's all Linux

  14. Post #14
    seanm07's Avatar
    May 2007
    372 Posts
    Most Servers use Linux, boy.

    Get your statstics right

    Edited:

    Of course they're are things like domain controllers which generally is best suited for Windows Server

    But for things like google or facepunch or even youtube, it's all Linux
    Yes I know most servers use linux because linux is awesome for that, but you said 66% of the digital world which cannot be right at all.

  15. Post #15
    ReznorT's Avatar
    November 2008
    1,165 Posts
    Yes I know most servers use linux because linux is awesome for that, but you said 66% of the digital world which cannot be right at all.
    I'm talking websites, databases, proxies, etc, not Buisness level apparatus

  16. Post #16
    seanm07's Avatar
    May 2007
    372 Posts
    I'm talking websites, databases, proxies, etc, not Buisness level apparatus
    Ok so businesses aren't part of the digital world -.-

  17. Post #17
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    Dr Egg's Avatar
    November 2006
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    I've seen a version of XP that runs from a flash drive on the FP Wuala group, so it is clearly possible.

    Also:

    Linux is running 66% of your digital world, so either act like a dumbass or shut the hell up
    That's really a moot point, because Linux tends to be used in places where you don't care what it is running. Linux has it's uses, but it's mainly in places where you don't want to hear about it.

  18. Post #18
    ReznorT's Avatar
    November 2008
    1,165 Posts
    I've seen a version of XP that runs from a flash drive on the FP Wuala group, so it is clearly possible.

    Also:



    That's really a moot point, because Linux tends to be used in places where you don't care what it is running. Linux has it's uses, but it's mainly in places where you don't want to hear about it.
    Yeah.

    There is a way of doing it but it's really just pointless

    You're better off installing on an external HDD

    And linux.

    It has it's uses, mainly dodging the high costs involved in licensing a Windows Server box

  19. Post #19
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    gparent's Avatar
    January 2005
    3,928 Posts
    But for things like google or facepunch or even youtube, it's all Linux
    Facepunch is actually Windows since Garry has some sort of stubborn hate for Linux.
    That's really a moot point, because Linux tends to be used in places where you don't care what it is running. Linux has it's uses, but it's mainly in places where you don't want to hear about it.
    A better way of phrasing it would be that Linux runs the things you care about (Web servers, DHCPs, proxies, FTPs, clusters, ...) while Windows runs the things that don't require stability (end user machines).

  20. Post #20
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    PyroCF's Avatar
    June 2008
    6,851 Posts
    Linux is starting to appear in things such as routers:
    http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduc...odid=NW-112-LS

  21. Post #21
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    Dr Egg's Avatar
    November 2006
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    A better way of phrasing it would be that Linux runs the things you care about (Web servers, DHCPs, proxies, FTPs, clusters, ...) while Windows runs the things that don't require stability (end user machines).
    I was meaning more like for servers you care about uptime and stability, and Linux provides that best and that's why it is used. Not because it is Linux. Also in wee things like routers and fridges and phones and crap. You don't care what it runs, as long as it continues to do so with no fuss, and no intervention on your part.

  22. Post #22
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    danharibo's Avatar
    July 2006
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    Linux is starting to appear in things such as routers:
    http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduc...odid=NW-112-LS
    "starting"? A load of networking equipment runs on linux

  23. Post #23
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    May 2008
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    Facepunch is actually Windows since Garry has some sort of stubborn hate for Linux.
    Which explains why Facepunch has tons of downtime.

    Edited:

    I'm talking websites, databases, proxies, etc, not Buisness level apparatus
    Tons of embedded devices run Linux, like Tivos.

  24. Post #24
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    gparent's Avatar
    January 2005
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    I was meaning more like for servers you care about uptime and stability, and Linux provides that best and that's why it is used. Not because it is Linux.
    That's irrelevant. Of course you don't use Linux because of the name, you use it because it does certain things best.

    But that doesn't change the fact that a dumb terminal is still a dumb terminal, even if you have 60,000,000 of them. They don't run anything even if they're a massive part of the 'digital world'.

  25. Post #25
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    Dr Egg's Avatar
    November 2006
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    That's irrelevant. Of course you don't use Linux because of the name, you use it because it does certain things best.

    But that doesn't change the fact that a dumb terminal is still a dumb terminal, even if you have 60,000,000 of them. They don't run anything even if they're a massive part of the 'digital world'.
    Again, that' not really what I mean, but I'm finding it hard to explain. The best I can think to come up with is you don't want to hear about the server, on the basis it should be running fine. Or something. It's in my head but I can't say it.

  26. Post #26
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    efeX's Avatar
    April 2009
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    Which explains why Facepunch has tons of downtime.

    You love to troll don't you?

  27. Post #27
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    KrAzY_nikomo's Avatar
    October 2006
    1,484 Posts
    This is the Windows section.

  28. Post #28
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    January 2008
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    Linux is gay *starts war*
    did this man just succeed in starting a war?

    Anyway, attempting to re-rail the subject...

    I was looking into something similar earlier today. I ended up not doing it because flash drives send data in bursts (or was it just the USB interface...), and in the time that it isn't sending data, it can't read or write from or to the swap file, causing windows to hang and crash, a hard reset required. You might be able to work it on an external hard drive via firewire or eSATA

  29. Post #29
    Pixel Heart's Avatar
    July 2009
    4,728 Posts
    did this man just succeed in starting a war?
    Yes... It happened a bit like this:


  30. Post #30
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    gparent's Avatar
    January 2005
    3,928 Posts
    Again, that' not really what I mean, but I'm finding it hard to explain. The best I can think to come up with is you don't want to hear about the server, on the basis it should be running fine. Or something. It's in my head but I can't say it.
    I think we're agreeing without knowing. Either way, it doesn't matter :P

  31. Post #31
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    Kirth's Avatar
    July 2009
    313 Posts
    This is semi-possible, actually. I agree: it's easier with Linux (a lót easier). But it's possible with Windows as well. For this, we'd be using Bart's Preinstalled Environment.

    Bart's PE Builder helps you build a "BartPE" (Bart Preinstalled Environment) bootable Windows CD-Rom or DVD from the original Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 installation/setup CD, very suitable for PC maintenance tasks.
    Information about installing BartPE to a USB-Stick can be found here:
    http://www.911cd.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=10806

    Now, then. Please ready your catapults and other combat-contraptions and return to the battle at hand!

  32. Post #32
    ReznorT's Avatar
    November 2008
    1,165 Posts
    Which explains why Facepunch has tons of downtime.
    Edited:



    Tons of embedded devices run Linux, like Tivos.


    Makes sense

  33. Post #33
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    January 2008
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    This is semi-possible, actually. I agree: it's easier with Linux (a lót easier). But it's possible with Windows as well. For this, we'd be using Bart's Preinstalled Environment.



    Information about installing BartPE to a USB-Stick can be found here:
    http://www.911cd.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=10806

    Now, then. Please ready your catapults and other combat-contraptions and return to the battle at hand!
    So BartPE basically tricks Windows into waiting for the swap file to be available? or does it "emulate," for lack of a better term, a windows environment in order to successfully run windows?

    Edited:

    oh never mind, a little bit of reading and it basically disables the flash drive from resetting or something like that.

  34. Post #34
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    birkett's Avatar
    July 2005
    1,290 Posts
    So BartPE basically tricks Windows into waiting for the swap file to be available? or does it "emulate," for lack of a better term, a windows environment in order to successfully run windows?

    Edited:

    oh never mind, a little bit of reading and it basically disables the flash drive from resetting or something like that.
    BartPE creates a bootable slimmed down windows installation. Its akin to WinPE (Check the wikipedia page).

  35. Post #35
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    January 2008
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    BartPE creates a bootable slimmed down windows installation. Its akin to WinPE (Check the wikipedia page).
    Thanks, it makes a lot more sense now.

  36. Post #36
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    Dr Egg's Avatar
    November 2006
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    I think we're agreeing without knowing. Either way, it doesn't matter :P
    Yeah probably

  37. Post #37
    weeman007's Avatar
    December 2005
    392 Posts
    USB sticks don't have a whole lot of write cycles. Installing and running windows would eventually cause the silicon cells to collapse and not be able to hold data from having experienced too many write cycles.

  38. Post #38
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    May 2008
    1,077 Posts
    USB sticks don't have a whole lot of write cycles. Installing and running windows would eventually cause the silicon cells to collapse and not be able to hold data from having experienced too many write cycles.
    Ok, so what about solid state HDDs, they should use the same memory ICs that a USB drive uses right? Some, if not a lot of mp3 players use the same chip. So why would the silicon break down due to X-number of write cycles?

  39. Post #39
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    birkett's Avatar
    July 2005
    1,290 Posts
    Ok, so what about solid state HDDs, they should use the same memory ICs that a USB drive uses right? Some, if not a lot of mp3 players use the same chip. So why would the silicon break down due to X-number of write cycles?
    It's a well known problem with flash memory. Even the Intel X-25 SSD's have issues with it. Wear leveling helps.

  40. Post #40
    Subby's Avatar
    October 2008
    471 Posts
    This is madness THIS IS SPARTA!!!!

    so it is possible to install windows to a usb drive