1. Post #1161
    aliendrone123's Avatar
    June 2010
    3,622 Posts
    Alrighty then. Ill pick up the expansions as soon as I can!

  2. Post #1162
    Zephyrs's Avatar
    July 2010
    4,102 Posts
    Oh yeah, I just need to do that last quest thing. I supposed I could do that

    Also, I only have 3 or so missions left for guardian
    Mallyx takes 20 minutes with pugs.

    Probably yes. What with GW2's release coming closer, there's gonna be a good amount of people who go 'hey, let's install the original and brush up a bit'.
    I disagree. Most of the people have already 'brushed up' with the release of the HoM calculator. People have gotten their HoMs to whatever level, and quit again. See this thread for several examples. Those who are left are by and large all you will ever get barring an update to the reward calculations (which I will add, would piss a great many people off).

    To reiterate what has been said before. You won't find people besides those doing the zaishen dailies or speed clears in any abundance. If you want to do stuff, you need to get a solid hero team in order and roll with it.

    Furthermore, heroes are quite frankly better than your typical pug when even moderately well equipped. They have their problems, but they are at least consistently stupid, making them predictable, and they never get impatient.

  3. Post #1163
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    April 2011
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    I have 44, and just need to get Guardian of Cantha to get final goal of 45.
    Haven't been able to bring myself to do it
    Oh believe me, Guardian of Cantha is one of the easier titles.

    By the way, Zephyrs, how do you do DoA runs? Everytime I try with my hero team that works for almost everything, I get party wiped on NM. Any recommendations? I use 3 discord necros, 2 mesmers that run panic and ineptitude, and 2 rits who have SoS and Ghostly Might.

  4. Post #1164
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    August 2007
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    Oh believe me, Guardian of Cantha is one of the easier titles.

    By the way, Zephyrs, how do you do DoA runs? Everytime I try with my hero team that works for almost everything, I get party wiped on NM. Any recommendations? I use 3 discord necros, 2 mesmers that run panic and ineptitude, and 2 rits who have SoS and Ghostly Might.
    Discord is highly, highly overrated, IMO. Especially if you're trying to do things like DoA. I can't remember my exact team, but I believe it included these.
    Myself as a Warrior, probably Hundred Blades or Dslash SY! spammer
    Panic Me
    Inep Me
    Either N/Rt healer or Mo
    SoS Rt
    ST Shelter Rt

    I'll dig through my builds later and see if I can find my full build.

    I love Shelter.

  5. Post #1165
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    April 2011
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    Discord is highly, highly overrated, IMO. Especially if you're trying to do things like DoA. I can't remember my exact team, but I believe it included these.
    Myself as a Warrior, probably Hundred Blades or Dslash SY! spammer
    Panic Me
    Inep Me
    Either N/Rt healer or Mo
    SoS Rt
    ST Shelter Rt

    I'll dig through my builds later and see if I can find my full build.

    I love Shelter.
    I know that Discord is overrated, but I use it nonetheless. It's a great spiking build and one I've used on my heroes for about 2 years now.

  6. Post #1166
    Zephyrs's Avatar
    July 2010
    4,102 Posts
    Shelter is overkill in all but a few areas of the game to be honest. Don't get me wrong, a ST rit is fantastic, but a lot of the time it's simply ludicrous amounts of overkill that could be used to bring more damage and kill things faster.

    Discord is pretty worthless. It's single target, and completely lacks shutdown effects. This is on top of the clunky mechanics that are required for it to do anything. Mesmers are AoE, and you don't need the ludicrous amounts of healing discord does because mesmers provide shutdown through effects like mistrust. Panic is powerful, but often overrated. Like shelter, a lot of the time you can get away with simply running even more raw damage.

    But what do you do if you chain aggro 5 groups accidentally, you might ask. I don't know. Perhaps you could just go fucking kill them? Dead enemies are not a threat after all. A perfectly viable solution to taking damage is to just kill things faster instead of disabling them. Brute force fixes a lot of problems.


    To answer your question about DoA: It's full parties of players running specific bars on specific professions. Two permaform tanks ball stuff up and and trigger objectives. The backline consists of an emo bonder and a seeder with UA. A team of mesmers (occasionaly we bring one necro) spikes groups down in the span of 3-5 seconds. Keep in mind that we are running spike bars. Everything is focused around dealing enormous burst damage or utility brought for specific tasks throughout the run. If a group takes more than 4 or 5 seconds to kill, they start to change targets and that can easily wipe a team since a typical spike involves killing 25-60 enemies in a single volley.
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  7. Post #1167
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    July 2010
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    Well nick's dialogue certainly has a morbid tone to it this week.

    Nick posted:
    It seems my travels have brought me to this haunted place once again. This time is different though. I've beheld many great sights, from Lyssa's ice cave to Zu Heltzer Cathedral, and along the way, I've received the help of many kind strangers. The glory of this world puts my personal suffering into perspective. To be honest, as the pain and nightmares fade, it's easier to look into the past, which is good. There are so many memories worth looking back on. Even after all these years, Mary rests as firmly in my heart as she did before the Charr destroyed my home.

    I carry her with me wherever I go, and my travels are far from over. I haven't found a new home, but I have found a measure of happiness. So, I'll keep wandering with this woolly fellow by my side. Before we depart, however, I should leave a remembrance, and only one gift seems fitting. You don't happen to have 3 Red Iris Flowers for me to leave behind, do you?
    It remains to be seen how he is going to go about visiting locations. This dialogue is different than the first one, though he is in an identical position.

  8. Post #1168
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    April 2010
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    Well nick's dialogue certainly has a morbid tone to it this week.



    It remains to be seen how he is going to go about visiting locations. This dialogue is different than the first one, though he is in an identical position.
    Watch him go rogue and turn in to a secret boss at the end of WoC, finally having snapped and wanting to murder all living beings.

  9. Post #1169
    Zephyrs's Avatar
    July 2010
    4,102 Posts
    Joking aside, that would make next to zero sense, especially considering how much of a his story arc is completely secondary to everything in the game, as well as the fact that he shows up for the wedding and other such nonsense.

    In order to maintain any semblance of continuity you would have to mandate completion of WiK before finishing WoC, which would piss more than a few people off.

  10. Post #1170
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    Miskav's Avatar
    April 2010
    4,107 Posts
    Joking aside, that would make next to zero sense, especially considering how much of a his story arc is completely secondary to everything in the game, as well as the fact that he shows up for the wedding and other such nonsense.

    In order to maintain any semblance of continuity you would have to mandate completion of WiK before finishing WoC, which would piss more than a few people off.
    You can do EOTN before prophecies/factions/nightfall.

    Eotn is years later.

    Guildwars doesn't give jack-shit about continuity or chronological order.

  11. Post #1171
    Zephyrs's Avatar
    July 2010
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    Yes, but the quests practically never refer to each other in any way outside of the closing moments in EoTN. I don't even recall if the henchmen mention stuff from the past when you talk to them.

    Also I should clarify the pissing people off part before anyone takes that the wrong way since my initial statement is relatively ambiguous. Many people would be greatly pissed if you had to complete WiK before finishing WoC because a great deal of people despise WiK.

  12. Post #1172
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    April 2010
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    Yes, but the quests practically never refer to each other in any way outside of the closing moments in EoTN. I don't even recall if the henchmen mention stuff from the past when you talk to them.

    Also I should clarify the pissing people off part before anyone takes that the wrong way since my initial statement is relatively ambiguous. Many people would be greatly pissed if you had to complete WiK before finishing WoC because a great deal of people despise WiK.
    The henchmen in Eotn constantly mention the past, so do the heroes (livia, kahmu, xandra)

  13. Post #1173
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    April 2009
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    Yes, but the quests practically never refer to each other in any way outside of the closing moments in EoTN. I don't even recall if the henchmen mention stuff from the past when you talk to them.

    Also I should clarify the pissing people off part before anyone takes that the wrong way since my initial statement is relatively ambiguous. Many people would be greatly pissed if you had to complete WiK before finishing WoC because a great deal of people despise WiK.
    Each campaign has tons of references to other campaigns or areas that the campaigns take place in. EoTN probably has the most of any because of it being the final expansion.

  14. Post #1174
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    September 2006
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    Well nick's dialogue certainly has a morbid tone to it this week.



    It remains to be seen how he is going to go about visiting locations. This dialogue is different than the first one, though he is in an identical position.
    That gave me a sad
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  15. Post #1175
    Dennab
    December 2011
    38 Posts
    How long would it take for a new player to get GWAMM? Also, what is a good solo class to get said title?

  16. Post #1176
    Zephyrs's Avatar
    July 2010
    4,102 Posts
    You don't solo in this game.

    Your profession isn't important if you are working on titles. Any profession can be backed up by a strong hero setup and clear everything. Pick something you enjoy playing. Certain professions technically have benefits, but they aren't important enough to make or break anything if you enjoy a particular play style or set of skills.
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  17. Post #1177
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    January 2010
    864 Posts
    How long would it take for a new player to get GWAMM? Also, what is a good solo class to get said title?
    I'd advise against soloing, because that's just plain not as fun..
    I had trouble getting titles for years. I just can't get myself to grind up. They take quite a while.
    I don't have GWAMM, but I'd guess if you get really serious it would still cost tons of time and platinum.

    Probably months and months of continuous play. But again, I can't really know for sure.

  18. Post #1178
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    April 2010
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    Wintersday is upon us!

    Rejoice!
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  19. Post #1179
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    April 2011
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    Just opened my 6th b-day present. Got Ogden.

  20. Post #1180
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    April 2010
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    Just opened my 6th b-day present. Got Ogden.
    That's a short-lived celebration.
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  21. Post #1181
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    Oh look what I got for Christmas!

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  22. Post #1182
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    April 2010
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    Oh look what I got for Christmas!

    I bought the books a bit earlier, they were on sale, reading ghosts of ascalon at the moment.

  23. Post #1183
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    October 2009
    1,858 Posts
    When does Wintersday go until? Because as usual, I'm away for the holidays.

  24. Post #1184
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    April 2010
    4,107 Posts
    When does Wintersday go until? Because as usual, I'm away for the holidays.
    Sunday, January 1st, 2012, 12:01 am until Monday, January 2nd, 2012, 12:01 am: Finales every 3 hours.
    Monday, January 2nd, 2012, 20:00 End of the event.

  25. Post #1185
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    October 2007
    3,206 Posts
    Hey everybody I'm looking for people to do the campaigns; my brother deleted my characters a whiiile ago and now I'm not getting anything the hall of monuments other than pets. What easy achievements can be done for the HoM?

  26. Post #1186
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    April 2011
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    Hey everybody I'm looking for people to do the campaigns; my brother deleted my characters a whiiile ago and now I'm not getting anything the hall of monuments other than pets. What easy achievements can be done for the HoM?
    The campaign statues in Honor are easy, but then again, you need to beat the campaigns. When beating the campaigns, always go for the bonus as it'll save you time and get you the Protector title.

  27. Post #1187
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    October 2007
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    Yeah I'll re-do the whole campaign

    Only thing is I'm playing alone and I'm kind of stuck at the normally easy one where you have to activate the shrines to open the portal, the opponents always steal one shrine when we're about to win even though I place all my heroes to stop them, is there a trick to do it alone?

  28. Post #1188
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    October 2007
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    Yeah I'll re-do the whole campaign

    Only thing is I'm playing alone and I'm kind of stuck at the normally easy one where you have to activate the shrines to open the portal, the opponents always steal one shrine when we're about to win even though I place all my heroes to stop them, is there a trick to do it alone?
    Are you talking about Aurora Glade where you have to kill the henge guardian? If so what I did was put down all my heroes on the small pathway between two hills that all the white mantle run through. While I was able to do it without cripples, things like frost slows, crippling attacks, mesmer slows, etc. make it easier. You slow the runners, kill off the rest of the group, then finish off the runner. If the runner gets killed, it spawns the next group with another runner so you might get overwhelmed. After a bit the white mantle will run out of spawns, then just kill the demagogue and activate all the pedestals at your own leisure.
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  29. Post #1189
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    October 2007
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    Yes indeed! I did not know they would run out of spawns! Thanks

  30. Post #1190
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    April 2011
    2,404 Posts
    Farewell Wintersday! See you next year!

  31. Post #1191
    Cyan_Husky's Avatar
    August 2007
    1,068 Posts
    http://guildwars.com/gameplay/develo...l_balances.php

    Thoughts? In theory, I like the HM changes, but I haven't tried yet.(Skyrim...) I don't know Ele very well, so I'm not sure on all of that.

    The Glaive and SoS nerfs are interesting too.

  32. Post #1192
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    April 2010
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    Wow that update actually made me want to make an Elementalist on my secondary account and get legendary vanquisher with it, making new builds each time I do an area.

  33. Post #1193
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    Onirik's Avatar
    October 2007
    3,206 Posts
    it's great that they're still updating gw1

  34. Post #1194
    Zephyrs's Avatar
    July 2010
    4,102 Posts
    The changes nerf armor ignoring damage for general pve. lvl 26-28 mobs now end up with 20-30% more health than they used to. It doesn't really buff elemental damage. You do bigger numbers, but mobs have more health. It's a soft nerf to armor ignoring damage, but armor ignoring damage still dominates because of the utility effects you can bring.

    Part of the problem is that none of the core skills really got reworked. Searing Flames, Rodgort's Invocation, Savanah Heat, Liquid Flame, Deep Freeze, Meteor, just to name a few. All of these have been core skills in spike teams. None of them got touched. None of the reworked skills really fit in the niche that these skills do, and that is large amounts of AoE damage.

    For the elite areas like DoA, mobs have over a thousand health already. An extra 200 health is almost meaningless when you have skills that hit for 150. There are one or two spikes that become a little bit more difficult due to timing mechanics, but on the whole this only makes it a tiny bit more difficult for a 3 man spike team to carry some moron. A 4 man spike team is still preposterous amounts of overkill.

    The DWG nerfs will not break glaiveway, though they certainly reduce the power of it. Starburst is looking like a more interesting possibility for people who don't run trenchway tactics.


    PvP on the other hand, is going to be a bloodbath. Many of the skills that got reworked were left untouched for very good reasons. Stuff like ice prism essentially reads, remove target melee player from the game for half the match. Making skills like obsidian flame have half exhaustion encourages some scary spike teams. It's difficult to determine the effects this will have on unorganized stuff like RA, but the GvG and HA prospects are somewhat terrifying.
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  35. Post #1195
    Dennab
    December 2011
    38 Posts
    Just traded some shitty TF2 items for 200 plat, any suggestions on what I could buy to get the most points? I have no armors/weapons and I have only one white mini in my HoM. I'm quite new so I don't want to get scammed or make a cost inefficient purchase.

  36. Post #1196
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    April 2011
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    Just traded some shitty TF2 items for 200 plat, any suggestions on what I could buy to get the most points? I have no armors/weapons and I have only one white mini in my HoM. I'm quite new so I don't want to get scammed or make a cost inefficient purchase.
    Destroyer Weapon, will give you 2 points, and it's about 30-50k. Any elite armor, will give you 1 point. Buy hero armor with the rest of your cash and put a new set of armor on each of your heroes which should get you up 4 points without pets. The Animal Companion statue is easy and doesn't require any gold. Just make a PvP ranger and equip Charm Animal. Goto the Zaishen Menagerie and show Emryd the Tamer your level 20 Elder Wolf that comes with a PvP ranger. Next, go on your PvE character and head back to the Menagerie. Charm the level 20 wolf that you can get from Wynn now that you unlocked it from your PvP character. Take the wolf to "Fellowship" and dedicate it for an easy point.

  37. Post #1197
    Dennab
    December 2011
    38 Posts
    Can the Destroyer weapon be put in the HoM if its customized to someone else?

  38. Post #1198
    T1dal's Avatar
    April 2010
    1,278 Posts
    Can the Destroyer weapon be put in the HoM if its customized to someone else?
    Nope.

  39. Post #1199
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    September 2006
    2,061 Posts
    Just traded some shitty TF2 items for 200 plat, any suggestions on what I could buy to get the most points? I have no armors/weapons and I have only one white mini in my HoM. I'm quite new so I don't want to get scammed or make a cost inefficient purchase.
    It's a shame I don't have guild wars on steam, I have several TF2 items I wanna get rid of...

  40. Post #1200
    Zephyrs's Avatar
    July 2010
    4,102 Posts
    Guild wars on steam is just normal guild wars. It doesn't use any of the steam APIs. Any trade conducted that way is a two part trade, and subject to scams. It's also considered real money trading by Anet, so you'd better be damn careful who knows what you may or may not be doing. All it takes is one person who wants to be a dick, and you risk loosing anything you gained in game, as well as account suspension.

    Bottom line, don't be open about trading for things outside the game. Keep it as secretive as possible.
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