1. Post #81
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    If you were president and half of your country was seceding you wouldn't try to stop it? You would cut the power of your country in half and have an enemy that disagrees with your country on just two issues (states rights and slavery) right next door?
    I would actually try using diplomacy and politics to try and put them back in the Union. I would try and see why they were seceding and see if I could compromise with them to get them back.

    The CSA wasn't an enemy until Lincoln declared war anyways. They just wanted their freedom.

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    I would actually try using diplomacy and politics to try and put them back in the Union. I would try and see why they were seceding and see if I could compromise with them to get them back.

    The CSA wasn't an enemy until Lincoln declared war anyways. They just wanted their freedom.
    I know this, but slavery isn't really a compromisable debate. They tried the Missouri Compromise but that ended up not working.

    Lincoln wanted to hold the country together. If the South actually did secede and we were not on open trade relations, they would be still developing. At the time all the South really had was agriculture. Lincoln is like the stern parent that punishes you but he's only doing it for your own good.

    (I don't mean to make light of the American casualties of the war by my use of an analogy comparing the Civil war to a parent punishing a child.)

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    Dammit texas!
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    I know this, but slavery isn't really a compromisable debate. They tried the Missouri Compromise but that ended up not working.
    Slavery wasn't the reason they wanted to secede, it was more like a last straw.

  5. Post #85
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    we still haven't met up.
    shut it rj.
    >:|

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    Slavery wasn't the reason they wanted to secede, it was more like a last straw.
    I know, states rights and westward expansion arguments as well.

    They still wanted a confederation, and our country sucked under the articles of confederation, so Lincoln denied them that for their own good.

    No sane person in the South actually wants to secede from the Union for real, they just threaten that to make a point.

    Edited:

    Also by the way, I don't think gay marriage is allowed in Texas guys, it's just one judge who said that.

    Not sure though.

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    Dammit texas!
    Yeah, promoting equality and all that shit! Hm, I should probably go check on my grits before going out back with my cousin/wife to shoot squirrels.
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    They still wanted a confederation, and our country sucked under the articles of confederation, so Lincoln denied them that for their own good.
    No, they wanted representation in the Government that the Union wasn't providing. If we would have actually compromised with them they wouldn't have seceded.

    Edited:

    Yeah, promoting equality and all that shit! Hm, I should probably go check on my grits before going out back with my cousin/wife to shoot squirrels.
    Hey now, don't diss on grits. They are the fucking shit.

  9. Post #89
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    No, they wanted representation in the Government that the Union wasn't providing. If we would have actually compromised with them they wouldn't have seceded.

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    Hey now, don't diss on grits. They are the fucking shit.
    But like I said, it wasn't possible to come to a compromise!

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    But like I said, it wasn't possible to come to a compromise!
    It was though. As it was the South was treated a lot more like a bunch of colonies than a bunch of states. If we would have given them more freedoms and representation in the government, then we wouldn't have had to gone to war.

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    also grits are definitely the shit

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    It was though. As it was the South was treated a lot more like a bunch of colonies than a bunch of states. If we would have given them more freedoms and representation in the government, then we wouldn't have had to gone to war.
    They had the same representation in the North, they were just pissed that their guy didn't win the election. They started to leave even before Lincoln was inaugurated. It's not like our system was any different than it is now, we still had the house and senate for representation.

    They were just pissy and then Lincoln had to deal with it, and his way of dealing with it was a Civil war.

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    also grits are definitely the shit
    I'm not entirely sure as to what grits are! My impression is they're some sort of grain based food rednecks like to eat. What do they taste of?

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    also grits are definitely the shit
    :respek:

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    I'm not entirely sure as to what grits are! My impression is they're some sort of grain based food rednecks like to eat. What do they taste of?
    It's a southern food. It's corn based, similar to porridge.



    Oh god so delicious.
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    I'm not entirely sure as to what grits are! My impression is they're some sort of grain based food rednecks like to eat. What do they taste of?
    they taste pretty good if they're done right but if they're thrown together like shit they'll taste like shit.

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    hey maybe the north and the south could have just shared some grits and beer together and we wouldn't have had the civil war at all

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    They had the same representation in the North, they were just pissed that their guy didn't win the election. They started to leave even before Lincoln was inaugurated. It's not like our system was any different than it is now, we still had the house and senate for representation.

    They were just pissy and then Lincoln had to deal with it, and his way of dealing with it was a Civil war.
    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I personally think Lincoln should have done more to deal with the CSA than just go to war. I'm sure there could have been a peaceful resolution that wouldn't cost thousands of American lives.

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    they taste pretty good if they're done right but if they're thrown together like shit they'll taste like shit.

    Edited:

    hey maybe the north and the south could have just shared some grits and beer together and we wouldn't have had the civil war at all
    You can't forget the fried chicken and okra.

    Southern food is the shit all around.

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    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I personally think Lincoln should have done more to deal with the CSA than just go to war. I'm sure there could have been a peaceful resolution that wouldn't cost thousands of American lives.
    Well yeah you can say this about every war, but at the time it must have seemed like the only option for him. I'm not saying Lincoln was a godsend and all his decisions were right I'm just saying that he did an okay job for all the shit that was happening before he even got into office.

    You can't forget the fried chicken and okra.

    Southern food is the shit all around.
    My dad lived in Louisiana for 5 years hot damn I love that New Orleans food

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    My dad lived in Louisiana for 5 years hot damn I love that New Orleans food
    My dad was stationed in Georgia when he was in the army.

  18. Post #98
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    I'm finally proud to be living in this state for once.
    :hf:

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    My dad was stationed in Georgia when he was in the army.
    I can't even think of an example of Northern food

    I guess all that fancy stuff from New York counts as Northern but it doesn't represent the whole of the North like southern food does.

  20. Post #100
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    California is less liberal than Texas.

    this is fucked

  21. Post #101
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    California is less liberal than Texas.

    this is fucked
    Not true at all

  22. Post #102
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    well gay people can't marry in California

    and Ronald Reagan is from California

    connect da dots
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  23. Post #103
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    I just moved to Texas, and this bill passed.

    I don't know what you're trying to say, Texas, but fuck you.
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  24. Post #104
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    I just moved to Texas, and this bill passed.

    I don't know what you're trying to say, Texas, but fuck you.
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  25. Post #105
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    I just moved to Texas, and this bill passed.

    I don't know what you're trying to say, Texas, but fuck you.
    Explain

  26. Post #106
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    ay yo mods are fags wanna meet somewhere and eat some grits?

  27. Post #107
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    Duh, everyone knows only steers and queers come from Texas.

  28. Post #108
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    Yeah, promoting equality and all that shit! Hm, I should probably go check on my grits before going out back with my cousin/wife to shoot squirrels.
    Yep, someone thinking gay marriage is wrong makes them a redneck.

    Oh wait, I forgot half of facepunch are biased gay atheists, my bad
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  29. Post #109
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    This is only good news because they are parting, same sex marriage is wrong. I love Texas for keeping on the straight path.
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  30. Post #110
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    It's not unconstitutional.
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    Yep, someone thinking gay marriage is wrong makes them a redneck.

    Oh wait, I forgot half of facepunch are biased gay atheists, my bad
    Best post I've seen in a while. I was going to say that actually, but I thought I'd get banned for flaming.


    On-topic, this isn't some "great victory", as I know people won't stand for the ban to be lifted, and Texas will soon re-ammend the ban, and I'm hoping they do to be honest.

    Edited:

    It's not unconstitutional.
    The ban is indeed perfectly legal, and in my opinion is sensible. No where in the Constitution does it say this can't happen.

    Damn it, why won't we (England) make bans like this?
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    Best post I've seen in a while. I was going to say that actually, but I thought I'd get banned for flaming.


    On-topic, this isn't some "great victory", as I know people won't stand for the ban to be lifted, and Texas will soon re-ammend the ban, and I'm hoping they do to be honest.

    Edited:



    The ban is indeed perfectly legal, and in my opinion is sensible. No where in the Constitution does it say this can't happen.

    Damn it, why won't we (England) make bans like this?
    Why don't you want gay marriage?

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    If you are against gay marriage then that's fine, you can have your opinion. But you really don't need to posts things like "fuck you Texas" or "only queers come from Texas" "ooh faggots r stoopid lolz" .
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  34. Post #114
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    Fuck, the spread of gays is overwhelming our defences! Get the flamethrowers!
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  35. Post #115
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    Marriage is a stupid fucking tribal ceremony anyway. Cohabitation and Long term partnerships are the future.

    Woah.. What happened facepunch? Didn't you used to be logical, liberal, and anti-discrimination?
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    Marriage is a stupid fucking tribal ceremony anyway. Cohabitation and Long term partnerships are the future.

    Woah.. What happened facepunch? Didn't you used to be logical, liberal, and anti-discrimination?
    go away please

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    Marriage is a stupid fucking tribal ceremony anyway. Cohabitation and Long term partnerships are the future.

    Woah.. What happened facepunch? Didn't you used to be logical, liberal, and anti-discrimination?
    I'm not liberal but I'm logical and anti-discrimination.

  38. Post #118
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    go away please
    Fuck you. Fuck everything you stand for. You're so fucking comfortable aren't you? Look around you, check your reality for once. Are you analyzing things with logic and total clarity? Or have you been left crippled?

    Are you happy?

  39. Post #119
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    To be honest, send the queers to a island, or alaska, and it will be fine. Calafornia is a nice place, and having them all there isn't right.
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  40. Post #120
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    I guess this is good, kind of.

    Best thing to happen in my state for a while.

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