1. Post #1
    Pload's Avatar
    June 2006
    55 Posts
    I've been trying to find a graphics card. After research I came to the conclusion that the Radeon HD 5850 would be the best card for the money I'd like to spend, which is around 300 dollars.

    I've come to this conclusion considering the comparison of GTX 280 and GTX 285 to the HD 5850.

    GTX 285 cards usually are 400 dollars from what I have seen, 100 dollars more than the HD 5850. For most games, the GTX 285 reports a lower or the same exact fps in comparison to the 5850.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...1685.html?prod[3249]=on&prod[3189]=on

    Now my problem lies in the reliability of the Radeon HD 5850. With further research I've found that people have experienced some issues with the cards.

    Grey Screen of Death
    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ATI...5870,9549.html
    Artifacting
    http://www.vgaforum.com/showthread.php?t=22210
    Other reported issues
    http://www.vgaforum.com/showthread.php?t=22037
    http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...&enterthread=y
    http://www.vgaforum.com/showthread.php?t=21884
    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...m/1398066.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v9irrsseGI

    And due to the card being similar to the 5870, I also fear the problems with that card.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KumO1cfwSh4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG5YMapme20
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDM0e-yZZdg
    http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1466677&page=2

    You can probably find more examples of other issues with the series elsewhere.


    My question is though, does anyone have any insight to these issues. Should I pick another card, if so what card? Are these issues rare enough to go ahead and get the card anyway? I'm pretty lost on what to do because this is my first build and I really want to avoid running into problems, please help.

    Thanks for your time.


    Card:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102857
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  2. Post #2
    anikilol's Avatar
    August 2009
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    You're being WAYYYYYYY to paranoid imo.
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  3. Post #3
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    that1dude24's Avatar
    June 2007
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    You're being WAYYYYYYY to paranoid imo.
    Yeah.

    The 5850 has it's problems, but so does every other card on the planet. Most of those are probably caused by overheating, not being seated properly, driver bugs, faulty cards, etc. Most of which can be fixed, or the card can be returned to where you bought it from.
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  4. Post #4
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    November 2006
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    Newegg has a really good return policy I've heard. I never had to use it since I have yet to have a part I bought be broken, but if what I've heard is true, if you have issues you can just return it.

  5. Post #5
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    that1dude24's Avatar
    June 2007
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    Newegg has a really good return policy I've heard. I never had to use it since I have yet to have a part I bought be broken, but if what I've heard is true, if you have issues you can just return it.
    They do charge you for shipping, unfortunately.

  6. Post #6
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    MR-X's Avatar
    January 2005
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    Just buy an extended warranty and you'll be covered. Worries solved.

  7. Post #7
    rampageturke's Avatar
    December 2009
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    or buy xfx get double life time

  8. Post #8
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    Swebonny's Avatar
    August 2006
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    XFX have good warranties donīt+ they?

    Edited:

    damn beaten

  9. Post #9
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    ClaBrendon's Avatar
    July 2009
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    or buy xfx get double life time
    I always go XFX because of this.

    And their customer service.

  10. Post #10
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    ferrus's Avatar
    May 2007
    2,324 Posts
    You do indirectly pay for the XFX warranty, though. My view is this: What person that buys high end GPUs is going to keep one for more than a couple of years? Most brands offer a warranty around 3 years, which is all you really need.

  11. Post #11
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    surfur's Avatar
    March 2007
    2,074 Posts
    I've had the SAPPHIRE HD5850 for about 3 months now. I haven't had anything bad happen what so ever, everything still runs nicely...i think you're just a bit paranoids, some cards are bad but most are good. just hope you have good luck

  12. Post #12
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    Evilan's Avatar
    February 2009
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    I've had the SAPPHIRE HD5850 for about 3 months now. I haven't had anything bad happen what so ever, everything still runs nicely...i think you're just a bit paranoids, some cards are bad but most are good. just hope you have good luck
    Exactly this. No problems to report about this card. And most the problems you stated are easily fixed with driver updates. So, just buy the card. You won't regret it and if it doesn't work there are RMAs available to you.

  13. Post #13
    Blackcomb's Avatar
    March 2010
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    you might wanna wait for the gtx 470 to be released
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  14. Post #14
    Pload's Avatar
    June 2006
    55 Posts
    you might wanna wait for the gtx 470 to be released
    I'll be looking at it, but I fear that the GTX 470 may retail for four hundred dollars despite the expected three hundred fifty tag reported on.

    I've had the SAPPHIRE HD5850 for about 3 months now. I haven't had anything bad happen what so ever, everything still runs nicely...i think you're just a bit paranoids, some cards are bad but most are good. just hope you have good luck
    Exactly this. No problems to report about this card.
    What specifications are both of your computers? Also you haven't experienced any problems with older games like Team Fortress 2?


    Thanks for all the replies.

  15. Post #15
    Blackcomb's Avatar
    March 2010
    321 Posts
    I'll be looking at it, but I fear that the GTX 470 may retail for four hundred dollars despite the expected three hundred fifty tag reported on.





    What specifications are both of your computers? Also you haven't experienced any problems with older games like Team Fortress 2?


    Thanks for all the replies.
    Cards are cheaper than the expected price, always.
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  16. Post #16
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    ghostofme's Avatar
    January 2009
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    I always go XFX because of this.

    And their customer service.
    I sure hope it's good.

    I have to get my 4670 replaced.

  17. Post #17
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    FHamster's Avatar
    January 2008
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    Cards are cheaper than the expected price, always.
    5850 was expected to market at 270
    5870 was expected to market at 360

  18. Post #18
    mrbloog's Avatar
    January 2010
    401 Posts
    5850 was expected to market at 270
    5870 was expected to market at 360
    That's only because they thought there was going to be another card on the market by Nvidia.

  19. Post #19
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    February 2009
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    What specifications are both of your computers? Also you haven't experienced any problems with older games like Team Fortress 2?


    Thanks for all the replies.
    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198000077329
    Played 8 hours yesterday. Also, my specs are listed on my page.

  20. Post #20
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    alphaspida's Avatar
    April 2008
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    You can type anything into youtube/google and it will show at least one or more problems.

    Edited:

    Just get a fucking 5850 unless you want to buy the $100 more 285 for the same/less frame rate.


    /solved
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  21. Post #21
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    Dennab
    November 2007
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    I have a Sapphire 5870 and I constantly get the GSOD.
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  22. Post #22
    rampageturke's Avatar
    December 2009
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    well RMA it then

  23. Post #23
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    January 2009
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    That's only because they thought there was going to be another card on the market by Nvidia.
    Nvidia really needs to step up their game.

    ATI is just finishing releasing the 5xxx series and Nvidia is just releasing their cards that compete with that series.

  24. Post #24
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    Yumyumbublegum's Avatar
    January 2009
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    I have a Sapphire 5870 and I constantly get the GSOD.
    my first 5870 kept artifacting, I rma'd it and now everything is running smoothly

  25. Post #25
    -SC-Lakitu's Avatar
    April 2007
    113 Posts
    I've had no problems whatsoever with my 5850. Had it for about 2 1/2 months now. Overclocked to 900MhZ/1150MhZ core/mem as well, they run pretty cool.

    I'd say go for the 5850. Just look up return policies and warranties from wherever you buy from in case you ever have problems.

  26. Post #26
    ShitBalls's Avatar
    January 2009
    891 Posts
    Mine runs fine and can overclock like a bitch.
    1000MhZ core and 1100MhZ Memory.
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    Blackcomb's Avatar
    March 2010
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    Mine runs fine and can overclock like a bitch.
    1000MhZ core and 1100MhZ Memory.
    somehow i really doubt you got that high on core and that low on memory
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  28. Post #28
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    June 2008
    7,121 Posts
    Fuck Sapphire, I'll never buy another product from them again. I had to RMA a card twice, both had artifacting immediately after installing. Even formatted for the second. I'm out $20 for shipping for returns. NEVER BUY FROM THEM. I can't reiterate just how pissed I am, words can't say. :bang:
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  29. Post #29
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    Razzie's Avatar
    August 2007
    591 Posts
    I have the Diamond 5850. When I first got it I got the GSOD and the blue bars, but after Catalyst 10.2 almost EVERY problem I've had with this card is gone. The only problem left is that I don't have another to Crossfire.

  30. Post #30
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    reapaninja's Avatar
    November 2008
    8,118 Posts
    Fuck Sapphire, I'll never buy another product from them again. I had to RMA a card twice, both had artifacting immediately after installing. Even formatted for the second. I'm out $20 for shipping for returns. NEVER BUY FROM THEM. I can't reiterate just how pissed I am, words can't say. :bang:
    baww you were unlucky twice

    no manufacturer is perfect, that's why we have RMA

  31. Post #31
    derlicious's Avatar
    December 2009
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    Go with HIS if you want neato cooling and XFX if you are a paranoid dude

    Sapphire is kinda all round
    Don't go for shit like Sparkle or Diamond etc.. Powercolor are cheap and DECENT but stick with HIS and XFX IIWU

  32. Post #32
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    Biotoxsin's Avatar
    June 2008
    7,121 Posts
    I had heard good things about sapphire, that's why I went with them originally. I'd rather Spend another 10 on an XFX card for the warrenty now.

  33. Post #33
    Steel Geography's Avatar
    March 2010
    176 Posts
    This sounds worrying, I'm about to buy a 5850, not sure if from Sapphire though

  34. Post #34
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    Razzie's Avatar
    August 2007
    591 Posts
    Go with HIS if you want neato cooling and XFX if you are a paranoid dude

    Sapphire is kinda all round
    Don't go for shit like Sparkle or Diamond etc.. Powercolor are cheap and DECENT but stick with HIS and XFX IIWU
    Diamond isn't shit...

  35. Post #35
    rampageturke's Avatar
    December 2009
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    i dont know about sparkle, but diamond deffinetly not

  36. Post #36
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    January 2009
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    Go with HIS if you want neato cooling and XFX if you are a paranoid dude

    Sapphire is kinda all round
    Don't go for shit like Sparkle or Diamond etc.. Powercolor are cheap and DECENT but stick with HIS and XFX IIWU
    Diamond isn't so bad, but they're are definitely better brands. But if Diamond is the only brand in stock it's still worth it.
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  37. Post #37
    Pload's Avatar
    June 2006
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    Four people in this topic says they haven't had any issues and another four people replied saying they've had issues.

    I understand that no graphics card is perfect, and I will never find a card that has a 0 percent failure rate. However, going by this topic alone (I know the flaws in that), is it too much to ask for a manufacturer to produce a card that has less than 50%?

    I'm going to need to see how the GTX 400 series runs before purchasing a 5850. Once again, thanks for your advice, time, information, and replies.

  38. Post #38
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    February 2009
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    Four people in this topic says they haven't had any issues and another four people replied saying they've had issues.

    I understand that no graphics card is perfect, and I will never find a card that has a 0 percent failure rate. However, going by this topic alone (I know the flaws in that), is it too much to ask for a manufacturer to produce a card that has less than 50%?

    I'm going to need to see how the GTX 400 series runs before purchasing a 5850. Once again, thanks for your advice, time, information, and replies.
    Just because we are split doesn't mean that the majority of people are getting bad cards. You only have a sample size of 8 to work with. In this case I would say to look at the newegg ratings/other site ratings because most of those people only rate down when they get a bad card. And over 90% of reviewers on Newegg had positive things to say about the card.

  39. Post #39
    Notprobydoby's Avatar
    January 2010
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    People that are happy with this card are just too busy playing Just Cause 2 to post about it in this thread.

  40. Post #40
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    kevin32891's Avatar
    February 2006
    274 Posts
    I want to get 5850 from XFX, but it seems they're out of stock on newegg.