1. Post #241
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    whereas I have been playing bass for just over a month

    yeah so easy right now

  2. Post #242
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    whereas I have been playing bass for just over a month

    yeah so easy right now
    Oh, right. I'm getting a bass soon so I will offer insight then. Either way, good luck!

  3. Post #243
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    whereas I have been playing bass for just over a month

    yeah so easy right now
    Don't worry, I've had a bass since December and I still can't play shit.

  4. Post #244
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    that's not encouraging
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  5. Post #245
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    To be fair, I haven't practiced much... I tried the 3 2 1 0 3 2 1 0 thing for For Whom the Bell Tolls and got it kinda alright. It intro wasn't too hard either.

    Edited:

    But, that doesn't mean I can play the song though.

  6. Post #246
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    That's odd, did he change guitars for the song then? I've only ever seen him play this one:

    Along with one of his electric guitars for the unforgiven.
    I have no idea, yeah, i always see that one come out on a stand so he can keep his other guitar on aswell. Maybe it was just a one off? It's literally the only song on the setlist that had a history of having two guitars, still not sure though.

    To be fair, I haven't practiced much... I tried the 3 2 1 0 3 2 1 0 thing for For Whom the Bell Tolls and got it kinda alright. It intro wasn't too hard either.

    But, that doesn't mean I can play the song though.
    I've been playing Guitar for little over 8 months (and i have a bass aswell) it really is just practice. I go really disheartened when i couldn't play my favourite songs straight away, but keep at it.

  7. Post #247
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    I, personally, not being the guy above you, have been playing a little over a year and I can get down near every Metallica riff/verse rather easily. Solos are rather difficult though.
    Except for a couple, I agree.

    Blackened is still a pain in the ass, and Dyer's Eve is fucking annoying as hell to follow (for me, anyway), but most Metallica songs are pretty simple to get the rhythm to.

  8. Post #248
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    whereas I have been playing bass for just over a month

    yeah so easy right now
    how long have you been practicing each day?

    when i started i did jack shit so after a year of doing jack shit i still sucked. then i started practicing 1-2 hours a day

    so instead of playing games, practice first. practice for even 30 minutes each day, after you do something practice. check facepunch for an hour, then go practice. play some games then practice for another half an hour. practicing during the day multiple times wont get you bored if you play for an hour straight. there is no doubt that i know more songs than you and different skills, so i can keep my self entertained for hours.

    or do the 21 day challenge. pick a song you want to learn. practice it for 21 days straight (no other songs) and on day 22 you should be able to play it good. depends on how much effort and practice you put into it though.

    also do you use your fingers or a pick?

  9. Post #249
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    Pick. And I almost got (yes I know this is the Metallica thread but it's what I've learned) Sweating Bullets down in a few hours. Just a few parts to do and I've got it down.

  10. Post #250
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    Try using your fingers as well as IMO you get a better sound.

    And some songs like Orion you need to hit the G and A string at the same time and you can't do that with a pick.

  11. Post #251
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    Except for a couple, I agree.

    Blackened is still a pain in the ass, and Dyer's Eve is fucking annoying as hell to follow (for me, anyway), but most Metallica songs are pretty simple to get the rhythm to.
    Near every song. Just play things through at half speed first.

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    Try using your fingers as well as IMO you get a better sound.

    And some songs like Orion you need to hit the G and A string at the same time and you can't do that with a pick.
    If you hold the pick between your thumb and index finger you can hit the other string with your middle finger at the same time.

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    The only song i just can't get is Dyers Eve atm, i can play each part, but putting it together and following the syncopations and the timing changes is just impossible without me sitting for a few solid hours and getting it down.

    Also...

    I found some pretty excellent remixes of some St. Anger tracks.

    Check this youtube channel, SKOM has been removed thanks to WMG but have a listen. If anyone wants downloads PM me and i'll link you.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/atrayuMasterHero

  14. Post #254
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    Try using your fingers as well as IMO you get a better sound.

    And some songs like Orion you need to hit the G and A string at the same time and you can't do that with a pick.
    This whole post is complete bull shit

    Pick vs fingers all comes down to what you like more
    there is no such thing as a better sound
    or easier play style
    it is all preference
    and hit the g and a string at the same time?
    where the fuck is that in Orion?

    And actually playing multiple strings can be easier with a pick because you strum. whereas with your fingers, you have to pluck

  15. Post #255
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    This whole post is complete bull shit

    Pick vs fingers all comes down to what you like more
    there is no such thing as a better sound
    or easier play style
    it is all preference
    and hit the g and a string at the same time?
    where the fuck is that in Orion?

    And actually playing multiple strings can be easier with a pick because you strum. whereas with your fingers, you have to pluck
    Right here, second note on bass.

  16. Post #256
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    Oh, the intro. You don't even have to play it that way...
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  17. Post #257
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    You could still use your finger on the 5th fret to mute the D string though.

  18. Post #258
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    Cliff played with his fingers so you'd want to use fingers anyway.

  19. Post #259
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    Cliff played with his fingers so you'd want to use fingers anyway.
    It doesn't matter if the original bassist used a pick or their fingers, play it the way that you find most comfortable.

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    Well if you want to sound like Cliff you need to play with your fingers. Although I would agree with your point in most cases (that is you should play how you feel comfortable), in this case picking and fingers sound completely different, and you should use the technique that allows you to sound how you want to sound.

  21. Post #261
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    Well if you want to sound like Cliff you need to play with your fingers. Although I would agree with your point in most cases (that is you should play how you feel comfortable), in this case picking and fingers sound completely different, and you should use the technique that allows you to sound how you want to sound.
    That's fair, if you wanna emulate the original, do it how they do it. If you just want to play it, do it comfortably.

  22. Post #262
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    Either way you should get comfortable with fingers, I honestly think you can do that much more with them. Some songs do call for a pick though.

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    I swear my friend wants me to be the next Cliff Burton, only with less bus crash.

    Edited:

    I think he is gonna give me his old distortion pedal, which is cool though

  24. Post #264
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    Either way you should get comfortable with fingers, I honestly think you can do that much more with them. Some songs do call for a pick though.
    I.e. My Friend of Misery, which is fucking amazing and literally one of the few songs Newstead ever got credited for.

    Alot of Newstead's playing was with a pick and he emulated some earlier cliff songs well, obviously if you want the tones to match you should aim to use the same picking style, but you can make it work regardless of whether you use a pick of your fingers.

    Also, the St Anger remixes are here : http://www.youtube.com/user/atrayuMasterHero

    Like i said if you want to download them PM me.

    Remixes and Remasters

    Amazing little solo in Unnamed Feeling... really sounds amazing.
    St Anger
    [url]
    Sweet Amber

    Awesome solo at the beginning of Sweet Amber aswell. Awesomeness.

    More at the youtube channel.

  25. Post #265
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    I swear my friend wants me to be the next Cliff Burton, only with less bus crash.
    Tell him to want in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first...

  26. Post #266
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    Good news, AJFA is growing a lot on me :D

  27. Post #267
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    So it should, AJFA is awesome.

  28. Post #268
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    Ride the Lightning > everything else metallica has done
    don't argue with me
    it's fact
    not opinion
    fact.
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    Ride the Lightning > everything else metallica has done
    don't argue with me
    it's fact
    not opinion
    fact.
    Even though Ride the Lightning is my favourite Metallica album, I still have to say that it's opinion, not fact. It's all down to personal preference.
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  30. Post #270
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    Even though Ride the Lightning is my favourite Metallica album, I still have to say that it's opinion, not fact. It's all down to personal preference.
    it's fact
    not opinion


    this is not open to discussion.
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    I know that youtube comments should never be taken seriously, but there's one on a video of St Anger (the song) played live in the studio that says that St Anger (the album) has great songs on it, but is a shitty album... Doesn't having great songs make it a great album?

  32. Post #272
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    it's fact
    not opinion


    this is not open to discussion.
    excatly lol Ride The Lighting FTW
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    I know that youtube comments should never be taken seriously, but there's one on a video of St Anger (the song) played live in the studio that says that St Anger (the album) has great songs on it, but is a shitty album... Doesn't having great songs make it a great album?
    no, if the WHOLE album is great then it's a great album. if it has great songs on it but the majority suck, it is a decent album.

  34. Post #274
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    it's fact
    not opinion


    this is not open to discussion.
    Kill 'Em All
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  35. Post #275
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    Kill 'Em All
    St. Anger, I'm right, you're wrong. END OF DISCUSSION
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  36. Post #276
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    Oh come on everybody knows Death Magnetic is their best album

  37. Post #277
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    Oh come on everybody knows Death Magnetic is their best album
    My preferences :

    MOP / RTL - Can't decide.
    KEA
    AJFA
    DM
    ANGER
    BLACK
    LOAD/RELOAD

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    I've said this numerous times, i like something on every album. Every album has moods you can listen to it in, i listen to Load and Reload when i'm chilling out, gaming i can listen to lots, and Justice/Anger when i'm mad at something or someone.
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  38. Post #278
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    AJFA
    RTL/KEA
    MOP
    Black Album
    ReLoad
    Load
    St. Anger
    DM

    I would technically say MOP is their best album, it's not my favourite though. I actually think Death Magnetic is by far their worst album, still has some awesome songs on it though.

  39. Post #279
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    I must say, St. Anger (the song) is intense, it's a fucking onslaught of sound! I love it!

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    Oh come on everybody knows Death Magnetic is their best album
    Death Magnetic is good though :saddowns:
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