1. Post #2881
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    Cpn Crunch21's Avatar
    November 2009
    6,591 Posts
    I'm not oblivious, I'm accepting. "It's not great but it's still not shit" is my standing. And most other peoples I would think.
    The reason I'm going to stop watching is because it has lost the reasons why I watched/liked this show. I liked it because of the clever writing, the creative solutions to complex problems and obstacles, and the great character development of everyone involved. I feel like thats all gone, people have become 1 dimensional, Dexter just waltzes his way around people, and dialogue seems awkward and simplified at times (when it comes to Dexter's excuses, totally half assed). Im not really sure what other people see in the show anymore, but my reasons for watching are all gone and I just dont want to watch anymore.
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  2. Post #2882
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    Tyvak's Avatar
    May 2006
    3,697 Posts
    Loved this season, happy to know there's going to be a next one. Definitely didn't see the Gellar twist coming, and I'm liking the new side of Dexter to be honest - I enjoy watching him being a father. The Debra / Dexter thing was a bit awkward but it's definitely interesting to see where it goes, even if I'll feel uncomfortable the whole time.
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  3. Post #2883
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    March 2008
    2,036 Posts
    The reason I'm going to stop watching is because it has lost the reasons why I watched/liked this show. I liked it because of the clever writing, the creative solutions to complex problems and obstacles, and the great character development of everyone involved. I feel like thats all gone, people have become 1 dimensional, Dexter just waltzes his way around people, and dialogue seems awkward and simplified at times (when it comes to Dexter's excuses, totally half assed). Im not really sure what other people see in the show anymore, but my reasons for watching are all gone and I just dont want to watch anymore.
    And that's completely fair, you're making a perfectly rational choice to stop watching the show. But when people like Rusty come in and start questioning people's intelligence for watching the show then that's going a bit far...
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  4. Post #2884
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    Oicani Gonzales's Avatar
    February 2011
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    it's just rusty
    don't care too much about what he says

    about this season, it was enjoyable. not excellent, but not bad either
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  5. Post #2885
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    OutOfExile2's Avatar
    December 2008
    11,192 Posts
    um no it was definitely bad, there were many parts that were incredibly cringeworthy and I felt bored for a lot of it because all the characters are so uninteresting now
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  6. Post #2886
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    September 2005
    63,006 Posts
    it was definitely definitely horrendous there's no two ways to put it
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  7. Post #2887
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    kitthehacker's Avatar
    March 2008
    2,036 Posts
    it's just rusty
    don't care too much about what he says

    about this season, it was enjoyable. not excellent, but not bad either
    I disagree, it was bad, but it wasn't unbearable and was certainly still entertaining.
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  8. Post #2888
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    stealth_camo's Avatar
    February 2005
    1,311 Posts
    rustys pessimism is well founded, the writers have turned dexter into a soap opera

    contemplating not watching the next season as this one was so bad.
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  9. Post #2889
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    jbthekid's Avatar
    July 2011
    9,687 Posts
    So I've only watched one episode of Dexter...ever. I'm assuming it's amazing? Please tell me I'm in for a treat.
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  10. Post #2890
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    December 2008
    11,192 Posts
    Stop after Season 4 and you'll love it
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  11. Post #2891
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    Oicani Gonzales's Avatar
    February 2011
    17,529 Posts
    i consider dexter in 3 parts

    seasons 1-4
    5
    and 6

    great
    why did you do this to me
    i dont have anything better to do anyway

    season 1 - fantastic, this season is on a different level to the rest especially in terms of cinematography, future of the show looks amazing.
    season 2 - still great, first hints of bad subplots. lila is cartoonish, yes, but she's there for a reason

    season 3 - *CIRCLES "BLACK SUV"* took way too long to go anywhere, miguel was interesting but only used well in the last 3 episodes. start of pointless sub-plots that add nothing to the actual show and don't lead anywhere
    season 4 - trinity/dexter (+ rita) stuff good, everything else bad

    season 5 - literally pointless, didn't add anything to dexters character at all, rowboatcop character was amusing but it's completely forgetable
    season 6 - has the shows worse villain, had the shows worst episode (nebraska) that somehow managed to ruin a character from 5 seasons ago and also showed whats wrong with how the character of dexter is now. dumb writing, incredibly insulting to the viewer

    i only consider season 1 and 2 to be actually be great overall, all the other seasons just had hints of greatness, those being the last 3 eps of season 3, trinity stuff in 4, first episode of season 5, nothing in season 6 really
    i actually agree with this

    i really liked trinity
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  12. Post #2892
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    July 2007
    7,701 Posts
    season 1 - fantastic, this season is on a different level to the rest especially in terms of cinematography, future of the show looks amazing.
    season 2 - still great, first hints of bad subplots. lila is cartoonish, yes, but she's there for a reason

    season 3 - *CIRCLES "BLACK SUV"* took way too long to go anywhere, miguel was interesting but only used well in the last 3 episodes. start of pointless sub-plots that add nothing to the actual show and don't lead anywhere
    season 4 - trinity/dexter (+ rita) stuff good, everything else bad

    season 5 - literally pointless, didn't add anything to dexters character at all, rowboatcop character was amusing but it's completely forgetable
    season 6 - has the shows worse villain, had the shows worst episode (nebraska) that somehow managed to ruin a character from 5 seasons ago and also showed whats wrong with how the character of dexter is now. dumb writing, incredibly insulting to the viewer

    i only consider season 1 and 2 to be actually be great overall, all the other seasons just had hints of greatness, those being the last 3 eps of season 3, trinity stuff in 4, first episode of season 5, nothing in season 6 really

    Edited:

    i also loved season 1 because dexter made me feel uncomfortable (in a good way, not in a cringe-y incest-y bad writing way)

    Dexter was a cold, calculated, sociopathic serial killer, he didn't kill people because they were bad, he killed people because he liked and had the urge to kill people. Him having a code was all harrys doing and a way to fool himself into thinking the feelings he has when he kills people are a form of justice. A big part of why the miami police department seem to be so shitty at what they do is because Dexter withheld a lot of information on the people he killed. oh.. and the fact that he keeps trophies of the people he kills, i don't think a person killing purely for justice would do that. you weren't supposed to feel that he was 100% right doing what he was doing

    but.. now he's just a nice sitcom style single dad who you're supposed to love and when he kills people it's like "go dexter!! this 30 second outburst from this character shows that they need to be killed!!", there's no stalking or planning or showing his need to kill. he's just a guy who kills people on the spur of the moment because they're basically shouting "I'M A BAD PERSON, KILL ME!!" in his face.
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  13. Post #2893
    Armyis1337's Avatar
    October 2009
    2,726 Posts
    Dexter was a cold, calculated, sociopathic serial killer, he didn't kill people because they were bad, he killed people because he liked and had the urge to kill people. Him having a code was all harrys doing and a way to fool himself into thinking the feelings he has when he kills people are a form of justice.....etc.
    This is my problem with some of your guy's rationales. You are expecting the entire series to be about some bloodthirsty sociopathic killer, when in reality it's not and when your aspirations about the show are divergent from what actually happens, you all rage.

    The writers had a different intention of the show; you must understand at least that much. It's about the progression of life and emotions, etc. of a serial killer and if you wanted to watch "cold, calculated" murders all the time, then stop watching (which I suspect most of you will do, but I guess I couldn't care).
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  14. Post #2894
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    January 2008
    12,050 Posts
    no, the real problem is that the writers are just plain bad at writing. they can not make an interesting, realistic story with interesting characters.
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  15. Post #2895
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    September 2006
    5,675 Posts
    They need to develop the baddies better and stop making dexter over-come obstacles without effort and consequence, it's dull.
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  16. Post #2896
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    July 2007
    7,701 Posts
    This is my problem with some of your guy's rationales. You are expecting the entire series to be about some bloodthirsty sociopathic killer, when in reality it's not and when your aspirations about the show are divergent from what actually happens, you all rage.

    The writers had a different intention of the show; you must understand at least that much. It's about the progression of life and emotions, etc. of a serial killer and if you wanted to watch "cold, calculated" murders all the time, then stop watching (which I suspect most of you will do, but I guess I couldn't care).
    if they actually did the progression of life and emotions well I wouldn't be complaining, but they don't do it well. they're just making Dexter dumber though, which is a problem with the writers since you can introduce emotions without making the character retarded.

    season 2 did this well with Dexter feeling primal human emotions by using both Lila & Rita as a catalyst for him feeling them and progressing it over the season but it's not been done well at all other than that because his emotional development is all over the place, they can't decide if they want him to be that psychopath or a family man or a man of justice or a sociopath or someone who can love or someone who thinks humans are stupid.

    but how they show Dexters emotions is basically:

    "Wow, Dexter is totally emotional. Look how he banged that hot gas attendant!"
    "Wow, Dexter is totally emotional. Look how he got angry and killed that guy in pure rage! We'll forget about that rage in the next episode though so don't worry!"
    "Damn, Dexters really progressed emotionally. He seems to love his wife! Oh.. she got killed. Gonna forget about her after a few episodes!"
    "Oh cool, Dexter might be understanding faith. Oh, Brother Sam got killed and now the writers seems to have forgotten about the whole faith motif."
    "Dexter is so unhinged!! Look at him fire that gun randomly, doesn't that show he's unhinged??"

    they have literally no subtlety in regards to his emotional state and I think one of the problems is that the writers DO think they're being subtle and clever, in season 1 & 2 they could actually show his emotions in a way that makes sense (the bloodbath at the motel springs to mind, shows vunerability in Dexter for the first time), his emotional reactions/outbursts were built up and understandable instead of coming out of nowhere

    U have stopped watching this show by the way because I liked it a lot and it could have been amazing but it's just bad now, after season 2 it was still entertaining to watch both in terms of drama (not that often) and because it's pretty funny since there's always been an elemant of cheesy humor in the show. Unfortunately the last 2 seasons have actually been insulting to the viewer because of the writing and now it clear they're not actually being cheesy/silly on purpose a lot of the time, plus the drama between characters and the reasoning for their actions is embarrassing.
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  17. Post #2897
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    January 2006
    3,081 Posts
    Although I agree that the show isn't what it used to be, I don't mind Dexter not being as smart etc as he used to be. I think it's showing him change, he used to have no feelings, now he's a father and he wants his son to live a good life unlike him, so he's changing, he isn't as smart as he used to be because he's slowly moving away from the killing I think.
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  18. Post #2898
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    Frisk's Avatar
    January 2006
    5,161 Posts
    Although I agree that the show isn't what it used to be, I don't mind Dexter not being as smart etc as he used to be. I think it's showing him change, he used to have no feelings, now he's a father and he wants his son to live a good life unlike him, so he's changing, he isn't as smart as he used to be because he's slowly moving away from the killing I think.
    You don't mind that they're making him dumber?
    Wow.
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  19. Post #2899
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    Cpn Crunch21's Avatar
    November 2009
    6,591 Posts
    Although I agree that the show isn't what it used to be, I don't mind Dexter not being as smart etc as he used to be. I think it's showing him change, he used to have no feelings, now he's a father and he wants his son to live a good life unlike him, so he's changing, he isn't as smart as he used to be because he's slowly moving away from the killing I think.
    uh, what? Dexter hardly spends anytime with his son, he clearly chooses killing over spending time with Harrison. Its almost like this season having a son has no repercussions since the babysitter is available all the time; its not even a challenge for him to go out there and kill. Sure there are a few scenes where Dexter was "concerned" (im putting that lightly) for Harrison, but they went completely nowhere (Dexter being concerned about the school, and teaching Harrison something to believe in). I wouldnt say Dexter is moving away from killing at all, you saw the obsessiveness when he went after Travis, couldnt just call the cops (then again since when does he do that).

    Dexter has only become dumber, and for almost no reason at all. The writers attempt to bring in 'feelings and emotions' but they fail horrendously. I feel like they try every emotion in the book the season, with absolutely no progression. At least the beginning of season 5 you had dexter experience rage after losing rita, and eventually progress through the stages of grief. This season was just one forgetful episode after the other. Dexter's angry, now hes sad, now hes vengeful, now hes reckless, blah blah blah. Just bad.
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  20. Post #2900
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    July 2009
    1,016 Posts

    i also loved season 1 because dexter made me feel uncomfortable (in a good way, not in a cringe-y incest-y bad writing way)

    Dexter was a cold, calculated, sociopathic serial killer, he didn't kill people because they were bad, he killed people because he liked and had the urge to kill people. Him having a code was all harrys doing and a way to fool himself into thinking the feelings he has when he kills people are a form of justice. A big part of why the miami police department seem to be so shitty at what they do is because Dexter withheld a lot of information on the people he killed. oh.. and the fact that he keeps trophies of the people he kills, i don't think a person killing purely for justice would do that. you weren't supposed to feel that he was 100% right doing what he was doing

    but.. now he's just a nice sitcom style single dad who you're supposed to love and when he kills people it's like "go dexter!! this 30 second outburst from this character shows that they need to be killed!!", there's no stalking or planning or showing his need to kill. he's just a guy who kills people on the spur of the moment because they're basically shouting "I'M A BAD PERSON, KILL ME!!" in his face.
    i agree with this alot.

    one thing i have to ask is, why is nebraska considered so bad.
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  21. Post #2901
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    Cpn Crunch21's Avatar
    November 2009
    6,591 Posts
    i agree with this alot.

    one thing i have to ask is, why is nebraska considered so bad.
    it went nowhere. Plus the fact that Dexter was able to skip town for 5 days and have no consequences was stupid and lazy.
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  22. Post #2902
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    December 2008
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    it went nowhere. Plus the fact that Dexter was able to skip town for 5 days and have no consequences was stupid and lazy.
    I'm still reminding that it is entirely possible for the writers to bring the consequences for the next season
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  23. Post #2903
    DrPompo's Avatar
    July 2009
    1,016 Posts
    it went nowhere. Plus the fact that Dexter was able to skip town for 5 days and have no consequences was stupid and lazy.
    i get the skipping town for five days part but as far as if it went nowhere, although on the main plot it did actually went nowhere, it acomplished two things. firstly it made dexter go bad and it connected the light/dark thing the season had and it reminded dexter why he doesnt go full dark (which is not to say that its still stupid that dexter now cares for the people he kills, but thats the writers fault and this episode goes according to that idea). and secondly, it gives stupid viewers some entertainment by saying wowow its brian and now dexter is bad and brian lolol.

    also, cinematographically speaking, i enjoyed a lot of scenes
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  24. Post #2904
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    February 2007
    13,220 Posts
    I don't think anyone is talking about Dexter being bad "cinematographically", only in terms of story and character development.
    I still enjoy watching Dexter, but I do think it has been dumbed down a lot.

    I really miss back when he was a cold-blooded killer who has issues feeling emotions and the only reason he could function in society was because he was following a strict code. This resembles a lot more how some psychopathic people work, they don't feel sympathy and they don't have a grasp of right and wrong not directly related to their own benefit, so they create their own moral codes to fit in among normal people and avoid being detected as a psychopath. Dexter being emotional and having a sense of right and wrong not just based on his code to ensure his survival does not fit well with being able to kill people in cold blood, being a serial killer is not common among people who are not psychopaths.
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  25. Post #2905
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    October 2010
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    The reason I'm going to stop watching is because it has lost the reasons why I watched/liked this show. I liked it because of the clever writing, the creative solutions to complex problems and obstacles, and the great character development of everyone involved. I feel like thats all gone, people have become 1 dimensional, Dexter just waltzes his way around people, and dialogue seems awkward and simplified at times (when it comes to Dexter's excuses, totally half assed). Im not really sure what other people see in the show anymore, but my reasons for watching are all gone and I just dont want to watch anymore.
    Some of that's definitely true but bear in mind it's been 6 seasons now.. a lot of development and shit which has led the series to this.

    But anyway I can still see similarities from Season 1 to Season 6. It's still better than most series too, but yeah the characters are becoming something else, like Masuka videogame shit and Quinn being a drunk cop despite being so young etc. Some bullshit stuff that's all.

    I don't know, it's still pretty awesome. Gotta see how the next season starts, but like it how Deb caught Dex doing his thing.
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  26. Post #2906
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    January 2008
    2,002 Posts
    The end of season 7 was awesome. That's all I have to say right now.
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    Frisk's Avatar
    January 2006
    5,161 Posts
    The end of season 7 was awesome. That's all I have to say right now.
    Are you from the future?
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  28. Post #2908
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    April 2009
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    I didn't see that coming at the end of season 7.
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  29. Post #2909
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    December 2008
    5,887 Posts
    The end of season 7 was awesome. That's all I have to say right now.
    holy shit I can't wait
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  30. Post #2910
    You had me at meat tornado.
    Cl0cK's Avatar
    June 2008
    5,588 Posts
    Debra finds out she's pregnant from Dexter, shit don't tell anyone!!!
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  31. Post #2911
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    May 2007
    728 Posts
    Just watched the season 4 finale.


    Fucked me up pretty badly.
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  32. Post #2912
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    January 2008
    12,050 Posts
    Just stop there.
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  33. Post #2913
    Just saw the season finale, holy shit that was awesome. And to be honest, season 6 wasn't really THAT bad. It's far better than the last season.
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  34. Post #2914
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    April 2010
    508 Posts
    just sitting here with my sad face on. cant believe they went forward with the deb-dexter relationship storyline.

    it's probably michael c hall convincing them to write scenes where he has to kiss jennifer carpenter to try and get the chemistry and spark back from their failed marriage haha. ruin a show for personal gain perhaps :P
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  35. Post #2915
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    January 2012
    308 Posts
    How many dexter seasons are they still going to make?
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  36. Post #2916
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    December 2008
    11,192 Posts
    2 more atm, could be even more. Unless people stop watching it in the hopes that it'll get better and it just gets cancelled.
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  37. Post #2917
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    Cpn Crunch21's Avatar
    November 2009
    6,591 Posts
    2 more atm, could be even more. Unless people stop watching it in the hopes that it'll get better and it just gets cancelled.
    judging by the facebook page i dont think its gonna happen. So many people thought season 6 was the "bestest season evarrrr". So yeah its gonna be a slow death of a tv show.
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  38. Post #2918
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    October 2008
    642 Posts
    That fucking season finale. End on more of a cliffhanger.
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  39. Post #2919
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    January 2008
    2,002 Posts
    Are you from the future?
    holy shit i was so high i meant season 6.
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  40. Post #2920
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    August 2010
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    holy shit i was so high i meant season 6.
    "Guys 6 and 7 are right next to each other and I accidentally hit the wrong one I am so baked"

    IMO Seasons 5 and 6 weren't bad but they were pretty boring. 1-4 had me on the edge of my seat and I would want to watch the entire seasons in 1 day. 5 and 6 simply didn't do it for me. Too many loose ends.
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